The CapGeek Thread

[matthewdanna 143]

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m)
Johan Franzen ($3.955m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($5.750m) / Damien Brunner ($3.250m)
Drew Miller ($1.350m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m)
Gustav Nyquist ($1.275m) / Joakim Andersson ($1.000m) / Tomas Tatar ($0.840m)
Cory Emmerton ($0.533m) / Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m)
DEFENSEMEN
Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) / Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m)
Jakub Kindl ($2.400m) / Danny DeKeyser ($1.350m)
Brendan Smith ($1.950m) / Kyle Quincey ($3.775m)
Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m)
OTHER
Buyout: Mikael Samuelsson ($0.000m)
Buyout: Todd Bertuzzi ($0.625m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,377,879; BONUSES: $1,010,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,932,121

3rd and 4th Lines can alternate based on who's hot, but I like those lines.

[Donohue75 17]

FORWARDS
Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m)
Johan Franzen ($3.955m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($5.250m) / Damien Brunner ($3.350m)
Gustav Nyquist ($2.200m) / Joakim Andersson ($1.000m) / Tomas Tatar ($0.840m)
Viktor Stalberg ($1.500m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m)
Drew Miller ($1.350m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)
DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)
Danny DeKeyser ($1.350m) / Zach Bogosian ($4.500m)
Jakub Kindl ($2.400m) / Brendan Smith ($1.500m)
Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m)
OTHER
Buyout: Mikael Samuelsson ($0.000m)
Buyout: Carlo Colaiacovo ($0.000m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,694,545; BONUSES: $1,010,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $615,455

[Chicktube 1]

In all reality wouldn't this be the most likely roster, first time doing this so not sure if i screwed up anything.

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Johan Franzen ($3.955m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)
Gustav Nyquist ($0.788m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Damien Brunner ($1.350m)
Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m)
Drew Miller ($1.350m) / Joakim Andersson ($0.605m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m)
Cory Emmerton ($0.533m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)
Kyle Quincey ($3.775m) / Jakub Kindl ($2.400m)
Danny DeKeyser ($1.350m) / Brendan Smith ($0.827m)
Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m)
OTHER
Buyout: Mikael Samuelsson ($1.000m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $56,232,254; BONUSES: $850,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $8,917,746

[FlashyG 1,799]

Tatar is definitely going to be a part of the Wings next season.

I also think that if they let Flip go and buyout Sammy they will absolutely add a center to play on the 2nd line.

[Chicktube 1]

Only one person i can see you replacing for tatar would be eaves imo

[_SP_ 129]

I think that the Red Wings sign Lecavalier to a modest contract. With him still getting paid by the Lightning, I believe that he will rank environment and chance to win another Cup above a huge payday. He's got his money guaranteed; so 2-year, $4M/yr sounds like a fair deal to me. If he wants to play for the Red Wings, then there's no point paying top-dollar. I believe he'll either come to Detroit or go to Montreal. Either way, both teams will probably be able to sign him without breaking the bank.

Next, I think the Red Wings swing a trade with Buffalo for RW Drew Stafford. Stafford, according to rumors, has been trying to get out of Buffalo since before the trade deadline. It's clear they're trying to rebuild again and I can't see him wanting to stick around for another project. For the 6'2", 200lb right winger, the Red Wings send LW Johan Franzen (comparable contracts), C Riley Sheahan, RW Martin Frk, and a 2014 3rd Round Pick to the Sabres. This trade allows the Red Wings to avoid a decision to buyout Franzen next year (while easing the burden on the logjam at LW) and the Sabres pick up a potential top-six RW, a 2nd-line winger, and a pick next year. The cupboard is bare when it comes to top-flight wingers for the Sabres and Frk would fit nicely into their rebuilding plan. Sheahan needs to get out of Detroit's system after his arrest. I can't believe he's still with the organization after the video went viral, but a new beginning gives him a fresh start and a solid chance at making a 2013/2014 roster.

The team trades D Colaiacovo for a 2013 5th Round pick, while it uses one Compliance Buyout on winger Mikael Samuelsson and one Ordinary Buyout on winger Todd Bertuzzi. Neither player could be traded during the draft and their contracts don't fit with the Red Wings' plan.

Kenny Holland has stated that he wants to bring in a top-4 defensemen (likely an offense-oriented right-handed guy), but short of moving Kyle Quincey's contract, I don't see how that happens. Maybe something comes along after the season starts (trade deadline?), but for now, I think one big signing and one big trade is enough.

The team re-signs most of it's restricted free agents (LW Nyquist, D Smith, C Andersson) to three-year deals while signing unrestricted free agent RW Damien Brunner to a 2-year, $3.2M contract. Everything else stays the same.

