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#161 Opie

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 06:55 PM

 

In case you forgot, a Dallas loss in that team's final game of the season was necessary in order for Chicago to make the playoffs in 2011, and they got bounced in the first round in both 2011 and 2012.

That is hardly the demise this board predicted!


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 08:15 PM

That is hardly the demise this board predicted!

 

Nobody predicted that they would be a basement team.



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 12:37 AM

This board sounds an awful lot like it did after the Hawks won their first cup.

 

"The Hawks will suck after signing a few big names!" 

 

"Good-bye Depth, Hello COOORRRRREEEE"

 

 

Hawks seem to have turned out OK!

 

I mentioned in a another thread, good teams are going to go in cycles.  They'll maintain their core of stars, but around them will be a cast of scrubs, retreads and youngsters.  They'll be real good for a couple of years when those guys are cheap and work out, but then those guys will leave for more money elsewhere and the process will start again.

 

Crymson has already brought up the Hawks record, and this playoff run their depth has been almost as important as their core, and this post-season and next summer, they're going to lose a lot of that depth.  So are Boston.


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 06:34 AM

I wouldn't consider two first round losses to be a going in a "cycle".  I know many here seem to think there's an exact formula to winning it all.  There just isn't.  A few months ago, many here had already given the cup to the Pens and annointed Ray Shero the best GM ever.  Injuries happen, goalies get hot, you get fluke goals.  Chicago was one flukey goal away from being an epic failure this season in the minds of many and now they're the shining example of how to do things. 



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 10:56 AM

I wouldn't consider two first round losses to be a going in a "cycle".  I know many here seem to think there's an exact formula to winning it all.  There just isn't.  A few months ago, many here had already given the cup to the Pens and annointed Ray Shero the best GM ever. 

 

Injuries happen, goalies get hot, you get fluke goals.  Chicago was one flukey goal away from being an epic failure this season in the minds of many and now they're the shining example of how to do things. 

 

The people who were giving the cup to the Pens were fools who are ignorant of the history of hockey.  They were one of the favourites for sure, but thats all you can do as a GM - make your team a contender.  Then as you say, injuries, goalies and fluke goals have their say on your outcome.

 

Nevertheless, the best way to build a team in this cap world, is a strong core of stars surrounded by scrubs, retreads and kids who are cheap AND good.  Just like Chicago, Boston, Pittsburgh and LA have...

 

Unfortunately, we woke Chicago up.  They sleepwalked through their first 7 games.  They've gone 8-1 since they were 3 games to 1 down.


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 11:55 AM

Great move by the pens. They guaranteed a playoff berth every year for the next 8 years. You have to have stars to win.

Nothing is guaranteed.  I would love it if they had that kind of mindset though, where they "knew" they would make the playoffs.  That's the kind of thing that leads to upsets.  




 
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