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#201 krsmith17

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 06:50 AM

Well said Axe. The people ragging on Smith are clueless. Every Red Wings fan is aware of Smitty's mistakes and we have all found ourselves cringe when he has the puck in the defensive zone with Toews, Kane, Hossa, etc. zoning in on him. But like The Axe said, these are some of the best players in the world, and you expect a rookie to flawlessly exit the zone every time. Yes, he has made his fair share of mistakes and he might make another one in his career... The point is there is so much potential and upside to his game and there is so much experience to be gained, especially in this game 7. To say he should be benched for Ian f*cking White is absurd, and to say that he should be traded is laughable... beyond ridiculous...

 

Also, as matt198913 said, these same people are going to be the first to jump on Dekeyser (or whoever else...) when he struggles next season. The bottom line is, some people just love to b*tch and complain, but they're what makes the world go around, so keep it up fellas, without people like you, there would be none of these great debates.



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 07:49 AM

Well said Axe. The people ragging on Smith are clueless. Every Red Wings fan is aware of Smitty's mistakes and we have all found ourselves cringe when he has the puck in the defensive zone with Toews, Kane, Hossa, etc. zoning in on him. But like The Axe said, these are some of the best players in the world, and you expect a rookie to flawlessly exit the zone every time. Yes, he has made his fair share of mistakes and he might make another one in his career... The point is there is so much potential and upside to his game and there is so much experience to be gained, especially in this game 7. To say he should be benched for Ian f*cking White is absurd, and to say that he should be traded is laughable... beyond ridiculous...

 

Also, as matt198913 said, these same people are going to be the first to jump on Dekeyser (or whoever else...) when he struggles next season. The bottom line is, some people just love to b*tch and complain, but they're what makes the world go around, so keep it up fellas, without people like you, there would be none of these great debates.

He needs a D partner like DeKeyser.  Give Kronwall Q and see how many times he gets burnt, which is just as many as Smith in the playoffs if some people havn't noticed.  Smith has all the tools, now he just needs to pay moref****** attention and he needs a more defensively sound partner.  Q hasn't played bad, but sometimes you need to look at the pairings and know that they don't mix well.  The only Dman that could get away with playing with anyone and make them look good is having his number retired next season. 


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 09:27 AM

Smith will play his heart out tonight!


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 10:18 AM

He is still better or just as good as Erickson.  Kindle and Erickson have more wtf moments just passing the puck every game. I can handle it with Kindles offensive ability. Erickson is like brad stuard as far as turing the puck over instead of like Sturard and waiting for a absolute crutial point in the game He does it like 3 or 4 random times during every game.



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 10:42 AM

He is still better or just as good as Erickson.  Kindle and Erickson have more wtf moments just passing the puck every game. I can handle it with Kindles offensive ability. Erickson is like brad stuard as far as turing the puck over instead of like Sturard and waiting for a absolute crutial point in the game He does it like 3 or 4 random times during every game.

 

do you intentionally spell all the wings names wrong?



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 10:53 AM

Come on man, give the guy a break.. He spelled Brad right... :lol:



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 11:17 AM

He's been on the ice for 16 goals during these playoffs. This thread may be laughable to you, but smith's playing time should seriously be reassessed. I really wish we had lashoff at our disposal.

 

Yeah, totally agree.  Today is game day, so I am a "Brendan Smith" fan in the sense that he will play, and I want him and the team to succeed.  But there has a forum for fans to express what should be a pretty obvious observation, which is that Brendan Smith has been killing us.  Every team has some degree of issues with its 6th defenseman, but it just seems like Smith ends up out there for more minutes and more critical moments than the worst defenseman on other teams.



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 11:20 AM

When all else fails blame Quincey... Quincey has been great and breaks up plays left and right imagine him with a competent partner. Smith puts himself in positions to turn over the puck over constantly. I'm not saying trade him I know he will be a great player but he's making us lose games and I would like to see how Kindl handles the top 4 role. Babcock has this rattled rookie in our top 4 that can't seem to lose his spot no matter what he does.

Also, I think white would surprise a lot of people just like Colo sometimes you need a fresh face

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 11:29 AM

When all else fails blame Quincey... Quincey has been great and breaks up plays left and right imagine him with a competent partner. Smith puts himself in positions to turn over the puck over constantly. I'm not saying trade him I know he will be a great player but he's making us lose games and I would like to see how Kindl handles the top 4 role. Babcock has this rattled rookie in our top 4 that can't seem to lose his spot no matter what he does.

Also, I think white would surprise a lot of people just like Colo sometimes you need a fresh face


YOU are missing the point. Why blame anybody? We are one win away from round 3. Smith, Quincey, etc. are all a part of our success and failure.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 12:11 PM

The same people on here dissing Smith will be the same ones all over Dekeyser when his wheels fall off. If ya actually read the stats in the playoffs Smith hasn't been that bad. 11 hits 15 blocked shots 5 points and -3. Pretty darn good for a rookie Dman.

I prefer to watch the games too.  

 

He has been terrible.  I can't believe anyone would say otherwise, I believe plenty of people on here are competent enough to know even though his a huge pile of s*** now, eventually he will be good.  But unless future Smith is friends with Bill andf****** Ted and is taking a phone booth back to tonights game, then I am more concerned with immediate future not next year. 


