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#481 BottleOfSmoke

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 07:23 PM

Good GOD who in their right mind would want to go from playing for the Detroit Red Wings to playing for the Buffalo Sabres or Florida Panthers?!?! It would take way more than a difference of 1.5 mil in salary to get me to do that kind of dumpster diving if I were a player. f*** that.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 07:25 PM

Good GOD who in their right mind would want to go from playing for the Detroit Red Wings to playing for the Buffalo Sabres or Florida Panthers?!?! It would take way more than a difference of 1.5 mil in salary to get me to do that kind of dumpster diving if I were a player. f*** that.

 

Easy to say that, but this isn't exactly a big name NBA player deciding between $20 million vs. $18.5 million.  

 

We're talking much less money.  Besides, I'd rather live in Florida and make $1.5 million more.  


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Posted 07 July 2013 - 07:31 PM

Yeah he would be one of the best players on the Panthers immediately and get to live in Florida. Much better situation, if he doesn't care about winning lol


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Posted 07 July 2013 - 07:33 PM

4 mil?

 

I mean, I love Brunner as much as the next guy, but come on......guy only has half a season under his belt. 

 

We all know what happened to........wait, who was the guy who went to Dallas and scored a hat trick his first game just to go cold half season- onwards? 




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Posted 07 July 2013 - 07:42 PM

if he doesn't care about winning lol


Maybe it's just me and this pesky thing called "integrity," but isn't that the whole point of being an athlete?! I mean, you're gonna be a millionaire either way for f***'s sake. I guess Brunner just seemed like a guy that LOVED the game, which to me would mean wanting to play for a contender with a great group of guys like PAVELf****** DATSYUK and fans thatf****** bleed for their team. But what do I know--I'm never gonna be a professional athlete or come close to smelling millions of dollars in my lifetime.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 07:58 PM

I like Brunner, and wouldn't complain if we could re-sign him for 3 million or less, but if he truly walks, I'm okay with that.  We'll be solid this upcoming season as is.  Next years free agent class is going to be 10 times better than this year and we will have some spots clearing up, and cap.

 

Gaborik, Heatley, Vanek, Thornton, Marleau, Stastny, Sedin, Sedin, Cammalleri, Iginla, Kessel, Pominville, Hemsky, Bergeron, Jokinen, Legwand, Michalek, Callahan, Pavelski, Steen, Brown, Moulson, Vrbata, Setoguchi, Kulemin, Ott, Boyle, etc.

 

Bouwmeester, Boyle, Phaneuf, Markov, Pitkanen, Komisarek, Meszaros, Orpik, Hjalmarsson, Girardi, Greene, Niskanen, Emelin, Diaz, etc.



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Posted 07 July 2013 - 07:59 PM

The thing is this should have been done some weeks ago why did he wait so long. It is not like the Wings played till January...if Brunner goes I hope he signs with the Islanders they are a young and coming team him and Tavares would be deadly


I don't think he waited. He tried to sign Brunner, but Brunner and his agent dictated this. If ya want to dance, you need a dance partner.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 08:00 PM

I like Brunner, and wouldn't complain if we could re-sign him for 3 million or less, but if he truly walks, I'm okay with that.  We'll be solid this upcoming season as is.  Next years free agent class is going to be 10 times better than this year and we will have some spots clearing up, and cap.
 
Gaborik, Heatley, Vanek, Thornton, Marleau, Stastny, Sedin, Sedin, Cammalleri, Iginla, Kessel, Pominville, Hemsky, Bergeron, Jokinen, Legwand, Michalek, Callahan, Pavelski, Steen, Brown, Moulson, Vrbata, Setoguchi, Kulemin, Ott, Boyle, etc.
 
Bouwmeester, Boyle, Phaneuf, Markov, Pitkanen, Komisarek, Meszaros, Orpik, Hjalmarsson, Girardi, Greene, Niskanen, Emelin, Diaz, etc.


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Posted 07 July 2013 - 11:49 PM

Next season we'll have the following players under contract:

 

Forwards:

 

Datsyuk

Zetterberg

Weiss

Franzen

Helm

Tootoo

Abdelkader

Miller

 

Defense:

 

Kronwall

Kindl

Lashoff

 

Goaltender:

 

Howard

Mrazek

 

So we'll need 6 forwards and 4 defensemen.  Assuming Nyquist, Andersson, Tatar, Smith, and DeKeyser stay, and that seems to be pretty automatic at this point, we'll need to fill 3 forward slots and 2 defensemen.  

 

I assume we'll end up re-signing Ericsson and I hope we sign Phaneuf.

 

Then I'm not sure if we have any kids coming up at that point, but assuming we don't, there is a chance we re-sign Alfredsson for one more year. Then I hope we go after someone like Kessel or Vanek and Bergeron or Brown.  Pipe dreams, I'm sure, but I can hope.



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Posted 07 July 2013 - 11:51 PM

Ok. I will explain:

Alfredsson is signed, making Brunner expendable.

You dont need to be a rocket scientist or even a sesquipedalian to understand why Brunner is now expendable. It's quite an easy concept.

 

right that is what I meant by explain... again saying the same things you keep saying. How is someone who is a righty and loves to shoot and can score truly expendable, even on the third line he is awesome. You can't tell me guys like Miller or Eaves, or even Tootoo are less expendable than him. For a team in need of scoring, getting rid of a potential 20-30 goal scorer is a bit ridiculous



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Posted 07 July 2013 - 11:56 PM

I like Brunner, and wouldn't complain if we could re-sign him for 3 million or less, but if he truly walks, I'm okay with that.  We'll be solid this upcoming season as is.  Next years free agent class is going to be 10 times better than this year and we will have some spots clearing up, and cap.
 