So the Red Wings finally get to pair Zetterberg with Datsyuk for good while adding a right-handed power forward next to them who can score himself. Lacavalier and Abdelkader make for a big second line. Lacavalier organizes the offense, Abdelkader blinds the goalie, and Brunner looks for the open, wicked shot on goal. The young kids give the Red Wings an impressive third line full of speed and skill. The fourth line, orchestrated by a healthy Darren Helm, gives the team a physical, defense-oriented line with Miller and Eaves flanking the rejuvenated center. Emmerton and Tootoo round out the roster.

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Drew Stafford ($4.000m)
Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($4.000m) / Damien Brunner ($3.200m)
Gustav Nyquist ($2.175m) / Joakim Andersson ($1.875m) / Tomas Tatar ($0.840m)
Drew Miller ($1.350m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m)
Cory Emmerton ($0.533m) / Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m)
DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)
Kyle Quincey ($3.775m) / Jakub Kindl ($2.400m)
Danny DeKeyser ($1.350m) / Brendan Smith ($1.900m)
Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m)
OTHER
Buyout: Todd Bertuzzi ($0.625m)
Buyout: Mikael Samuelsson ($0.000m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,348,333; BONUSES: $1,010,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,961,667

Edited June 29, 2013 by _SP_

[dirtydangles 1,328]

I think that the Red Wings sign Lecavalier to a modest contract. With him still getting paid by the Lightning, I believe that he will rank environment and chance to win another Cup above a huge payday. He's got his money guaranteed; so 2-year, $4M/yr sounds like a fair deal to me. If he wants to play for the Red Wings, then there's no point paying top-dollar. I believe he'll either come to Detroit or go to Montreal. Either way, both teams will probably be able to sign him without breaking the bank.

Next, I think the Red Wings swing a trade with Buffalo for RW Drew Stafford. Stafford, according to rumors, has been trying to get out of Buffalo since before the trade deadline. It's clear they're trying to rebuild again and I can't see him wanting to stick around for another project. For the 6'2", 200lb right winger, the Red Wings send LW Johan Franzen (comparable contracts), C Riley Sheahan, RW Martin Frk, and a 2014 3rd Round Pick to the Sabres. This trade allows the Red Wings to avoid a decision to buyout Franzen next year (while easing the burden on the logjam at LW) and the Sabres pick up a potential top-six RW, a 2nd-line winger, and a pick next year. The cupboard is bare when it comes to top-flight wingers for the Sabres and Frk would fit nicely into their rebuilding plan. Sheahan needs to get out of Detroit's system after his arrest. I can't believe he's still with the organization after the video went viral, but a new beginning gives him a fresh start and a solid chance at making a 2013/2014 roster.

The team trades D Colaiacovo for a 2013 5th Round pick, while it uses one Compliance Buyout on winger Mikael Samuelsson and one Ordinary Buyout on winger Todd Bertuzzi. Neither player could be traded during the draft and their contracts don't fit with the Red Wings' plan.

Kenny Holland has stated that he wants to bring in a top-4 defensemen (likely an offense-oriented right-handed guy), but short of moving Kyle Quincey's contract, I don't see how that happens. Maybe something comes along after the season starts (trade deadline?), but for now, I think one big signing and one big trade is enough.

The team re-signs most of it's restricted free agents (LW Nyquist, D Smith, C Andersson) to three-year deals while signing unrestricted free agent RW Damien Brunner to a 2-year, $3.2M contract. Everything else stays the same.

So the Red Wings finally get to pair Zetterberg with Datsyuk for good while adding a right-handed power forward next to them who can score himself. Lacavalier and Abdelkader make for a big second line. Lacavalier organizes the offense, Abdelkader blinds the goalie, and Brunner looks for the open, wicked shot on goal. The young kids give the Red Wings an impressive third line full of speed and skill. The fourth line, orchestrated by a healthy Darren Helm, gives the team a physical, defense-oriented line with Miller and Eaves flanking the rejuvenated center. Emmerton and Tootoo round out the roster.

