Guest The Axe Report post Posted May 15, 2013 Agreed in principle. The guy can absolutely do it all. But if you put my middle aged arse on a line with St. Loui, I'd pot 25. He's amazing. Stamkos has all the skills, not looking to take away from him, but I'm interested to see what he does once Marty hangs them up. That would be an off year for you. You got mad hands, bro! No he's not an accurate shooter. He has the best wrist shot on the team but he has terrible slap shot accuracy. It's a known fact and he's admitted it himself. Said, he didn't shoot much when he was younger cuz he didn't like breaking his sticks and having to buy a new one. It's on his personal twitter if you need proof. There's been times where Mickey Redmonds joked around and said "Pav should probably stay away from the slap shot" after he missed one or two wide, I believe it was the phoenix game end of season. Hardest slap shot : Franzen Most accurate slap shot: Zetterberg? (maybe.. not so much anymore) Best wrist shot: Datsyuk (probably top 10 in the league) Best backhanded shot: Zetterberg (probably one of the best in the league) Ericsson has the hardest shot. Pavs has the rest. Honorable mention to Z. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted May 15, 2013 (edited) That would be an off year for you. You got mad hands, bro! Ericsson has the hardest shot. Pavs has the rest. Honorable mention to Z. No Pavs slap shot is atrocious. Known fact. You gotta stop bandwagoning your fav player for everytime my man. Pav is my fav player but I give credit where its deserved. Z has one of the best accurate back handed shots in the league, it's been said multiple times. Here's a few examples: Listen to what Larry Murphy says in the second video "No player with a better backhand than Henrik Zetterberg" Edited May 15, 2013 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted May 15, 2013 Pavs just potted one against the Ducks. A beauty. Too many good back handers to even post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,476 Report post Posted May 15, 2013 Pavs just potted one against the Ducks. A beauty. Too many good back handers to even post. you will honestly say pasha has a more accurate slapshot than Z? and a better backhander? I can recall at least 4 beautiful impossible angled backhand goals for z last year, and maybe one for pasha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted May 15, 2013 you will honestly say pasha has a more accurate slapshot than Z? and a better backhander? I can recall at least 4 beautiful impossible angled backhand goals for z last year, and maybe one for pasha Slapper I give to Z. Backhander no way. Z may have put more in that way, but that doesnt make his better. Pasha is #1 in shootout % all time. It isnt because he can only use his forehand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted May 15, 2013 I would like to see some more of Z's slap shot power tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,476 Report post Posted May 16, 2013 Slapper I give to Z. Backhander no way. Z may have put more in that way, but that doesnt make his better. Pasha is #1 in shootout % all time. It isnt because he can only use his forehand. Datsyuk is more slick with the puck, and has dirty moves, and has a good backhander. Those are one on one, most of his goals are nice wrister and not too often back handers. Z can pick corners and snipe from the circles with his backhand, he has a wicked backhander, much better and more accurate from far away than Pasha, but he doesn't have the moves or hands that Pasha does, no one can stick handle like the magician. 1 kickazz reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted May 19, 2013 (edited) Pavs just potted one against the Ducks. A beauty. Too many good back handers to even post. Actually because I completely disagree with you, I'd like you to find some on youtube that were better in AIM than the Zetterberg ones I posted and show us. Prove me wrong. You wont be able to. In fact i just searched "Zetterberg backhand shot" on youtube and found 5 videos, search "Datsyuk backhand shot" and found only 2. Interesting... The league as well as color analysts from FSN and NBC have repeatedly said that Zetterberg has one of the best, if not THE BEST backhanded shots in the league. Partly because of his stick which has a very small curve designed for backhanded shots. The fact that you actually think Datsyuk has the best shot on the team shows how big of a troll you are. Datsyuk ISN'T KNOWN for his shooting. He's known for his stick handling and finesse. He himself has admitted over and over that he doesn't like shooting the puck because he doesn't think its the best part of the game. So now we have you're opinion vs. NHL, datsyuk himself, youtube videos, and the rest of these people on these