2 Games for Abby, 0 for Weber?...We Deserve Answers

[Kira 451]

After watching last night's train wreck between Montreal and Ottawa, and nothing being done to any of those guys, I call bat guano on Abby's punishment. And I'm being as polite as I dare to be.

[Kmahrle83 61]

In reference to non-suspensions of Malkin and Weber, I can't agree more, but I think the reason that Abby got two, other than two games being par for the course this playoff season for suspendable hits; is mainly because this ( being "blindsided hits" ) was an issue that the league has addressed and stated over and over again through disciplinary measures that they will not tolerate it. Believe me I'm just as pissed as the next guy about to new NHL tuning soft and that Abby's hit was pretty borderline and etc etc. Bottom line is you have to adapt, especially when it comes to "blindside" hits. IMO. I just think that this particular type of hit has been addressed for several years now and that is why Abby got suspended for it.

Also the Weber incident was such a joke non-call that it received national media attention, so you know that's just a total ball dropping by the league.

I don't recall which weber incident you guys are referring to. Could one of you please gimmie a video so I can see it again?

[Manny>Ozzie(by a long shot) 55]

I want to see #FireShanny trend on Twitter!!

[Rhah 195]

[Kmahrle83 61]

ohhh yeah, thanks. That was some pure bull pucky.

[Smite 399]

the most dangerous about that play just missed. It was the haymaker that missed Z's head before he turn buckled him.

Ask Bert what happens when you punch someone in the back of the head. I still laugh when I hear the Nashville organization try to defend what he did.

[kipwinger 8,494]

All y'all need to stop living in the past with demanding retribution/explanation/etc. for the Weber hit.

Yes, it was a bad non-call, non-suspension, Shannywithhisheadinhisass kind of situation.

...and I love PainTrain as much as the next guy, but he gone. He ain't coming back.

I'm pissed at Abby. He's been playing well, been a good presence on the ice and then crosses the line and does something REALLY unnecessary.

Abby's hit was questionable and he compounded the issue by both exploding upwards into the hit (and in turn leaving his feet during impact) and extending his arms. Keep your s*** in tight and rock the body, you got yourself a clean hit...

OR DO YOU?

More than anything else:

I want a more coherent explanation of the Gryba on Eller hit. It's topical. It's current.

It's going to be a video comparison we see over and over and over moving forward. ...and I still think it's clean as a bar of Irish Spring.

The video shown in the Shanaban explanation shows that initial point of contact is the chest and shoulder area. To me, it's clear. Impact is chest/sternum, glancing head, glancing right shoulder. It's unfortunate that hitting the ice opened up Eller's precious face, but c'mon Shanny this is grasping...

You say Eller is eligible to be hit, but then quantify it with nonsense!!

I don't even understand what "taking the wrong route" means or "enough of a full body check."

He doesn't explode upwards. He doesn't extend a shoulder, elbow, or fore-arm.

Get out your protactor, t-squares, and level to measure the angle of body checks folks... This is what it's come to.

Agreed.

[Yeti 244]

I raise.

and i will raise you...

[Guest The Axe]

That Orpick hit is perfect. Lateral force. Exploding up is dumb.

[kipwinger 8,494]

That Orpick hit is perfect. Lateral force. Exploding up is dumb.

I'm trying to tell ya. And the thing to take from it is, it accomplished everything it was supposed to WHILE AT THE SAME TIME not injuring anyone. He imposed himself physically, he separated the man from the puck, he broke up the rush AND he didn't injure anyone. That's exactly how you should be hitting in any era, past or present.

Edited May 6, 2013 by kipwinger

[Guest Crymson]

OP: your answer is the star player rule. For purposes of supplementary punishment, star players are treated differently from all others. This is why Weber got no suspension. This is also why Pronger got two one-game suspensions in 2007 for his two ridiculous hits rather than being kicked out of the playoffs after the second one, as any non-star player would have.

Sad but true. I was hoping that Shanahan would bring greater integrity, backbone, and consistency to the discipline scene, but he lost all credibility within one season of starting at the job. Now he's a farce just like Campbell was.

[OhioWing 0]

When I saw the hit I figured one or two games. He left his feet after skating across the rink and popped him high with a shoulder and then the arm came out like a swing as he bounced off. It looked worse than it was the the Duck laid on the ice long enough to get the additional pity added to a 2 minute penalty to make it a 5.

All of that said, if that was done to Dats none of us would be defending it as a clean hit and unworthy or suspension. We would be screaming for at least 2 if not more and some of us would be looking for capital punishment.

Based on the rules in place now, that was not a clean hit and Abby should have known it was going to end bad.

unworthy of suspension - damn fat fingers

[BuckeyeWingsfan80 209]

LOL good luck getting "answers", as if the NHL's disciplinary actions are or were ever considered answerable to the fans.

Just get over it already and focus on the game at hand - it's over and done with. Mistakes were made. It happens. One doesn't lead into another, this isn't the WWE.

[Dabura 12,206]

1. Weber is a star. Abdelkader is not.

2. The Predators unequivocally need Weber. We don't unequivocally need Abdelkader.

3. Physics. And stuff.

[Kira 451]

What really got me was watching the Montreal - Ottawa free for all the other night, and absolutely nothing was handed down to any of them, including the Montreal guy (I forget who) who took his stick and whacked the Ottawa guy in the back of the legs with a two-hander. They made 3/26/97 look like a Boy Scout campout. And nothing was done to them - not one thing. I am sad now I didn't watch the whole thing, and I'll be interested to see what happens tonight. But even one of the Montreal players skated by the Ottawa bench and was yelling at the players and coach. Come on, really?

I smell double standard...and it's rank.

[Z Winged Dangler 2,082]

What really got me was watching the Montreal - Ottawa free for all the other night, and absolutely nothing was handed down to any of them, including the Montreal guy (I forget who) who took his stick and whacked the Ottawa guy in the back of the legs with a two-hander. They made 3/26/97 look like a Boy Scout campout. And nothing was done to them - not one thing. I am sad now I didn't watch the whole thing, and I'll be interested to see what happens tonight. But even one of the Montreal players skated by the Ottawa bench and was yelling at the players and coach. Come on, really?

I smell double standard...and it's rank.

Apparently shooting a puck at a guy on the other team at the 19:59 mark of the 3rd in a 6-1 loss is totally sportsmanlike too. Shanny's still watching the game tape, or did he just let it all slide cause stick work is ok in the NHL? I'd love to see him "breakdown" that game in one of his Shanaban clips.

[LeftWinger 4,936]

What really got me was watching the Montreal - Ottawa free for all the other night, and absolutely nothing was handed down to any of them, including the Montreal guy (I forget who) who took his stick and whacked the Ottawa guy in the back of the legs with a two-hander. They made 3/26/97 look like a Boy Scout campout. And nothing was done to them - not one thing. I am sad now I didn't watch the whole thing, and I'll be interested to see what happens tonight. But even one of the Montreal players skated by the Ottawa bench and was yelling at the players and coach. Come on, really?

I smell double standard...and it's rank.

You may just want to watch that DVD one more time...I don't remember the last time there was that much blood at a boy scout campout...even comparing it with that MTL-OTT game, 3/26 has it beat hands and turtles down...

I do understand the point you are trying to make though, but actually fighting is part of the game and really has no stipulations that you will be suspended for doing it. It was a 5 on 5 brawl. If someone had left the penalty box or the bench or even a bench clearing brawl, then there would have been suspensions, but fights in a single game are not subject for suspension.

edit: of course I am a little bias towards 3/26 because I was there in person...

Edited May 7, 2013 by LeftWinger