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER

My Custom Lineup

FORWARDS

Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Drew Stafford ($4.000m)

Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($4.000m) / Damien Brunner ($3.200m)

Gustav Nyquist ($2.175m) / Joakim Andersson ($1.875m) / Tomas Tatar ($0.840m)

Drew Miller ($1.350m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m)

Cory Emmerton ($0.533m) / Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m)

DEFENSEMEN

Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)

Kyle Quincey ($3.775m) / Jakub Kindl ($2.400m)

Danny DeKeyser ($1.350m) / Brendan Smith ($1.900m)

Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) /

GOALTENDERS

Jimmy Howard ($5.292m)

Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m)

OTHER

Buyout: Todd Bertuzzi ($0.625m)

Buyout: Mikael Samuelsson ($0.000m)

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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)

(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)

SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,348,333; BONUSES: $1,010,000

CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,961,667

You lost me at Stafford. You would give all that for STAFFORD? You have got to be kidding me. I wouldnt give Frk alone for him let alone a great centre prospect a 3rd rounder AND Franzen? Edited June 29, 2013 by dirtydangles

[Travis 576]

You lost me at Stafford. You would give all that for STAFFORD? You have got to be kidding me. I wouldnt give Frk alone for him let alone a great centre prospect a 3rd rounder AND Franzen?

This. That's a king's ransom.

[dirtydangles 1,328]

This. That's a king's ransom.

I would almost expect vanek for that much.

[SaCkaveli20 275]

The Axe takes over. Bye Kenny. Get er done, Axe.

1) Buys out Samuelsson and Bertuzzi

2) Parts ways with UFA's Filppula, Brunner, and White

3)Trades Howard, Colaoccovo, and 2014 First Round pick to Buffalo for Thomas Vanek

4) Trades Helm, Quincey, Franzen, Tootoo, First Round pick in 2015, First Round pick in 2016 for Henrik Sedin and Daniel Sedin

5) Signs Vanek to 3 year extension at 7 mil per

6) Signs H Sedin to 3 year extension at 6.5 mil per

7) Signs D Sedin to 3 year extension at 6.5 mil per

Abdelkader (2) - Dats (7.5) - Vanek (7)

Sedin (6.5) - Sedin (6.5) - Zetterberg (6)

Tatar(1.5) - Andersson (1.5) - Nyquist (1.5)

Miller (1.25) - Emmerton (.75) - Eaves (1.25)

Sheahan (.75) - Pulkinnen (.75)

Kronwall (5.5) - Ericsson (3)

Dekeyser (2) - Kindl (2)

Lashoff (.75) - Smith (2)

Almquist (.75)

Mrazek (1.25)

McCollum (.75)

Payroll = 63 mil.

Cap Space = 1.3 mil.

All that and you Mrazek starting? ouch...We'd be a poor man's version of the Penguins..

[matthewdanna 143]

Here's what I'd love to see going into next year (Note - not the line combo's but the personnel) The salaries might be a little high or low in places, but I think its conceivable we could ice this line-up with cap space to spare, especially if we trade Tootoo, then Emmerton would be one of the utility forwards.

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER

My Custom Lineup

FORWARDS

Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Gustav Nyquist ($1.200m)

Johan Franzen ($3.955m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($6.000m) / Damien Brunner ($3.350m)

Tomas Tatar ($0.840m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)

Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) / Joakim Andersson ($1.000m) / Drew Miller ($1.350m)

Patrick Eaves ($1.200m) / Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m)

DEFENSEMEN

Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)

Kyle Quincey ($3.775m) / Brendan Smith ($1.750m)

Danny DeKeyser ($1.350m) / Jakub Kindl ($1.500m)

Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) /

GOALTENDERS

Jimmy Howard ($5.292m)

Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m)

OTHER

Buyout: Mikael Samuelsson ($0.000m)

Buyout: Carlo Colaiacovo ($0.000m)

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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)

(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)

SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,469,545; BONUSES: $1,010,000

CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,840,455

We are on the same page my friend

[Guest The Axe]

All that and you Mrazek starting? ouch...We'd be a poor man's version of the Penguins..

Yah. Its a 4 year window. Then rebuild.

[FlashyG 1,799]

Even with all that added firepower I doubt we go anywhere with that goalie combo.

It was only slightly above average in the AHL, and McCollum struggled even at the ECHL level.

Mrazek might be able to carry the load in a few years, but he's not ready for an NHL starting job yet.

[Guest The Axe]

Even with all that added firepower I doubt we go anywhere with that goalie combo.

It was only slightly above average in the AHL, and McCollum struggled even at the ECHL level.

Mrazek might be able to carry the load in a few years, but he's not ready for an NHL starting job yet.

You are my aasistant GM. Are you saying no?

[FlashyG 1,799]

haha

You are my aasistant GM. Are you saying no?

As assistant GM I'm requesting that you at least get a back-up goalie to replace McCollum. Mrazek might surprise me, but at least then you'd have someone capable of giving him some nights off.

[Guest The Axe]

haha

As assistant GM I'm requesting that you at least get a back-up goalie to replace McCollum. Mrazek might surprise me, but at least then you'd have someone capable of giving him some nights off.

Ok. Im working on a deal for Bryz at 1.25 mil per for 4 seasons.