forums and other forums. Get off that Datsyuk bandwagon my friend. It's okay to have favorite players, but taking away credit where it's deserved is just silly. Slapper I give to Z. So now you're changing your opinion? At first you say that Datsyuk has the best shots and accuracy and now your giving the "slapper to Z" Go watch the videos I posted again. Listen to what Larry Murphy said "Nobody with a better backhand than Henrik Zetterberg" I think Murphy has more of a legitimate argument than a hockey fan. End of discussion. Edited May 19, 2013 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,476 Report post Posted May 19, 2013 Actually because I completely disagree with you, I'd like you to find some on youtube that were better in AIM than the Zetterberg ones I posted and show us. Prove me wrong. You wont be able to. In fact i just searched "Zetterberg backhand shot" on youtube and found 5 videos, search "Datsyuk backhand shot" and found only 2. Interesting... The league as well as color analysts from FSN and NBC have repeatedly said that Zetterberg has one of the best, if not THE BEST backhanded shots in the league. Partly because of his stick which has a very small curve designed for backhanded shots. The fact that you actually think Datsyuk has the best shot on the team shows how big of a troll you are. Datsyuk ISN'T KNOWN for his shooting. He's known for his stick handling and finesse. He himself has admitted over and over that he doesn't like shooting the puck because he doesn't think its the best part of the game. So now we have you're opinion vs. NHL, datsyuk himself, youtube videos, and the rest of these people on these forums and other forums. Get off that Datsyuk bandwagon my friend. It's okay to have favorite players, but taking away credit where it's deserved is just silly. So now you're changing your opinion? At first you say that Datsyuk has the best shots and accuracy and now your giving the "slapper to Z" Go watch the videos I posted again. Listen to what Larry Murphy said "Nobody with a better backhand than Henrik Zetterberg" I think Murphy has more of a legitimate argument than a hockey fan. End of discussion. the axe is silent when he is wrong, but in a month he will post a thread called Z has the best slapshot/backand in the league when it conveniences him... 1 kickazz reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fedorovfan 25 Report post Posted May 19, 2013 It happens to the best of 'em. Yzerman slowed down but that's when he truly became a better captain. I thought Zetterberg played his best game of the playoffs in game 2 yesterday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted May 20, 2013 the axe is silent when he is wrong, but in a month he will post a thread called Z has the best slapshot/backand in the league when it conveniences him... http://www.nhl.com/ice/m_statslist.htm?cb=m_statslist&gameType=2&season=20122013&team=DET The problem is that the axe isnt wrong. kissazz will say this, say that, and blah blah blah. But then we look at the actual STATISTICS, and we find that Datsyuk led the team in goals. He is the best shooter we have. Period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted May 20, 2013 Zetterberg is now a playmaker BUT can still shoot the puck. He's an elite player STILL in the NHL even if he is aging and with back problems. And I'm happy he is our captain. GO WINGS!! 1 kickazz reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted May 20, 2013 (edited) http://www.nhl.com/ice/m_statslist.htm?cb=m_statslist&gameType=2&season=20122013&team=DET The problem is that the axe isnt wrong. kissazz will say this, say that, and blah blah blah. But then we look at the actual STATISTICS, and we find that Datsyuk led the team in goals. He is the best shooter we have. Period. LMAO you just proved how naïve and ridiculous your argument is. You cant be older than 12 years old. You think someones shot is better because they have more goals? OMG lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!! Hey Zdeno Chara had only 7 goals this year, are you telling me Datsyuk has a better slap shot than him because he had more than double his goals? Seriously answer that question for me so I can have another laugh. You're wrong kid. Get over it. You're just making a fool of yourself. BTW im still waiting on those videos. I gave you Zetterberg videos and I gave you Murphy's line talking about zetterbergs backhand shot. I gave you PROOF from an ex hockey player (Murphy). You haven't given any proof yet. And just to own your logic a little further. Since you say Datsyuk led the team in goals this season makes him the best shooter; here's a fact for you, Henrik Zetterberg is ranked 3rd in goals in playoffs behind Jaromire Jagr and Patrick Marleau. So according to you're logic, since Zetterberg leads the league in goals among active players he's the third best shooter in the LEAGUE. Datsyuk is ranked 12 in goals in the league. So that means Datsyuk is the 12th best shooter. So Z is 3rd best shooter and Pav is 12th best shooter. This is your logic. Lol. Edited May 20, 2013 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted May 20, 2013 Slapper I give to Z. First you say that. Datsyuk led the team in goals. He is the best shooter we have. Period. Then you say that. ---- Lol make up you're mind. Your just making a joke out of your argument. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted May 20, 2013 Hank needs to use the slapper more often, IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted May 20, 2013 First you say that. Then you say that. ---- Lol make up you're mind. Your just making a joke out of your argument. Lets make it easy: Slapper = Dats 5, Z 8 Backhander = Dats 9, Z 9 Wrister = Dats 9, Z 7 Dangle Shot = Dats 10, Z 7 Total = Dats 33, Z 31 Datsyuk CLEARLY has the best overall shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted May 21, 2013 Another SNIPE by Dats! Love it!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted May 21, 2013 (edited) Lets make it easy: Slapper = Dats 5, Z 8 Backhander = Dats 9, Z 9 Wrister = Dats 9, Z 7 Dangle Shot = Dats 10, Z 7 Total = Dats 33, Z 31 Datsyuk CLEARLY has the best overall shot. Wtf is a dangle shot? You cant just make up shots. It's backhand, slapshot and wrist shot. The only extra one is SNAP shot but that's just another form of a wrist shot. Have you even played hockey...? Since dangle shot doesn't exist... Let's use you're own silly logic and numbers. Slapper = Dats 5, Z 8 Backhander = Dats 9, Z 9 Wrister = Dats 9, Z 7 Total = Dats 23, Zet 24. So Z wins by your logic. Besides, I think the consensus here is that Zetterberg has a better backhander and Slap shot. Datsyuk has the better wrist shot. So the 9's on backhand is wrong. Lol here's more proof to keep proving you wrong. If you search "Shot (ice hockey)" on Wikipedia, look what it says under Backhanded shot: "The backhand shot is a wrist shot released from the back of the blade, and on the player's backhand. This shot is not as powerful or accurate as any of the other shots, but often comes unexpectedly. Backhand shots are primarily taken close to the goal, and are most commonly used on breakaways. NHL players known for their backhand-shot include: Sidney Crosby, Marian Hossa, Milan Hejduk, Patrick Marleau, Mike Richards, Paul Stastny, Henrik Zetterberg, Derek Roy, Claude Giroux, and Daniel Briere." How much more proof do you need? The whole world is crying out and saying Zetterberg has a better backhanded shot than Datsyuk. Troll. Edited May 21, 2013 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted May 21, 2013 Wtf is a dangle shot? You cant just make up shots. It's backhand, slapshot and wrist shot. The only extra one is SNAP shot but that's just another form of a wrist shot. Have you even played hockey...? Since dangle shot doesn't exist... Let's use you're own silly logic and numbers. Slapper = Dats 5, Z 8 Backhander = Dats 9, Z 9 Wrister = Dats 9, Z 7 Total = Dats 23, Zet 24. So Z wins by your logic. Besides, I think the consensus here is that Zetterberg has a better backhander and Slap shot. Datsyuk has the better wrist shot. So the 9's on backhand is wrong. Watch Dats in a shootout. He has a lot of Dangle Shots. Z has a one too. Just because you dont recognize it doesnt mean it doesnt exist. Dats has more dangles and better dangle shots than Z, so he gets the edge. Did you see that SNIPE tonight? Another BIG goal from Dats. Booya. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted May 21, 2013 (edited) Watch Dats in a shootout. He has a lot of Dangle Shots. Z has a one too. Just because you dont recognize it doesnt mean it doesnt exist. Dats has more dangles and better dangle shots than Z, so he gets the edge. Did you see that SNIPE tonight? Another BIG goal from Dats. Booya. At first I stated you were 12 years old but now im convinced you're 9 years old. Lol First of, there is not such thing as a dangle shot and to make up something so stupid is an insult to hockey players so allow me to tell you to keep quiet and stop making up things. Let me teach you a little about hockey kiddo (yes since you're obviously no older than 9). Theres the wrist shot, theres the slap shot, theres the snap shot and theres the backhander. Why don't you google dangle shot and post something on here that defines it. You can't. Second, of all, Datsyuk's shot in todays game was a wrist shot. Not a slap shot. It's been established Datsyuk has the best wrist shot. This threads name is "Zetterberg SLAP shot" Do you not know how to read? LMAO. Still waiting on your proofs that say Datsyuk has a better backhanded