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#101 Z Winged Dangler

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 07:55 AM

Ya I agree. Too many people only care about big names or guys that score a lot. But we really don't need a big name we need guys that contribute in several ways like scoring and a physical precense.

Trade the rights to Flip, Quincey and Pulkkinen to Dallas for Loui Eriksson. Reunite Mule-Z-Eriksson.


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 08:24 AM

FORWARDS
Alexander Radulov ($) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Gustav Nyquist ($1.500m)
Johan Franzen ($3,955m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Damien Brunner ($2.000m)
Tomas Tatar ($0.840m) / Joakim Andersson ($1.500m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)
Cory Emmerton ($0,533m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Drew Miller ($)

DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Danny DeKeyser ($1.350m)
Jakub Kindl ($1.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson  ($3.250m)
Carlo Colaiacovo ($2.500m) / Brendan Smith ($1.250m)
Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m)


Edited by Cloune, 13 June 2013 - 08:26 AM.


#103 Z Winged Dangler

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 10:03 AM

FORWARDS
Alexander Radulov ($) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Gustav Nyquist ($1.500m)
Johan Franzen ($3,955m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Damien Brunner ($2.000m)
Tomas Tatar ($0.840m) / Joakim Andersson ($1.500m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)
Cory Emmerton ($0,533m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Drew Miller ($)

DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Danny DeKeyser ($1.350m)
Jakub Kindl ($1.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson  ($3.250m)
Carlo Colaiacovo ($2.500m) / Brendan Smith ($1.250m)
Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m)

Radulov is a drunk ass party slob with a terrible attitude.  No thanks dude.  If that was our only line up change I'd barf in my mouth. 


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 10:19 AM

Lot's of turnover and roster space clearing + 3 key signings. This roster would, at least, be Conference Finals quality.

 

Disclaimer: Never going to happen with the way the Wings operate, but nothing about this roster is fantasy.

 

Buyouts:

Sammy, Bert

 

Trades:

Cola for a 4th rd pick

Quincey for a 3rd rd pick or prospect

 

Let walk:

Filpulla, Cleary, Miller, White

 

FORWARDS
Johan Franzen ($3.955m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / David  Clarkson ($5.500m)
Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Steven Weiss ($4.500m) / Tomas Tatar ($0.840m)
Gustav Nyquist ($1.500m) / Joakim Andersson ($1.500m)/ Damien Brunner ($2.800m)
Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m)
Cory Emmerton ($0.533m) / Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m)

 

DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)
Brendan Smith ($1.500m) / Rob  Scuderi ($4.500m)
Danny DeKeyser ($1.350m) / Jakub Kindl ($1.500m)
Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) /
 

GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m)
 

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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $65,302,879; BONUSES: $1,010,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $7,121


Edited by rick zombo, 13 June 2013 - 10:20 AM.

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#105 Z Winged Dangler

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 01:24 PM

Lot's of turnover and roster space clearing + 3 key signings. This roster would, at least, be Conference Finals quality.

 

Disclaimer: Never going to happen with the way the Wings operate, but nothing about this roster is fantasy.

 

Buyouts:

Sammy, Bert

 

Trades:

Cola for a 4th rd pick

Quincey for a 3rd rd pick or prospect

 

Let walk:

Filpulla, Cleary, Miller, White

 

FORWARDS
Johan Franzen ($3.955m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / David  Clarkson ($5.500m)
Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Steven Weiss ($4.500m) / Tomas Tatar ($0.840m)
Gustav Nyquist ($1.500m) / Joakim Andersson ($1.500m)/ Damien Brunner ($2.800m)
Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m)
Cory Emmerton ($0.533m) / Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m)

 

DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)
Brendan Smith ($1.500m) / Rob  Scuderi ($4.500m)
Danny DeKeyser ($1.350m) / Jakub Kindl ($1.500m)
Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) /
 

GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m)
 

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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $65,302,879; BONUSES: $1,010,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $7,121

I like the roster, but Weiss and Scuderi should each get about 3.5 mil.  And that isn't really that far fetched, but the Kings will fight hard to keep Scuderi around.   