[FlashyG 1,799]

that would be a HUMAANGAS BEEG signing.

Good luck in your negotiations

Edited June 30, 2013 by FlashyG

[Guest The Axe]

that would be a HUMAANGAS BEEG signing.

Good luck in your negotiations

Im close!!!

[wingsfan4795 552]

Im close!!!

Try throwing in a thermos

[poel 28]

FORWARDS
Tomas Tatar ($0.840m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Nathan Horton ($6.000m)
Gustav Nyquist ($1.500m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Damien Brunner ($3.000m)
Danny Cleary ($2.000m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($4.800m) / Tomas Jurco ($0.925m)
Drew Miller ($1.350m) / Cory Emmerton ($0.533m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m)
Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Danny DeKeyser ($1.350m) / Kris Letang ($3.500m)
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Keith Yandle ($5.250m)
Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) / Jakub Kindl ($2.400m)
Carlo Colaiacovo ($2.500m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m)
Petr Mrazek ($0.790m)
OTHER
Buyout: Mikael Samuelsson ($0.000m)
Buyout: Jordin Tootoo ($0.000m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $65,688,333; BONUSES: $1,412,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $24,167

New try. Think that would be an impressive team. If we need a tough guy, lets call up Callahan. This kid sure is NHL-ready. Want to keep Bert and Helm. They could help the team if they're ready to go.

The D would be one of the best in the league. Even Letang would learn to play solid if Babcock's his coach.

Let Filppula walk and waive Gustavsson.

Trades. Maybe not realistic:

- Letang for Quincey, Smith and the 2014 1st rounder

- Yandle for Franzen and Ericsson

- Horton for Andersson

- whatever for Filppula

Edited June 30, 2013 by poel

[ZigZagYourTorso 8]

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m)
Johan Franzen ($3.955m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($5.250m) / Damien Brunner ($2.800m)
Gustav Nyquist ($1.700m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Tomas Tatar ($0.840m)
Drew Miller ($1.350m) / Joakim Andersson ($1.200m) / Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m)
Patrick Eaves ($1.200m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)
Danny DeKeyser ($1.350m) / Zach Bogosian ($4.650m)
Kyle Quincey ($3.775m) / Jakub Kindl ($2.400m)
Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m)
OTHER
Buyout: Mikael Samuelsson ($0.000m)
Buyout: Todd Bertuzzi ($0.000m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,594,545; BONUSES: $1,010,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $715,455

This is the best and most realistic lineup I could come up with. The only part about it that might be unrealistic is making a trade for Bogosian. I figured something around Smith, a good pick, and one of our top 5 prospects might get it done if they're having issues signing him.

[Chicktube 1]

As much as i love the idea of clearly not being in the line-up, kenny and bab wont let him walk. They like him too much.

[poel 28]

As much as i love the idea of clearly not being in the line-up, kenny and bab wont let him walk. They like him too much.

Forgot him. I want to keep Cleary if he signs for 2.00 or a little less...think he's better than Abdelkader. Very solid and experienced forward. Played good during the playoffs.

[Guest The Axe]

Forgot him. I want to keep Cleary if he signs for 2.00 or a little less...think he's better than Abdelkader. Very solid and experienced forward. Played good during the playoffs.

Cleary is worth 2 mil per.

[_SP_ 129]

You lost me at Stafford. You would give all that for STAFFORD? You have got to be kidding me. I wouldnt give Frk alone for him let alone a great centre prospect a 3rd rounder AND Franzen?

This. That's a king's ransom.

I would almost expect vanek for that much.

They're assuming Franzen's contract. Just getting a replacement-level player for that would require the team to chip in a prospect. In my opinion, Sheahan's gotta go. He'll run out of waiver options before the team has an opening, especially with Jarnkrok coming and Andersson coming into his own. And he's got a bad rep with at least one inside scout that I'm familiar with.

Nonetheless, here's one thing I try to do when making out a roster: Never short-change the opposition. It's more realistic to give up too much in a mock and be kindly surprised than to suggest another team would give up a really good player for next to nothing. At least you all reading the mock would get an understanding of what I'm trying to do without blowing it off for creating a fantasy roster without any stipulations. My initial offer to the team would be Franzen and Sheahan for Stafford. That's a top-six lefty for a top-six righty. That's a 33-year-old with an extensive contract and a solid center prospect for a 27-year-old with a team-friendly contract. Numbers come into play with deals like this. Franzen has another seven years on his contract- that's a huge responsibility for a team to assume, especially one that's rebuilding. I figure in this scenario the Sabres buy him out after the following year. Making an owner assume another team's $15 million responsibility likely requires a lot more than just a center prospect. Which is where Frk and the pick come into play.