shot. I've given you youtube videos, Larry Murphys commentary, online article etc. You haven't given jack. Edited May 21, 2013 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsfan4795 552 Report post Posted May 21, 2013 At first I stated you were 12 years old but now im convinced you're 9 years old. Lol First of, there is not such thing as a dangle shot and to make up something so stupid is an insult to hockey players so allow me to tell you to keep quiet and stop making up things. Let me teach you a little about hockey kiddo (yes since you're obviously no older than 9). Theres the wrist shot, theres the slap shot, theres the snap shot and theres the backhander. Why don't you google dangle shot and post something on here that defines it. You can't. Second, of all, Datsyuk's shot in todays game was a wrist shot. Not a slap shot. It's been established Datsyuk has the best wrist shot. This threads name is "Zetterberg SLAP shot" Do you not know how to read? LMAO. Still waiting on your proofs that say Datsyuk has a better backhanded shot. I've given you youtube videos, Larry Murphys commentary, online article etc. You haven't given jack. I'm surprised you haven't been warned by the mods yet. This isn't Youtube, lets try to have some respect. Axe isn't attacking anyone, why must you attack him? Were all wings fans here. Arguing about who's shot is better is like picking between Lidstrom and Jesus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted May 21, 2013 (edited) At first I stated you were 12 years old but now im convinced you're 9 years old. Lol First of, there is not such thing as a dangle shot and to make up something so stupid is an insult to hockey players so allow me to tell you to keep quiet and stop making up things. Let me teach you a little about hockey kiddo (yes since you're obviously no older than 9). Theres the wrist shot, theres the slap shot, theres the snap shot and theres the backhander. Why don't you google dangle shot and post something on here that defines it. You can't. Second, of all, Datsyuk's shot in todays game was a wrist shot. Not a slap shot. It's been established Datsyuk has the best wrist shot. This threads name is "Zetterberg SLAP shot" Do you not know how to read? LMAO. Still waiting on your proofs that say Datsyuk has a better backhanded shot. I've given you youtube videos, Larry Murphys commentary, online article etc. You haven't given jack. That, my friend, is a dangle shot. You know Z is wicked nasty on the dangle shot tip, but he's still in our galaxy. Dats is Merlin-esque with his dangle shots. Your jaw drops. Btw, did you see his SNIPE tonight? Top corner. Sorry, my phone is not letting me cut and paste Z's shootout goal for some reason. Ive tried twice now. No luck. Edited May 21, 2013 by The Axe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted May 21, 2013 3 sick backhanders of other dimensionsional capability and a dangle shot (#3) in there as well. http://m.youtube.com/index?client=mv-verizon-us&desktop_uri=%2F%3Fclient%3Dmv-verizon-us Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted May 21, 2013 (edited) I'm surprised you haven't been warned by the mods yet. This isn't Youtube, lets try to have some respect. Axe isn't attacking anyone, why must you attack him? Were all wings fans here. Arguing about who's shot is better is like picking between Lidstrom and Jesus Well actually he called me "kissazz" so let's not get into technicalities. Me calling him a kid isn't really an attack. 3 sick backhanders of other dimensionsional capability and a dangle shot (#3) in there as well. http://m.youtube.com/index?client=mv-verizon-us&desktop_uri=%2F%3Fclient%3Dmv-verizon-us Links not working That, my friend, is a dangle shot. You know Z is wicked nasty on the dangle shot tip, but he's still in our galaxy. Dats is Merlin-esque with his dangle shots. Your jaw drops. No such thing as a dangle shot there's only three types of shots in hockey, Wrist shot, slap shot and snap shot. A backhanded shot is a type of wrist shot. The dangle shot as you keep calling it is called "deking" and shooting. That's a whole different part of the game. Datsyuk is god at dekeing that's partly why his wrist shots are so good. Wrist shots usually compliment you're deking ability. Slap shots usually aren't related to deking rather more on power/shot accuracy. Edited May 21, 2013 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsfan4795 552 Report post Posted May 21, 2013 Well actually he called me "kissazz" so let's not get into technicalities. Me calling him a kid isn't really an attack. Links not working I didn't notice that. Perhaps it was a mistake? Either way, the childish behavior gets old fast. How about you both agree to disagree. 1 Z Winged Dangler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites