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#241 FireCaptain

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 08:02 AM

Because there's no guarantee that you'd get another job.

 

If a team wants to pay you 2/3 of your salary to not play for them and you can go make another 2 mil playing for someone, why stick around on a team that doesn't need/want you??   


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 08:42 AM

Because there's no guarantee that you'd get another job.
 


and definitely no guarantee that if you get another job it'd be on a cup contender

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 10:52 AM

 

Unfortunately the NHL is already in the process of phasing it out of the game.

 

McKee will be forced to wear a visor and any time he starts a fight he'll end up with an extra 2 minutes. Either for taking his helmet off, or for starting a fight wearing a visor.

 

The OHL has already instituted a 10 fight per season limit before suspensions and fines, its only a matter of time before a similar rule is proposed in the NHL.

 

I know there are still a bunch of heavyweights in the league, but McKee is probably around 4 or 5 years away from playing in the league...a lot can change in that time.

 

I'm pretty sure that instigating with a visor isn't called if the player removes his helmet prior to the fight.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 11:00 AM

 
And is free to sign another contract with another team and get paid twice!


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 12:37 PM

Not surprising, but Jagr won't be back with the Bruins.

 

http://prohockeytalk...ure-less-clear/

 

I wonder if this is someone Holland takes a chance on.  

 

Pros: Jagr will probably sign just a one year deal wherever he goes.  We NEED a top six forward and the pickings are kind of slim.  We saw with Boston that he can be a strong two way player.  He is and always has been a puck possession player.

 

Cons: He'll sign with the highest bidder, which makes him too expensive.  Maybe it had to do with injury, but he looked like a 41 year old player by the end of the SCF and this was a shortened season.

 

I wouldn't want him taking a roster spot from one of our up and coming young guns, but at the same time, I don't see any of them being a top 6 forward next year and if we don't get someone, we're looking at Cleary, Samuelsson or Bertuzzi (or possibly all of them) in the top 6.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 12:56 PM

No to Jagr.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 12:59 PM

As much as I do like/respect jagr, we're better off without him. And yea, we won't be top bidders so we won't get him

Not surprising, but Jagr won't be back with the Bruins.
 
http://prohockeytalk...ure-less-clear/
 
I wonder if this is someone Holland takes a chance on.  
 
Pros: Jagr will probably sign just a one year deal wherever he goes.  We NEED a top six forward and the pickings are kind of slim.  We saw with Boston that he can be a strong two way player.  He is and always has been a puck possession player.
 
Cons: He'll sign with the highest bidder, which makes him too expensive.  Maybe it had to do with injury, but he looked like a 41 year old player by the end of the SCF and this was a shortened season.
 
I wouldn't want him taking a roster spot from one of our up and coming young guns, but at the same time, I don't see any of them being a top 6 forward next year and if we don't get someone, we're looking at Cleary, Samuelsson or Bertuzzi (or possibly all of them) in the top 6.


more importantly, it seems horton might hit the open market.. could be very appealing if all goes well with his shoulder

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 01:05 PM

No to Jagr.

1 million times this.

 

This team needs to pick up someone that is young.


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 01:36 PM

i heard carolina is willing to give up the #5 pick for a top 4 dman i would give up smith or quincey(if they wanted him and could extend him only) and more to get that pick if  nichushkin  is available .  id love to see him next to datsyuk next year

 

and since ference is not gonna be resigned maybe we can go after him as a 5-6dman depending the price


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 01:50 PM

i heard carolina is willing to give up the #5 pick for a top 4 dman i would give up smith or quincey(if they wanted him and could extend him only) and more to get that pick if  nichushkin  is available .  id love to see him next to datsyuk next year

 

and since ference is not gonna be resigned maybe we can go after him as a 5-6dman depending the price

 

Seemes strange that they would do this. There are a decent handful of top 4 D-men available as UFAs. If they're looking for a legit top 2 pairing D-man, then that's a different story all together.


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 01:51 PM

i heard carolina is willing to give up the #5 pick for a top 4 dman i would give up smith or quincey(if they wanted him and could extend him only) and more to get that pick if  nichushkin  is available .  id love to see him next to datsyuk next year

 

and since ference is not gonna be resigned maybe we can go after him as a 5-6dman depending the price

 

Canes would be insane to trade the #5 pick for Smith or Quincey. They could simply take a defenseman with that pick.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 01:57 PM

well i said + .... smith/tatar/ferraro ? ... i wouldnt wanna trade tatar but id love to see nichuskin with datsyuk i think theyd do alot of good things and it be nice to see datsyuk with elite talent on his wing



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 02:47 PM

i heard carolina is willing to give up the #5 pick for a top 4 dman

 

You're going to need to cite your source, because that seems fantastically unlikely. It is probable that Darnell Nurse will still be available at #5, and he is an excellent defensive prospect. There is no reason for the 'Canes to trade that possibility away in return for a second-pairing defenseman.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:42 PM

dont remember where i read it but found these

 

Carolina will entertain offers for its 5th-overall pick in hopes of landing a top-4 D-man, GM Jim Rutherford told @theteam1260 Tuesday.

— Dylan Howlett (@DylanHowlett) June 6, 2013

 

  1. Further to the Carolina tweet. There are financial restrictions the Hurricanes face. Need a top 4 D, but can't pay Letang-like dollars.

  2. Interested to see if Carolina trades the 5th pick. Need a top 4 D. Could be part of a package. Told Rutherford is getting lots of calls.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:44 PM

So my question is, would any of you trade Brendan Smith plus whatever for that 5th overall pick so long as we kept our 18th as well?


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:50 PM

So my question is, would any of you trade Brendan Smith plus whatever for that 5th overall pick so long as we kept our 18th as well?

 

No question about it. Darnell Nurse projects to be similar to Smith, and we'd still get another prospect at 18.


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:50 PM

So my question is, would any of you trade Brendan Smith plus whatever for that 5th overall pick so long as we kept our 18th as well?

 

in a heartbeat so long as its nicushkin but i guess barkov would be great as well



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:58 PM

 

dont remember where i read it but found these

 

Carolina will entertain offers for its 5th-overall pick in hopes of landing a top-4 D-man, GM Jim Rutherford told @theteam1260 Tuesday.

— Dylan Howlett (@DylanHowlett) June 6, 2013

 

  1. Further to the Carolina tweet. There are financial restrictions the Hurricanes face. Need a top 4 D, but can't pay Letang-like dollars.

  2. Interested to see if Carolina trades the 5th pick. Need a top 4 D. Could be part of a package. Told Rutherford is getting lots of calls.

 

 

As with Dreger's comment about Pittsburgh possibly trading Malkin, those are 100% speculative. They do not reference any insider information.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 04:39 PM

well i also remember you saying that about filppula's salary demands months ago and we all know it turned out to be correct

 

who knows what will happen on draft day , they wont just give away a top 5 pick but i do believe there seeing whats out there



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 07:01 PM

Um, if you have financial issues then isn't having a young prospect from draft a little more desirable than trading pick for some established guy's bloated contract?







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