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Darren Helm - Career in Question?


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#41 DeGraa55

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 05:31 PM

Helm with Miller and eaves would be a great shut down line. They're all PK guys so they're more than used to going up against Toews and his linemates.



But pk is different than 5 on 5. I just don't see that happening.

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Posted 02 June 2013 - 07:43 PM

The problem is his linemates can't handle toews linemates. He is a bottom 6 guy. If he was on the team this year he is on fourth line. So you want him emmerton and eaves out verse toews? That's pure stupidity sorry.


Unless there's an icing or something most of the time top 6 players face top 6 players....same with bottom 6.

 

I'd be perfectly content having Eaves - Helm - Miller out against Toews' line.  Emmerton not so much, but with helm in Emmerton is clearly the odd man out.



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 11:35 PM

Dr house?
I'm sure he'll come back. Hopefully at the beginning of the season. I just hope he doesn't lose any of his speed when he comes back

Most likely will. Speed is 100% related to back strength. And so all we can hope is they find what the back issue is and fix it. If it's never diagnosed, it's going to be a risky game.



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Posted 03 June 2013 - 08:00 AM

I never thought I'd say this about a forward whose career high in goals is 12, but we NEED him.  His speed does so much for us.  So many times during that Hawks series, I would see their defensemen pinch in and make a play and I kept thinking to myself, "Damn, I bet if Helm was out there, they wouldn't be pinching in like that so often".  When Helm's on the ice, the d-men HAVE to stay back or he'll be behind them.  His speed, defensive skills and faceoff ability have made his skill set invaluable.  

 

I really hope this back injury problem gets healed completely and this injury is behind him for good.



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Posted 04 June 2013 - 09:50 AM

Most likely will. Speed is 100% related to back strength. And so all we can hope is they find what the back issue is and fix it. If it's never diagnosed, it's going to be a risky game.

 

Respectfully, I 100% disagree with your statement above.  Are you saying leg strength, leg drive, push technique, abdominal/core strength, etc... don't have anything to do with speed??  Back strength is certainly a factor, but not THE 100% factor!


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#46 Z Winged Dangler

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 01:13 PM

 

Respectfully, I 100% disagree with your statement above.  Are you saying leg strength, leg drive, push technique, abdominal/core strength, etc... don't have anything to do with speed??  Back strength is certainly a factor, but THE 100% factor!

Agreed.  I know this from personal agony.  Back pain just slows you down, and a lot.  But leg strength and core pushes you forward. 


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Posted 04 June 2013 - 01:30 PM

 

Respectfully, I 100% disagree with your statement above. 

 

He said back strength is directly RELATED to speed.  There is no arguing with that statement as it is 100% true. 



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Posted 04 June 2013 - 04:44 PM

But pk is different than 5 on 5. I just don't see that happening.

 

 

 

The line of Moen, Niedermayer, and Pahlsson, all of whom were defensive forwards, was excellent in 2007.



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Posted 04 June 2013 - 08:08 PM

What worked for me - although it took them two operations to figure it out - is fusion of the 3rd and 4th vertebrae, with screws and stuff put in.  They tried a laminectomy first and that just made it worse.   The nerves are now free to do their thing and I have had no back pain whatsoever since January.   I'd like to think they've looked at all possibilities, but OF COURSE I could have given this information if they'd just called.  But neeeuuuoooooo...!   :rolleyes:


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Posted 04 June 2013 - 09:14 PM

he's done - stick a fork in him.



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Posted 05 June 2013 - 09:46 AM

 

He said back strength is directly RELATED to speed.  There is no arguing with that statement as it is 100% true. 

No.  The poster kisckazz said exactly this: Speed is 100% related to back strength.  Meaning: skating fast is attributed to nothing but back strength.

 

You can switch the words around and leave out words/numbers...whatever...back to my original post; what he specifically stated was/is not true (IMO).

 

Let's move on shall we


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 01:42 PM

MLive Story

 

The June 5 story is titled:

 

Red Wings forward Darren Helm optimistic latest prescription, rest and patience, heals ailing back

 

I looked for a quote that was optimistic. This is the best I could do.

 

"If I just leave it alone and be happy with the progress I'm making and the treatment I'm doing, things are going well. I feel like I'm doing what I can to get healthy.''

 

Not exactly inspiring. :(


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 04:11 PM

Man, backs are a *****.  So many players from so many leagues and even in the working world have had their careers ended from a back problem.  I remember when the Wings signed Troy Crowder in 1991 and everyone from my dad to your mom was drooling with excitement to see him a Bob Probert patrol the ice and wipe the league clean of clowns.  He hurt his back in the pre-season and ended up play only 7 games with us.  He made a comeback 2 years after that (really three years considering he was hurt pretty much the entire 91-92 season) and played another 3 years, but only appeared in 74 total games in those three season, officially retiring in 1999 due to his re-occurring back issues....

 

I hate to say it or even think it, but this could very well be a career ending injury for Helm....damn.


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 09:13 PM

You weren't trying hard enough, Steve :)

 


Helm finally got some good news after the season ended, when he learned that he won't require offseason surgery and is expected back in training camp next fall.



#55 Vladifan

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 09:58 PM

You weren't trying hard enough, Steve :)  

 

 

 

This is indeed good news!   :w00t: 


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 10:32 PM

You weren't trying hard enough, Steve :)

 

Good!  Does that mean they found the problem? or are they just hoping


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Posted 06 June 2013 - 11:57 PM

Good!  Does that mean they found the problem? or are they just hoping

 

That's the thing with backs, it's so hard to diagnose the exact cause. The scary thing is like concussions is one day you'll feel 100% and then the next you'll be in agony. Backs and the brain are about the last two places on the body that the medical community hasn't quite nailed down 100% yet.



#58 Zetts

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 05:48 PM

From Helene St. James' twitter:

 

Apologies: Ken Holland said Darren Helm is better, and Red Wings expect (not except) him at development camp next week.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 05:51 PM

From Helene St. James' twitter:
 


Can't wait to watch a 3rd line of Nyq- helm- Tatar wow! Best 3rd line the game and it not even close

#60 matt198913

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 05:53 PM

Can't wait to see Helm period
BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





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