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#1 LeftWinger

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 04:02 PM

Would you trade for him if he were on the block, and what do you think it would take?

 

Would you try to pick him up if he got bought out?

 

 

I only made this thread to not derail the Hossa thread.  I haven't heard anything about him being vought out or traded, but they are in a bit of a pickle with very  little payers signed... I will quote what I wrote in the Hossa thread and you guys can comment from there:

 


What would you give up for Kovalchuk?  You mentioned the impending retirement of Broduer, they could bite at Mrazek too... (not straight up of course...)

 

In all honesty, they do need some cap relief...they only have 6 forwards and 6 defensemen signed with $26M in Capspace....$26M sounds like a lot, but it could disappear quickly when you have to sign 8 forwards and a D...that is an average $2.8M per player, and it todays market, that is a lot of average to below average players or tons of prospects!

 

This guy indeed had prior chemistry with Dastyuk and at $6.6M cap hit, he is not too expensive considering the market...plus if he got bought out, he would be even cheaper...


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 04:07 PM

No I would not trade for that contract. I would however offer him a big deal if he got bought out. I don't think either will happen tho.

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 04:31 PM

This guy indeed had prior chemistry with Dastyuk and at $6.6M cap hit, he is not too expensive considering the market...plus if he got bought out, he would be even cheaper...

 

Prior chemistry when? Anyway, we've already got Z and Franzen on lifetime contracts. We don't need yet another.

 

He won't be bought out. Even if the Devils wanted to do so, for whatever reason, they just don't have that kind of cash on hand.


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 04:36 PM

 

Prior chemistry when? Anyway, we've already got Datsyuk and Franzen on lifetime contracts. We don't need yet another.

 

He won't be bought out. Even if the Devils wanted to do so, for whatever reason, they just don't have that kind of cash on hand.

dats got a new contract?


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 04:50 PM

dats got a new contract?

 

I meant Zetterberg.



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Posted 10 June 2013 - 05:12 PM

 

Prior chemistry when? Anyway, we've already got Z and Franzen on lifetime contracts. We don't need yet another.

 

He won't be bought out. Even if the Devils wanted to do so, for whatever reason, they just don't have that kind of cash on hand.

 

Whoops, I thought maybe they played together over in Russia prior to the NHL...I guess other than the Olympics and some other International play, they haven't really played too much more together.  I do remember watching the last Olympics with a line of Kovalchuk - Datsyuk - Malkin.  That was pretty amazing to watch, but I guess I was off base a bit there...


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 05:23 PM

 

Whoops, I thought maybe they played together over in Russia prior to the NHL...I guess other than the Olympics and some other International play, they haven't really played too much more together.  I do remember watching the last Olympics with a line of Kovalchuk - Datsyuk - Malkin.  That was pretty amazing to watch, but I guess I was off base a bit there...

 

Unless I'm mistaken, Datsyuk was playing with Malkin and Ovechkin for much of the tournament.



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Posted 10 June 2013 - 05:27 PM

 

Unless I'm mistaken, Datsyuk was playing with Malkin and Ovechkin for much of the tournament.

 

That may be, but I do remember Kovi being out with them as well, maybe on the PP, because that is what I pictured in my head when I typed that in the first place...


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 05:59 PM

Cash strapped Devils needs to buy him out first for me to think about that...



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Posted 10 June 2013 - 06:22 PM

You'll have to wait until next summer for a buy out, which actually might happen...the contract is that bad. 



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Posted 10 June 2013 - 06:36 PM

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 06:45 PM

Even though Kovalchuk would be an upgrade and give us a top flight sniper to play with Dats, I just don't see it being a good fit with the Red Wings...maybe someone can convince me otherwise, but that's just the way I see it.


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 09:11 PM

What if Stamkos is bought out?

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 09:29 PM

What if Stamkos is bought out?

 

Vinny is a more likely buyout candidate, and I'd love to see that guy hit the market. 


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 09:32 PM

 
Vinny is a more likely buyout candidate, and I'd love to see that guy hit the market. 


What if Bobby Ryan is bought out?

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 09:34 PM

What if Bobby Ryan is bought out?

 

Haha, I have a feeling you could keep going with this all day long.


GMRwings:  "Well, in other civilized countries, 16 years old isn't considered underage.  For instance, I believe the age of consent is 16 in Canada.  There's some US states where it's 16 as well.  

 

Get off the high horse.  Not like she was 10."

 

"Some girls are 17 even though they look 25."

 

 


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 09:42 PM

 
Haha, I have a feeling you could keep going with this all day long.


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The what if threads are making me laugh!

Hossa, Malkin, Kovalchuk...

These guys are Hall of Famers. Why would a team dump these kind of guys?

Do you think the Pens board has a thread that says "what if Zetterberg is bought out?!

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 12:53 AM

;-)

The what if threads are making me laugh!

Hossa, Malkin, Kovalchuk...

These guys are Hall of Famers. Why would a team dump these kind of guys?
 

 

Why?  To get under the cap?  To avoid crippling cap hits if they retire early?  Those lifetime contracts were great under the old rules, not so good now.  You either get a 41 year old player with a $6M cap hit, or a retired player, who still has a cap hit on your books.

 

In Malkin's case, the pens have a choice - do they sacrifice Malkin to keep some of their depth, or keep Malkin, have $19M tied up in 2 players, and lose some depth.


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Posted 11 June 2013 - 01:01 AM

 
Why?  To get under the cap?  To avoid crippling cap hits if they retire early?  Those lifetime contracts were great under the old rules, not so good now.  You either get a 41 year old player with a $6M cap hit, or a retired player, who still has a cap hit on your books.
 
In Malkin's case, the pens have a choice - do they sacrifice Malkin to keep some of their depth, or keep Malkin, have $19M tied up in 2 players, and lose some depth.


Look at the Ducks. 23 mil tied up in their top line. Pitts will do the same.

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 05:51 AM

Jersey, more than Pit, has the tough decision to make.  They only have 6 forwards signed and 6 defensemen.  They do have $26M available, but again, that will disappear fast with some of the names they'd like to retain...either make a hard decision on Kovi, or hope for some hometown discounts...or just fill your roster with AHL players...That would be a ton of money to buyout Kovi, I do agree!


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