Gaborik, Heatley, Vanek, Thornton, Marleau, Stastny, Sedin, Sedin, Cammalleri, Iginla, Kessel, Pominville, Hemsky, Bergeron, Jokinen, Legwand, Michalek, Callahan, Pavelski, Steen, Brown, Moulson, Vrbata, Setoguchi, Kulemin, Ott, Boyle, etc.
 
Bouwmeester, Boyle, Phaneuf, Markov, Pitkanen, Komisarek, Meszaros, Orpik, Hjalmarsson, Girardi, Greene, Niskanen, Emelin, Diaz, etc.


Like every Ufa class, guys like Bergeron wIll never hit the market and I highly doubt either Kessel or Phaneuf will be let go in Toronto. Statsny, Letwand, Grenne and Girardi would be very tempting.

Brunner signing with the Sabers would make sense, imagine him on a line with Vanek and that Vancouver guy....deadly but the Panthers? They have Gudbranson, Huberdau and that's about it

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:08 AM

Vancouver guy = Cody Hodgson

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:34 AM

 

Easy to say that, but this isn't exactly a big name NBA player deciding between $20 million vs. $18.5 million.  

 

We're talking much less money.  Besides, I'd rather live in Florida and make $1.5 million more.  

 

No income tax in the state of Florida either, I believe?


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Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:52 AM

I like Brunner, and wouldn't complain if we could re-sign him for 3 million or less, but if he truly walks, I'm okay with that.  We'll be solid this upcoming season as is.  Next years free agent class is going to be 10 times better than this year and we will have some spots clearing up, and cap.
 
Gaborik, Heatley, Vanek, Thornton, Marleau, Stastny, Sedin, Sedin, Cammalleri, Iginla, Kessel, Pominville, Hemsky, Bergeron, Jokinen, Legwand, Michalek, Callahan, Pavelski, Steen, Brown, Moulson, Vrbata, Setoguchi, Kulemin, Ott, Boyle, etc.
 
Bouwmeester, Boyle, Phaneuf, Markov, Pitkanen, Komisarek, Meszaros, Orpik, Hjalmarsson, Girardi, Greene, Niskanen, Emelin, Diaz, etc.

Yes, and none of those guys are going to re-sign either! I'm so glad we got a stab at Perry and getzlaf this year like everyone said. Oh wait...

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 01:15 AM

 
right that is what I meant by explain... again saying the same things you keep saying. How is someone who is a righty and loves to shoot and can score truly expendable, even on the third line he is awesome. You can't tell me guys like Miller or Eaves, or even Tootoo are less expendable than him. For a team in need of scoring, getting rid of a potential 20-30 goal scorer is a bit ridiculous


I didnt say others werent expendable or less expendable. I could tell you that, though. Brunner doesnt want to be here for a FAIR price (2.5 mil). Sionara, kid. Have fun in Leino Land.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 02:48 AM

Like every Ufa class, guys like Bergeron wIll never hit the market and I highly doubt either Kessel or Phaneuf will be let go in Toronto. Statsny, Letwand, Grenne and Girardi would be very tempting. Brunner signing with the Sabers would make sense, imagine him on a line with Vanek and that Vancouver guy....deadly but the Panthers? They have Gudbranson, Huberdau and that's about it

 

Given the rumors out of Toronto that Pheneuf is being shopped, I myself wouldn't say highly doubt.



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Posted 08 July 2013 - 03:01 AM

4 mil?

 

I mean, I love Brunner as much as the next guy, but come on......guy only has half a season under his belt. 

 

We all know what happened to........wait, who was the guy who went to Dallas and scored a hat trick his first game just to go cold half season- onwards? 

 

You're thinking of Brunnstrom. He scored 17 goals in 55 games in his rookie season (as compared to 12 in 44 for Brunner), and it was all downhill from there.



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Posted 08 July 2013 - 03:23 AM

Next season we'll have the following players under contract:
 
Forwards:
 
Datsyuk
Zetterberg
Weiss
Franzen
Helm
Tootoo
Abdelkader
Miller
 
Defense:
 
Kronwall
Kindl
Lashoff
 
Goaltender:
 
Howard
Mrazek
 
So we'll need 6 forwards and 4 defensemen.  Assuming Nyquist, Andersson, Tatar, Smith, and DeKeyser stay, and that seems to be pretty automatic at this point, we'll need to fill 3 forward slots and 2 defensemen.  
 
I assume we'll end up re-signing Ericsson and I hope we sign Phaneuf.
 
Then I'm not sure if we have any kids coming up at that point, but assuming we don't, there is a chance we re-sign Alfredsson for one more year. Then I hope we go after someone like Kessel or Vanek and Bergeron or Brown.  Pipe dreams, I'm sure, but I can hope.




You're forgetting a back up goalie. And honestly with our youth at defense I wouldn't be surprised to see Ericsson and quinceu both go. But I'm guessing it depends non Ericssons asking price.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 06:09 AM

 

Given the rumors out of Toronto that Pheneuf is being shopped, I myself wouldn't say highly doubt.

 

I listened to Nonis and he basically said, for the right deal = making their team better everyone is available but they aren't shopping players BUT also aren't in a hurry to re-sign their two superstars.

 

Do the Wings still hold the rights to Brunner if so I would try to get something out of it and grant Buffalo etc. exclusive access in order to talk with him.


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Posted 08 July 2013 - 06:26 AM

 
I listened to Nonis and he basically said, for the right deal = making their team better everyone is available but they aren't shopping players BUT also aren't in a hurry to re-sign their two superstars.
 
Do the Wings still hold the rights to Brunner if so I would try to get something out of it and grant Buffalo etc. exclusive access in order to talk with him.


no one owns brunners rights currently. He's a UFA now.

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