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#41 wingslogo19

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 12:38 PM

I voted for Clarkson


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#42 LeftWinger

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 12:39 PM

The cool thing is we have no clue on what Holland will do! He could surprise us all or totally s*** the bed...

 

If it come down to no trades and only UFA, I like the Ryder and Penner idea along with Weiss.  But would most definitely require BOTH buyouts and a traded player(s) for a pick.

 

In this scenario, I bought out Bertuzzi and Sammy, and traded Q and Emmy at the draft for an extra pick or two....then sign Weiss, Penner and Ryder.  Salaries are just a guess, they may get more....

 

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My Custom Lineup

 

FORWARDS
Michael Ryder ($3.000m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m)
Johan Franzen ($3.955m) / Stephen Weiss ($3.750m) / Dustin Penner ($2.750m)
Gustav Nyquist ($0.950m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Damien Brunner ($2.250m)
Tomas Tatar ($0.840m) / Joakim Andersson ($0.950m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m)
Patrick Eaves ($1.200m) / Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m) /

 

DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)
Danny DeKeyser ($1.350m) / Jakub Kindl ($1.050m)
Carlo Colaiacovo ($2.500m) / Brendan Smith ($0.950m)
Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) /

 

GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m)

 

OTHER
Buyout: Todd Bertuzzi ($0.000m)
Buyout: Mikael Samuelsson ($0.000m)

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(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $59,619,545; BONUSES: $1,010,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $5,690,455

 

 

(ya ya, I know, even though I cannot stand Franzen and wish upon wishes he gets dealt somewhere, I honestly don't think he will so I left him in this scenario.) Also note that there is nearly $6M available in cap space if those three guys cost a bit more than I put in...


Edited by LeftWinger, 05 June 2013 - 12:44 PM.

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 02:07 PM

Clarkson, Clowe, and Horton are the guys we should be targeting. Clarkson being the #1 option.

-Mason Raymond provides a lot of speed, but he's soft as butter and can't win any puck battles along the boards. Pass.
-Michael Ryder would be an interesting acquisition. He doesn't seem to stick with many teams for long, though, which is a concern. I'm on the fence with Ryder.
-I hate Ribeiro. He provides an offensive threat, but I question how much longer he'll be able to put up numbers. Diving piece of sheet. Pass.
-Guys like Iginla and Morrow would've been nice to have as top 6 forwards like 5 years ago, but they're both past their prime. I'd take either for the 3rd line, though.
-Pascal Dupuis is putting up the numbers he is because of his linemates in Pittsburgh. Also starting to age. Pass.
-Dustin Penner had the potential to be a power forward, but he's just not aggressive enough. On top of that, he's got the reputation for laziness. We don't need another Franzen. Pass.
-Bryan Bickell is an interesting option. Still young. Plays a relatively physical style. Seems to be picking up the offensive side of his game. Fake tough guy, but I wouldn't be opposed to him here.
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Posted 05 June 2013 - 02:15 PM

Clarkson, Clowe, and Horton are the guys we should be targeting. Clarkson being the #1 option.

-Mason Raymond provides a lot of speed, but he's soft as butter and can't win any puck battles along the boards. Pass.
-Michael Ryder would be an interesting acquisition. He doesn't seem to stick with many teams for long, though, which is a concern. I'm on the fence with Ryder.
-I hate Ribeiro. He provides an offensive threat, but I question how much longer he'll be able to put up numbers. Diving piece of sheet. Pass.
-Guys like Iginla and Morrow would've been nice to have as top 6 forwards like 5 years ago, but they're both past their prime. I'd take either for the 3rd line, though.
-Pascal Dupuis is putting up the numbers he is because of his linemates in Pittsburgh. Also starting to age. Pass.
-Dustin Penner had the potential to be a power forward, but he's just not aggressive enough. On top of that, he's got the reputation for laziness. We don't need another Franzen. Pass.
-Bryan Bickell is an interesting option. Still young. Plays a relatively physical style. Seems to be picking up the offensive side of his game. Fake tough guy, but I wouldn't be opposed to him here.

Penner has scored less in the last 3 years put together than Franzen has this year. To call him another Franzen is ignorant.

Iginla for the 3rd line??? He would have been 3rd on the Wings in scoring (33 points), 3rd amongst Wings forwards in hits (65), the toughest fighter on the team and provide veteran leadership


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 02:22 PM

Penner has scored less in the last 3 years put together than Franzen has this year. To call him another Franzen is ignorant.

Pretty sure Penner has been injured quite a bit in that timespan. Franzen has the potential to be a power forward. He decides to be a floating wuss, instead. Similar to Penner.

Edited by Bring Back The Bruise Bros, 05 June 2013 - 02:23 PM.

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 02:28 PM

 
:slap:  You shut your mouth when you are talking to us! :D


I know its not what you want to hear, but its realistic. We like our team!!!

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 02:32 PM

Pretty sure Penner has been injured quite a bit in that timespan. Franzen has the potential to be a power forward. He decides to be a floating wuss, instead. Similar to Penner.

So has Franzen. He has played in 117 games in those 3 years and scored 11 goals, Franzen scored 14 in 41 this year.. Franzen is one of our biggest and most physical forwards as well as our best goal scorer.
It's ridicKulous to say Penner is another Franzen.



I know its not what you want to hear, but its realistic. We like our team!!!

It's too bad you can't appreciate being lucky (or are you a bandwagoner?) enough to be a fan of the best sports organization in North America(maybe the world) over the last 3 decades. But go ahead and continue to ***** and whine.

I love our team.


Edited by Johnz96, 05 June 2013 - 02:39 PM.


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 03:43 PM

So has Franzen. He has played in 117 games in those 3 years and scored 11 goals, Franzen scored 14 in 41 this year.. Franzen is one of our biggest and most physical forwards as well as our best goal scorer.
It's ridicKulous to say Penner is another Franzen.



It's too bad you can't appreciate being lucky (or are you a bandwagoner?) enough to be a fan of the best sports organization in North America(maybe the world) over the last 3 decades. But go ahead and continue to ***** and whine.

I love our team.

 

Penner is not another Franzen, but in NO WAY is Franzen our most physical forward...or even one of them...I love this team too, but I love it even more without Franzen, its time for a change. Every year I say maybe this year 08-09 Franzen will show up, every year I hope that playoff Franzen will show up...every year for the past 4 years, I have been disappointed in him more and more.  I want him gone, but in reality it won't happen.  Fine, it just gives me the whipping boy.

 

 

...and if Cleary is re-signed, I will absolutely barf....like totally!

 

edit: IMO, if Holland thinks that icing the same team next season is going to spell success in the East, he has got a rude awakening coming.  The team was totally healthy in the pre-season, then the wheels fell off.  If he doesn't think its not going to happen again, then he is crazy.  Sammy, if retained, will not play more than 20 games.  Bertuzzi will be lucky to get 25.  Cola is bound to get injured again, as is Quincey.  Franzen is always good for at least 10 with a bad back, and so is Zetterberg.  Changes are needed.  If he just re-signs Cleary, Filppula and doesn't buy anyone out, his team is doomed...


Edited by LeftWinger, 05 June 2013 - 03:47 PM.

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 04:41 PM

So has Franzen. He has played in 117 games in those 3 years and scored 11 goals, Franzen scored 14 in 41 this year.. Franzen is one of our biggest and most physical forwards as well as our best goal scorer.
It's ridicKulous to say Penner is another Franzen.


It's too bad you can't appreciate being lucky (or are you a bandwagoner?) enough to be a fan of the best sports organization in North America(maybe the world) over the last 3 decades. But go ahead and continue to ***** and whine.
I love our team.


I want to see that continue.

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 06:35 PM

 

Penner is not another Franzen, but in NO WAY is Franzen our most physical forward...or even one of them...I love this team too, but I love it even more without Franzen, its time for a change. Every year I say maybe this year 08-09 Franzen will show up, every year I hope that playoff Franzen will show up...every year for the past 4 years, I have been disappointed in him more and more.  I want him gone, but in reality it won't happen.  Fine, it just gives me the whipping boy.

 

 

...and if Cleary is re-signed, I will absolutely barf....like totally!

 

edit: IMO, if Holland thinks that icing the same team next season is going to spell success in the East, he has got a rude awakening coming.  The team was totally healthy in the pre-season, then the wheels fell off.  If he doesn't think its not going to happen again, then he is crazy.  Sammy, if retained, will not play more than 20 games.  Bertuzzi will be lucky to get 25.  Cola is bound to get injured again, as is Quincey.  Franzen is always good for at least 10 with a bad back, and so is Zetterberg.  Changes are needed.  If he just re-signs Cleary, Filppula and doesn't buy anyone out, his team is doomed...

I really hope he makes some space (cap and on the roster) for a big physical guy who can score more than Abby. I would be thrilled with any of Iginla, Horton, Clarkson, Bickell or Dupuis. I too think we would be better by subtraction at forward.
I said Franzen is one of our most physical forwards he hits sometimes (even gets a few pretty good ones ) and battles in the corners and along the boards and goes to the net (we have scored at least a few goals these playoffs with him screening the goalie). If he were the beast he could be he would be more expensive and would risk even more injury problems than he already has had.

Zetterberg has only missed 4 games the last 3 years combined



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Posted 06 June 2013 - 02:52 PM

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3 teams interested in Jimmie Ericsson from Sweden. He's our Ericsson's brother so I wouldnr be surprised if we're one of the three. He's 6'2', 212lbs and described as a gritty forward who likes to go into the hard areas. The downside is that he's 33 years old.

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He could be a cheap solution if we strike out on some of the popular free agents

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 09:13 AM

So, heard a stat today about Horton. Boston hasn't lost a series he has played in. He was hurt last year when they lost.

 

He also has 34 points in 37 playoff games, and a +32!!!! That is insane playoff hockey.

 

I guess I posted here cause I was getting the impression from other threads that people were so ga ga over BIckell instead of players like this... c'mon man. I am not sure Bickell current play has gotten him to the Horton level of salary yet, since Horton is doing just as well, but if both were equal, you'd be crazy to choose Bickell over Horton.



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Posted 11 June 2013 - 10:33 AM

So, heard a stat today about Horton. Boston hasn't lost a series he has played in. He was hurt last year when they lost.

 

He also has 34 points in 37 playoff games, and a +32!!!! That is insane playoff hockey.

 

I guess I posted here cause I was getting the impression from other threads that people were so ga ga over BIckell instead of players like this... c'mon man. I am not sure Bickell current play has gotten him to the Horton level of salary yet, since Horton is doing just as well, but if both were equal, you'd be crazy to choose Bickell over Horton.

Why Would you be crazy to pick Bickell over Horton? Bickell is a lot more physical, doesn't have concussion issues, will be more affordable and has never before had the opportunity to produce like he is getting now. What was Horton doing during the regular season? Floating? He hits less often than Franzen.



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Posted 11 June 2013 - 05:23 PM

So, heard a stat today about Horton. Boston hasn't lost a series he has played in. He was hurt last year when they lost.
 
He also has 34 points in 37 playoff games, and a +32!!!! That is insane playoff hockey.
 
I guess I posted here cause I was getting the impression from other threads that people were so ga ga over BIckell instead of players like this... c'mon man. I am not sure Bickell current play has gotten him to the Horton level of salary yet, since Horton is doing just as well, but if both were equal, you'd be crazy to choose Bickell over Horton.

Horton would ne great if your willing to for up 6mill+ per year for likely several years. Not sure Detroit can afford that unless they buy guys out or trade. I would love Horton though

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 05:52 PM

Horton would ne great if your willing to for up 6mill+ per year for likely several years. Not sure Detroit can afford that unless they buy guys out or trade. I would love Horton though

I think he will end up getting a little less than that. I think he would be a great fit for the Wings, if they can afford him. Fortunately I think most good teams can't  (except maybe the Blues but I don't think they like throwing money around). So it weill come down to what he wants more; a big payday or to win.
If we can get one or (even better) 2 of Iginla, Horton, Bickell, Clarkson, Zubrus or Heatley (probable buy out), and rid ourselves of some of the redundant and over the hill players we have, I think we can be top contenders for the Cup next year.
 


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Posted 11 June 2013 - 05:55 PM

I still believe that what this team needs is a goal scorer. Getting bigger and meaner is all fine and dandy, but their biggest issue was putting the puck in the net. Ryder, Horton or Iginla would be fine with me. I still feel like Clarkson might be a bit fluky. He was prone to dry spells during the year, and is really a net-front presence that complimented Kovalchuk, imo.



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Posted 11 June 2013 - 07:06 PM

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I'm sure he wouldn't say, "Hell no, I want to get out of here as soon as possible" even if it was true at this point.


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Posted 11 June 2013 - 07:56 PM

I voted Ribeiro and Ryder. Age aside both can score pretty consistently which is what I think we need the most. I'm pretty confident that Clarkson had a Hartnell-like season and won't meet those offensive numbers again going forward. Just my opinion.


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Posted 11 June 2013 - 08:00 PM

I voted Ribeiro and Ryder. Age aside both can score pretty consistently which is what I think we need the most. I'm pretty confident that Clarkson had a Hartnell-like season and won't meet those offensive numbers again going forward. Just my opinion.

He scored 30 last year and 15 in 48 games this year (27goal pace over 82 games).
 



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Posted 11 June 2013 - 08:07 PM

I think he will end up getting a little less than that. I think he would be a great fit for the Wings, if they can afford him. Fortunately I think most good teams can't  (except maybe the Blues but I don't think they like throwing money around). So it weill come down to what he wants more; a big payday or to win.
If we can get one or (even better) 2 of Iginla, Horton, Bickell, Clarkson, Zubrus or Heatley (probable buy out), and rid ourselves of some of the redundant and over the hill players we have, I think we can be top contenders for the Cup next year.
 

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