Guest The Axe Report post Posted May 25, 2013 2 things: 1) The Pens are on the hook with this guy for 2 more years at 5 mil cap hit per and 11.5 mil total owed. What do you do if you're the Pittsburgh GM? 2) If you are Ken Holland, are you interested in Fleury as a back-up to Howard if Pittsbugh decides to buy him out? At what price? 1 wingsfan4795 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingCraig 32 Report post Posted May 25, 2013 2 things: 1) The Pens are on the hook with this guy for 2 more years at 5 mil cap hit per and 11.5 mil total owed. What do you do if you're the Pittsburgh GM? 2) If you are Ken Holland, are you interested in Fleury as a back-up to Howard if Pittsbugh decides to buy him out? At what price? and do what with our current backup? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nosyt612 103 Report post Posted May 25, 2013 I think he'll get a chance somewhere at a starters salary. Also with how good Howard is playing and the new contract I don't think it would be fair or smart to put Howard in that situation. Could end up with another Luongo Schnieder situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted May 25, 2013 and do what with our current backup? I dont know! Thats the point. Pretend youre Ken Holland. You can say "stick" if you want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingCraig 32 Report post Posted May 25, 2013 I dont know! Thats the point. Pretend youre Ken Holland. You can say "stick" if you want. the goaltending will be the same come October Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted May 25, 2013 the goaltending will be the same come October I believe so, too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted May 25, 2013 Normally I'd say the Pens would hang on to him. However, they'll need to dump salary before next season I believe. Tough call. As far as the Wings go, Jimmy's a work-horse. Play him as much as you can next year, and hope Monster is healthy and capable of playing a few games. Then bring Mrazek up for 14-15. 2 sjr2012 and 13dangledangle reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted May 25, 2013 Vokoun isn't much better wings will light him up in finals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stillwater 186 Report post Posted May 25, 2013 Maybe a stupid question, but why would they buy him out? He'll make about the same money as Jimmy Howard next season. He had a good regular season and is part of their core. Vokoun will be 37 by the time next season begins. I doubt the Pens have soured on Fleury, despite the fact that Vokoun is playing right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted May 25, 2013 Maybe a stupid question, but why would they buy him out? He'll make about the same money as Jimmy Howard next season. He had a good regular season and is part of their core. Vokoun will be 37 by the time next season begins. I doubt the Pens have soured on Fleury, despite the fact that Vokoun is playing right now. Seems like Pittsburgh has little confidence in him right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hiei 192 Report post Posted May 25, 2013 Eerily similar situation to 2008. Remember when Hasek started to s*** the bed during the 1st round vs Nashville that year? Put in Osgood, railed our way to the cup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crashnburnluder 385 Report post Posted May 25, 2013 I don't think Pittsburgh is giving up on fluery... They are riding Vokoun because he is the hot goalie. Fluery will be their main horse once again when Vokoun stumbles theses playoffs... (Against Boston, I have a lot of faith in them beating Pitt) then fluery will get the net back. 1 sjr2012 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckeyeWingsfan80 209 Report post Posted May 25, 2013 2 things: 1) The Pens are on the hook with this guy for 2 more years at 5 mil cap hit per and 11.5 mil total owed. What do you do if you're the Pittsburgh GM? 2) If you are Ken Holland, are you interested in Fleury as a back-up to Howard if Pittsbugh decides to buy him out? At what price? 1. I think it's hilarious. f*** the Pens. 2. Absolutely not. You don't cut Howard off at the knees like that and Holland needs to use his cap space wisely to restock the defense. 2 Red Winged and Z Winged Dangler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted May 25, 2013 2 things: 1) The Pens are on the hook with this guy for 2 more years at 5 mil cap hit per and 11.5 mil total owed. What do you do if you're the Pittsburgh GM? 2) If you are Ken Holland, are you interested in Fleury as a back-up to Howard if Pittsbugh decides to buy him out? At what price? 1) I buy him out. 2) Nope. He's mentally fragile, and his presence might cause unwanted tension. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted May 25, 2013 1) I buy him out. 2) Nope. He's mentally fragile, and his presence might cause unwanted tension. I agree. I think he's a liability. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
saven 48 Report post Posted May 25, 2013 1. I think it's hilarious. f*** the Pens. 2. Absolutely not. You don't cut Howard off at the knees like that and Holland needs to use his cap space wisely to restock the defense. 1. Agree f them 2. Are we watching the same team cuz with dd back I think our d is just fine. 1 Serratoni reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingsRox 614 Report post Posted May 25, 2013 I'm glad that a bench warmer is taking up $5 mill cap on their roster. God know who the hell else they can convince to join them if they had that cap space ... No to OP's idea ... although I think the Monster is actually terrible ... even as a backup. His stats are horrible and whenever he starts, I count it a loss ... once in a blue moon, he surprises me but just terribly inconsistent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted May 25, 2013 fleury would be way too expensive of a backup.. he'll start somewhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckbags 863 Report post Posted May 25, 2013 2 things: 1) The Pens are on the hook with this guy for 2 more years at 5 mil cap hit per and 11.5 mil total owed. What do you do if you're the Pittsburgh GM? 2) If you are Ken Holland, are you interested in Fleury as a back-up to Howard if Pittsbugh decides to buy him out? At what price? You are amazing, you've been on Mrazek's jock all year and now you talk about bringing in Fleury as a back up ? Make up your mind dude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted May 25, 2013 The only thing worse than not having a capable backup goaltender is paying too much for a capable backup goaltender. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Resetti 44 Report post Posted May 25, 2013 I don't think Shero would consider buying out Fleury because he probably still has some trade value even though it's diminished. Although he's proven to be miserable in the playoffs recently, he is talented and has performed well in the regular season, and there are definitely teams outside the playoff picture who would be interested in upgrading with an experienced netminder. As for backing up Howard, I don't think it would be worth it. Even with Fleury's diminishing value on the market, and even if Pittsburgh bought out his contract, he would get at least $3 million from some team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckeyeWingsfan80 209 Report post Posted May 26, 2013 1. Agree f them 2. Are we watching the same team cuz with dd back I think our d is just fine. I still don't trust Smith, Kindl or Coliacovo. None of them should be in a top 4 pair, when one of those 3 will be. DD is a good player, but he's only a rookie. A steady veteran presence would be a very nice addition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Serratoni 49 Report post Posted May 26, 2013 I still don't trust Smith, Kindl or Coliacovo. None of them should be in a top 4 pair, when one of those 3 will be. DD is a good player, but he's only a rookie. A steady veteran presence would be a very nice addition. Smith this time next year will be even better. He's still a rookie. And there's no reason to not expect Kindl to continue to improve now that he's found his confidence. As for CocaCola, well, he's not as awful as many make him out to be, but I doubt he fits into the team's long term plans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckeyeWingsfan80 209 Report post Posted May 26, 2013 Smith this time next year will be even better. He's still a rookie. And there's no reason to not expect Kindl to continue to improve now that he's found his confidence. As for CocaCola, well, he's not as awful as many make him out to be, but I doubt he fits into the team's long term plans. If you want to go that way, you get a solid 4th d-man to fill out your top 4 and then put smith and kindl on the bottom pairing so they can develop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
saven 48 Report post Posted May 27, 2013 Cola is not here for long and smith and kindl both are seeing their first real significant time this year. If in two yr ya still feel we need a d upgrade I'll be first to say I was wrong but from what I've seen our d is on the way up and big time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites