ogreslayer 1,069 Report post Posted May 18, 2013 Is there really a chance the Hawks need to buy out Hos Or is it just speculation? As of now, the Blackhawks have 21 players signed for next year & projected cap space of a little over $2m. There might be a chance if they want any cap flexibility at all & also get rid of the risk of carrying cap hit for him if he retires early under the new CBA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted May 18, 2013 Is there really a chance the Hawks need to buy out Hos Or is it just speculation? I doubt he gets bought out. @WorldofIsaa R.I.P. Marian Hossa who was shot in the first period of today's Wings-Hawks game. pic.twitter.com/NZ8811XDQh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,961 Report post Posted May 18, 2013 Did Hossa get a penalty for that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Manny>Ozzie(by a long shot) 55 Report post Posted May 19, 2013 What makes you think Hossa would have signed for $5 million? Because he did... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyukian-Deke 722 Report post Posted May 19, 2013 You can't really fault Holland for signing Franzen. He had an EPIC playoff run to the Cup, he was younger and a guy we drafted. He was very comparable to Hossa and you got him for cheaper. Sure we can sit back now and talk about what has transpired but I don't fault Holland for making that decision when he did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted May 19, 2013 You can't really fault Holland for signing Franzen. He had an EPIC playoff run to the Cup, he was younger and a guy we drafted. He was very comparable to Hossa and you got him for cheaper. Sure we can sit back now and talk about what has transpired but I don't fault Holland for making that decision when he did. I have to agree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogreslayer 1,069 Report post Posted May 19, 2013 Because he did... Well, that's a little misleading since what you're referring to is his cap hit. He actually signed for $7.9m a year until his contract starts to back dive. To get it to a manageable cap hit, the Blackhawks doubled the number of years at $1m at the back end of his contract that you'll find on Hank's & Mule's (4 vs 2) which takes him until he's 42. Under the new CBA, that might come back & bite them in the ass as they'll have cap consequences now if he retires before the contract is up or they wind up with an ineffective 40+ year old Hossa playing on their 4th line a couple of seasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingsRox 614 Report post Posted May 19, 2013 Hossa 1 - Franzen 1. All tied up 1 13dangledangle reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nevermind 363 Report post Posted May 19, 2013 Hossa 1 - Franzen 1. All tied up Dives: Hossa 2 - Franzen 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted May 19, 2013 Hossa > Franzen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Manny>Ozzie(by a long shot) 55 Report post Posted May 19, 2013 Hossa has been a perennial under achiever in the playoffs. Mule always brings it in big games. Hossa may be the sexier name, but that's it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hillbillywingsfan 792 Report post Posted May 19, 2013 Hossa has been a perennial under achiever in the playoffs. Mule always brings it in big games. Hossa may be the sexier name, but that's it. Use his first name Marian and all that sexiness goes away. 3 Namingway, Joeyhodge and wingsfan4795 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingsRox 614 Report post Posted May 19, 2013 Hossa regular season player. Mule playoff player. Take your pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13dangledangle 965 Report post Posted May 19, 2013 Hossa 1 - Franzen 1. All tied up I really hope the Mule starts lighting it up here...That goal was great Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted May 19, 2013 Hossa regular season player. Mule playoff player. Take your pick. You do know hossa is 5th in playoff points for active players right? Not too bad for a "regular season player". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted May 19, 2013 Hossa > Franzen Hossa's salary > Franzen's salary 1 ogreslayer reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hey man nice shot! 144 Report post Posted May 19, 2013 In the end hossa plays for the hawks and franzen is a wing. Hossa doesn't bleed red and white therefore franzen is my selection. 2 St. Michael (the Red Wing) and Namingway reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Manny>Ozzie(by a long shot) 55 Report post Posted May 19, 2013 You do know hossa is 5th in playoff points for active players right? Not too bad for a "regular season player". Most of those points were piled up years ago. What have you done for me lately? Hossa plays a good defensive game in the playoffs I guess, but he has been a bust for the most part in the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted May 19, 2013 All it will take is Franzen not scoring for a couple of games, whether he is getting good chances or not fair/unfair, and people will probably be changing their tunes pretty quickly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unsaddleddonald 357 Report post Posted May 19, 2013 Not Franzen's fault. Not Holland's fault. The fault lies with Jiri Hudler and Mikael Sameulsson. If Kenny had known that those two useless sacks of s*** weren't coming back, he could have contributed the funds he was planning to use on them to use on Hossa. 3 Joeyhodge, Nev and T.Low reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted May 21, 2013 Funny that Franzen is a - 6 so far this playoffs. I like Franzen still and I'm not a hater. For the record I think the + and - stat is legit though. Tells what good and bad things happen when your on the ice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted May 21, 2013 Funny that Franzen is a - 6 so far this playoffs. I like Franzen still and I'm not a hater. For the record I think the + and - stat is legit though. Tells what good and bad things happen when your on the ice. My beef with Franzen is that he doesnt punish anyone. What good is 6'3 235 if you play like youre 5'10 180? Would be nice if our -6, 6'3 guy could smash Bickell's face in at the end of the game. I hate seeing the Wings take cheap shots with no retribution. 1 St. Michael (the Red Wing) reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted May 22, 2013 My beef with Franzen is that he doesnt punish anyone. What good is 6'3 235 if you play like youre 5'10 180? Would be nice if our -6, 6'3 guy could smash Bickell's face in at the end of the game. I hate seeing the Wings take cheap shots with no retribution. I agree but something is working for us. So no complaints. Also my beef is Franzen and Hossa are 2 different players. Not even comparable unless you want to pin point scoring numbers. Both drafted differently, grew up in different systems with different expectations. Sh** Franzen was a third liner who exceeded expectations for us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites