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#181 The Axe

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 05:06 PM

Flip will get what he gets. No reason for us to overpay him, tho.

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 07:38 PM

Vinny would be a much better option on the second line then Flip. He is a big body that doesn't shy away from the rough stuff the way Flip does.



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Posted 30 June 2013 - 01:31 PM

@TheFourthPeriod: Barring a significant turn of events, doesn't sound like Detroit trades Filppula's rights. Contract talks will continue.

Edit: SMH

Edited by BottleOfSmoke, 30 June 2013 - 01:31 PM.

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#184 Crymson

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Posted 30 June 2013 - 01:41 PM

@TheFourthPeriod: Barring a significant turn of events, doesn't sound like Detroit trades Filppula's rights. Contract talks will continue.

Edit: SMH

 

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#185 Z and D for the C

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Posted 30 June 2013 - 01:48 PM

Vinny would be a much better option on the second line then Flip. He is a big body that doesn't shy away from the rough stuff the way Flip does.

 

Because after whistle scrums around the net is what wins Cups.


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Posted 30 June 2013 - 01:49 PM

 

Because after whistle scrums around the net is what wins Cups.

 

No, but being willing to go into the corners and to the front of the net helps. Filppula does neither.



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Posted 30 June 2013 - 01:51 PM

 
No, but being willing to go into the corners and to the front of the net helps. Filppula does neither.


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Posted 30 June 2013 - 01:52 PM

@TheFourthPeriod: Barring a significant turn of events, doesn't sound like Detroit trades Filppula's rights. Contract talks will continue.

Edit: SMH

 

I heard that they're going to have a hard time trading his rights because he's determined to test the open market.


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#189 Z and D for the C

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Posted 30 June 2013 - 01:53 PM

Filppula isn't a big net front presence, obviously, but he never shys away from battling for the puck in the corners. In fact, his skill for battling along the boards is one of his best traits.


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Posted 30 June 2013 - 02:01 PM

Filppula isn't a big net front presence, obviously, but he never shys away from battling for the puck in the corners. In fact, his skill for battling along the boards is one of his best traits.

 

I disagree. He's more likely to float around while somebody else does it.



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Posted 30 June 2013 - 02:05 PM

Filppula isn't a big net front presence, obviously, but he never shys away from battling for the puck in the corners. In fact, his skill for battling along the boards is one of his best traits.

 

Are you going to join a new board when he leaves? 

 

And you know what's funny? I used to give you a lot of crap, and my perspective hasn't changed much about Flip, but it seems like I'm on the milder side of Flip-distaste. I'd be fine if he stayed for $3.5 million, maybe every $4 million a year or so. Any more than that on this team is just not a smart move especially with Datsyuk signed now, but eh, at $5 million or more, there's just no way. Two bad. He's not a strong offensive player but it's nice to have decent forwards who you can put out all the time and not have to worry about them being a defensive liability.


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Posted 30 June 2013 - 02:12 PM

 

Are you going to join a new board when he leaves?

 

Oh come on, I'm a Wings fan more than a Filppula fan and if it was between signing Lecavalier or Filppula I'd pick Lecavalier. That said if we can't get him, I think Filppula simply had an off year and will be back to his 11-12 form next season and would want him back.


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Posted 30 June 2013 - 02:15 PM

 

Oh come on, I'm a Wings fan more than a Filppula fan and if it was between signing Lecavalier or Filppula I'd pick Lecavalier. That said if we can't get him, I think Filppula simply had an off year and will be back to his 11-12 form next season and would want him back.

 

Given his salary demands, that's an intolerably risky "if."



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Posted 30 June 2013 - 02:16 PM

 

Oh come on, I'm a Wings fan more than a Filppula fan and if it was between signing Lecavalier or Filppula I'd pick Lecavalier. That said if we can't get him, I think Filppula simply had an off year and will be back to his 11-12 form next season and would want him back.

 

I have to bust your chops a bit for old times sake!

 

And what do you think is a reasonable cap hit for him?


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Posted 30 June 2013 - 02:20 PM

Well dependant on his salary, of course.


 

I have to bust your chops a bit for old times sake!

 

And what do you think is a reasonable cap hit for him?

 

I think an ideal contract is $3.25-$3.5m for a couple years to give him a chance to prove himself. But that's pretty unlikely unless Filppula only wants to play for the Wings which isn't likely, so I wouldn't be upset if he ended up getting a bit over $4m for 4 or 5 years. Anything over that is too risky though.


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Posted 30 June 2013 - 02:23 PM

4 million per for 4 years. Get'er done Kenny!



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Posted 30 June 2013 - 02:29 PM

Well dependant on his salary, of course.


 

I think an ideal contract is $3.25-$3.5m for a couple years to give him a chance to prove himself. But that's pretty unlikely unless Filppula only wants to play for the Wings which isn't likely, so I wouldn't be upset if he ended up getting a bit over $4m for 4 or 5 years. Anything over that is too risky though.

 

I think that'd be fine for 4-5 years, the $4 million. A bit high given what he's done sans one season, but it's not atrocious. Given how it's gone though, I still think they would've been better off trading him at nearly any point over the last couple of years. If you remember, that was the biggest thing I pushed for, as I thought he was more valuable to us as a trade asset than a player given the guys we already had. Still blows my mind that we're most likely going to lose him for nothing given that the writing has been on the wall for the most part for years. Agree or not, you have to expect that he's a 35-40 point guy, and you knew he'd most likely want to cash in on his next deal. When you already have Dats and Z and you have very little else in terms of trade bait, I think you trade Flip.


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 11:08 AM

I don't want him on this team anymore. Not a condition of term, or how much per year, I just don't. I want this team to get tougher and hungrier, and Flip's style of play, to me, does not equate to these things. Go do that thing you do somewhere else.


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#199 Red Crazy

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 11:10 AM

 

Because after whistle scrums around the net is what wins Cups.

No it doesn't but taking the puck to the net and creating havoc in front of the goalie does. It's not like i hate Flip as a player but for 4+m that he wants I think the Wings can do better and need to do better. at 3.5 yes anymore no.



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Posted 02 July 2013 - 06:15 AM

this silence is making me nervous. i am going to lose it if Flip is resigned and Bunner isnt

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