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 01:43 PM

I like the roster, but Weiss and Scuderi should each get about 3.5 mil.  And that isn't really that far fetched, but the Kings will fight hard to keep Scuderi around.   

 

Weiss currently makes about 3.1 million.  In his last four season (before this year's injury plagued go around) he scored 60, 60, 49, and 57 pts.  He's also coming off three straight 20+ goals seasons as well.  He'll get considerably more than 3.5, given that most people think Filppula will get around five and he doesn't have Weiss's stats.  Plus, Weiss plays good defense, kills penalties, and plays on the PP.  I don't think it's a stretch for him to get 5.5 in a bad UFA class (like this one).  Hell Gabrovski and Hemsky make that and they don't have half the all around game that Weiss has. 


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#107 rick zombo

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 02:03 PM

I like the roster, but Weiss and Scuderi should each get about 3.5 mil.  And that isn't really that far fetched, but the Kings will fight hard to keep Scuderi around.   

 

Which is why a team like Detroit will have to overpay to get him.

 

Same as Weiss.


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 03:34 PM

Trade the rights to Flip, Quincey and Pulkkinen to Dallas for Loui Eriksson. Reunite Mule-Z-Eriksson.

 

Is this a joke? Eriksson is virtually untouchable, and for good reason: he's a defensively-responsible player who can score 40 goals and takes very few penalties. If you think that package is enough to entice Nill to trade him, then you're wrong.



I like the roster, but Weiss and Scuderi should each get about 3.5 mil.  And that isn't really that far fetched, but the Kings will fight hard to keep Scuderi around.   

 

Have you not been paying attention for the past several offseasons? Salaries are going up.



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Posted 13 June 2013 - 05:02 PM

FORWARDS
Alexander Radulov ($) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Gustav Nyquist ($1.500m)
Johan Franzen ($3,955m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Damien Brunner ($2.000m)
Tomas Tatar ($0.840m) / Joakim Andersson ($1.500m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)
Cory Emmerton ($0,533m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Drew Miller ($)

DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Danny DeKeyser ($1.350m)
Jakub Kindl ($1.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson  ($3.250m)
Carlo Colaiacovo ($2.500m) / Brendan Smith ($1.250m)
Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m)

 

Radulov is under contract in the KHL for a few more years at over 9 million a season.

 

He can't be signed by an NHL team and even if he could the cost to get him would be a Max contract.



Lot's of turnover and roster space clearing + 3 key signings. This roster would, at least, be Conference Finals quality.

 

Disclaimer: Never going to happen with the way the Wings operate, but nothing about this roster is fantasy.

 

Buyouts:

Sammy, Bert

 

Trades:

Cola for a 4th rd pick

Quincey for a 3rd rd pick or prospect

 

Let walk:

Filpulla, Cleary, Miller, White

 

FORWARDS
Johan Franzen ($3.955m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / David  Clarkson ($5.500m)
Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Steven Weiss ($4.500m) / Tomas Tatar ($0.840m)
Gustav Nyquist ($1.500m) / Joakim Andersson ($1.500m)/ Damien Brunner ($2.800m)
Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m)
Cory Emmerton ($0.533m) / Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m)

 

DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)
Brendan Smith ($1.500m) / Rob  Scuderi ($4.500m)
Danny DeKeyser ($1.350m) / Jakub Kindl ($1.500m)
Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) /
 

GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m)
 

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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $65,302,879; BONUSES: $1,010,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $7,121

 

Going into a season with 7 thousand dollars of cap space is definitely fantasy.

 

If you left it at 2 Free agents I think you'd have a far more realistic roster.



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 11:07 AM

 

And Dan Cleary was washed up when he joined the Wings.

 

Dan Cleary was a down-on-his-luck player who had a ton of talent but had not yet managed to thrive. He earned himself a tryout and then a league-minimum contract by working his ass off in training camp, then another, two-year contract by working his ass off in his first season, and finally a larger contract by playing his heart out for the next two seasons.