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 12:29 PM

He needs a D partner like DeKeyser.  Give Kronwall Q and see how many times he gets burnt, which is just as many as Smith in the playoffs if some people havn't noticed.  Smith has all the tools, now he just needs to pay moref****** attention and he needs a more defensively sound partner.  Q hasn't played bad, but sometimes you need to look at the pairings and know that they don't mix well.  The only Dman that could get away with playing with anyone and make them look good is having his number retired next season. 

i'm sick of the quincy excuse.

 

it's not quincy's fault that smith is having trouble making even the simplest of breakout passes. it's not quincy's fault that smith doesn't know how to cover guys in front of his own net.

 

in fact i would say quincy has been surprisingly good in this series considering he has smith as a defense partner

 

i'm not in the trade smith crowd yet, but people are blind if they don't see that smith is by far the wings worst defensman right now


Edited by chances14, 29 May 2013 - 12:31 PM.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 12:30 PM

Sometimes I feel like an integrated dictionary describing the word ROOKIE would be helpful. The guy is playing his first year in the NHl he is learning and will become better as time goes on, thankfully for us the Wings aren't known tor threating their prospects like crap. Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T using Tapatalk 2

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 12:35 PM

 

do you intentionally spell all the wings names wrong?

brad stuard? 


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 12:45 PM

i'm sick of the quincy excuse.

 

it's not quincy's fault that smith is having trouble making even the simplest of breakout passes. it's not quincy's fault that smith doesn't know how to cover guys in front of his own net.

 

in fact i would say quincy has been surprisingly good in this series considering he has smith as a defense partner

 

i'm not in the trade smith crowd yet, but people are blind if they don't see that smith is by far the wings worst defensman right now

 I'm not using Quincey as an excuse.  The pairing just doesn't mesh well.  And I agree with you, Quincey has been really good in this series.  Re-read my post and point out the part where I blame Q.  I said he hasn't been bad, and Smith needs to pay the f*** attention.  Q is a TWD that likes to roam sometimes, Smith is a OFD that loves to roam all the time.  Babcock needs to keep him on a leash in the defensive zone, while allowing him to roam the offensive zone which he does very well.  I just think that Q should be on with Kronwall and Smith with Ericsson whom is our best shutdown guy.

 

One things' for sure though, there is a lack of communication out there.  Our D need to talk more and Jimmy needs to bark out orders like a General.  And the centremen should also direct traffic out there.  This is where our leaders need to take over, cause Babcock can't jump the boards.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 12:47 PM

Smith will play his heart out tonight!

 

I think he has been playing his heart out... willpower is not the problem, it's his decision making.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:20 PM

Would people please stop trying to point out that Smith is making mistakes... Do you really think any Red Wings fan is that naive to say that Smith is not making mistakes and he has not cost us some goals in these playoffs? There is not one person here trying to say that he has not had his fair share of f*ck ups. But what some of us here are saying is that you cannot be so impulsive to say this guy should be benched or that he should be TRADED ASAP!! THAT is why this thread is beyond ridiculous.

 

Smitty will play tonight and he will have a better game, mark my words. There is a reason why one of the best coaches in the game has so much praise and confidence in the kid. He is going to be a star in this league so stop kicking him when he's down and support your god damn team! GO WINGS!



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:31 PM

Would people please stop trying to point out that Smith is making mistakes... Do you really think any Red Wings fan is that naive to say that Smith is not making mistakes and he has not cost us some goals in these playoffs? There is not one person here trying to say that he has not had his fair share of f*ck ups. But what some of us here are saying is that you cannot be so impulsive to say this guy should be benched or that he should be TRADED ASAP!! THAT is why this thread is beyond ridiculous.
 
Smitty will play tonight and he will have a better game, mark my words. There is a reason why one of the best coaches in the game has so much praise and confidence in the kid. He is going to be a star in this league so stop kicking him when he's down and support your god damn team! GO WINGS!


Great Post.

I am in 100% agreement.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 02:28 PM

All I can think about is what will this thread be like Wednesday night after the game? That's all that matters now.



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 03:09 PM

Would people please stop trying to point out that Smith is making mistakes... Do you really think any Red Wings fan is that naive to say that Smith is not making mistakes and he has not cost us some goals in these playoffs? There is not one person here trying to say that he has not had his fair share of f*ck ups. But what some of us here are saying is that you cannot be so impulsive to say this guy should be benched or that he should be TRADED ASAP!! THAT is why this thread is beyond ridiculous.

 

Smitty will play tonight and he will have a better game, mark my words. There is a reason why one of the best coaches in the game has so much praise and confidence in the kid. He is going to be a star in this league so stop kicking him when he's down and support your god damn team! GO WINGS!

I think a great majority of the posts have acknowledged Smith's talent and appreciate the fact that he's a rookie and believe in time he will be an asset to the team. But at the same time, the Wings aren't the Edmonton Oilers, this isn't the regular season and there's a playoff experienced defenseman sitting in the press box night after night.  Is Ian White the perfect defenseman?  Of course not.He hasn't played over 500 games in the NHL because he sucks.  But I would think he would be an upgrade over Brendan Smith.  Those of us pointing that out doesn't make us crazy (or Krayzie), nor does it mean we're not Wings fans.  It's using logical observation skills.



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 03:21 PM

To avoid the pitchforks and torches showing up at the JLA tomorrow, I hope Smitty plays great. Potting a goal and only 1 or 2 egregious turnovers would be a plus I think :lol: 


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