 

I don't see your point.



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 11:17 AM

So some of these will need to be amended with the Miller signing.


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 01:09 PM

FORWARDS
Johan Franzen ($3.955m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m)
Damien Brunner ($2.550m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Bryan Bickell ($1.542m)
Gustav Nyquist ($0.901m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Tomas Tatar ($0.840m)
Drew Miller ($1.350m) / Joakim Andersson ($0.875m) / Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m)
DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)
Danny DeKeyser ($1.350m) / Kyle Quincey ($3.775m)
Jakub Kindl ($1.050m) / Brendan Smith ($0.901m)
Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m)


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#113 The Axe

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Posted 16 June 2013 - 09:56 PM

Do we make a play at overpaying Horton? I think OUR price is 7 million per.

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Posted 16 June 2013 - 10:39 PM

Do we make a play at overpaying Horton? I think OUR price is 7 million per.

Why would we pay Horton more than we are paying Z?



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Posted 16 June 2013 - 11:13 PM

Not to toot my own horn or anything buuuuuuuut......

 

I was leaning toward the REALIST side of things....

...Now if I wanted to say, blow my load, you can add on David Clarkson for about 4.5 million/yr x4 years.  Or if holland caught the PIT GM on a day where he was smoking crack (Like the day we got Hasek from Buffalo), Malkin, 8.7/year and probably 9.5+ after that.


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Posted 17 June 2013 - 12:01 AM

In the words of Nelson...

 

 

He ain't going that cheap.

 

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 12:09 AM

FORWARDS
Johan Franzen ($3.955m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m)
Damien Brunner ($2.550m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Bryan Bickell ($1.542m)
Gustav Nyquist ($0.901m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Tomas Tatar ($0.840m)
Drew Miller ($1.350m) / Joakim Andersson ($0.875m) / Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m)
DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)
Danny DeKeyser ($1.350m) / Kyle Quincey ($3.775m)
Jakub Kindl ($1.050m) / Brendan Smith ($0.901m)
Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m)

 

After the postseason he's had, there's not the faintest chance that Bickell will get only $1.542m (that's a fairly arbitrary number, by the way). He'll get paid, just like Umberger was after his 2008 playoff performance.



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 12:29 AM

 
After the postseason he's had, there's not the faintest chance that Bickell will get only $1.542m (that's a fairly arbitrary number, by the way). He'll get paid, just like Umberger was after his 2008 playoff performance.


Exactly. Bickell will command 3 to 4 mil. Horton 6 to 7 mil.

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Posted 18 June 2013 - 03:31 PM

I like the roster, but Weiss and Scuderi should each get about 3.5 mil.  And that isn't really that far fetched, but the Kings will fight hard to keep Scuderi around.   

 

Kings just re-up voynov for 4.1 a season. gonna make it tough keep scuderi now. theyll have about 7.6mil to sign 9 guys. maybe theyll give up a forward? williams or brown? both are getting towards end of contracts. Id love williams.


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Posted 18 June 2013 - 03:53 PM

 

After the postseason he's had, there's not the faintest chance that Bickell will get only $1.542m (that's a fairly arbitrary number, by the way). He'll get paid, just like Umberger was after his 2008 playoff performance.

 

Yeah, no way in hell.  He basically established himself as a poor man's version of David Clarkson.  Granted, he has very little previous track record to back that up, and by "poor man" I mean "guy who will still make at least $3 million next year", but yeah.

 

Bickell's stock went WAY up these Playoffs.  All that stuff that LGW'ers claim Jordin Tootoo does for Detroit (or, um, would do if he wasn't a healthy scratch), Bickell actually DOES, and he did it against Detroit.  6'4", 223lb, the heart to go to the front of the net, and a face that looks simultaneously unhinged and determined at the same time.  Even better, he averages around 40-50 PIM per year, so he seems to avoid the cheap stuff (by and large).

 

Still, I think the market for him will be so competitive (especially if Clarkson goes first) that whatever price he actually goes for will be a bit too much.







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