evilmrt 636 Report post Posted June 20, 2013 Shouldn't ban it, but should require special "I've been trained on how to properly execute a spin-o-rama" card Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FireCaptain 563 Report post Posted June 21, 2013 A. No way Bettman could balance 5 plates, and B. He would drop plates on purpose in order to influence who wins. Just sayin'. Nah, he'd relocate 3 of the plates to 'better markets' and then be forced to have the NHL own the other 2 while searching for a 'suitable buyer'. 2 thegerkin and 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewdanna 143 Report post Posted June 21, 2013 scrap the shootout... 5 minutes of 4 on 4 followed by 5 minutes of 3 on 3. No goals? End it in a tie! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted June 21, 2013 Can we instead do the logical move and just ban the stupid skills competition altogether? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,521 Report post Posted June 21, 2013 (edited) scrap the shootout... 5 minutes of 4 on 4 followed by 5 minutes of 3 on 3. No goals? End it in a tie! Not really sure how 3 on 3 hockey is any better than a shootout? Also, nothing is more satisfying after watching 60+ minutes of competition than to end it in a tie. Sort of...uncompetitive...doncha think? Edited June 21, 2013 by kipwinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted June 21, 2013 Dumb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted June 21, 2013 How about keep the shootout format, but instead of it being a penalty shot, have 2 d-men and the goalie on one side and 3 forwards on the other. The forwards enter the zone, the d can't steal the puck-only block shots, and the play ends when either a goal is scored or the goalie covers the puck. Kind of a team shootout, with no time for a spin-o-rama. 2 MabusIncarnate and Uncle Danny reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MabusIncarnate 5,344 Report post Posted June 21, 2013 This is ridiculous. Just eliminate the shootout, make it 10 minute 4 vs 4 overtime and bring back the tie. No points for going into overtime and losing. STOP REWARDING TEAMS WITH A POINT FOR LOSING! And STILL, and this really bothers me, we have an icing rule that causes injuries and it remains so. Get your priorities straight NHL, Ban the spin-o-rama, I mean seriously? 1 Rhah reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted June 21, 2013 How about keep the shootout format, but instead of it being a penalty shot, have 2 d-men and the goalie on one side and 3 forwards on the other. The forwards enter the zone, the d can't steal the puck-only block shots, and the play ends when either a goal is scored or the goalie covers the puck. Kind of a team shootout, with no time for a spin-o-rama. Bert will find time. This is ridiculous. Just eliminate the shootout, make it 10 minute 4 vs 4 overtime and bring back the tie. No points for going into overtime and losing. STOP REWARDING TEAMS WITH A POINT FOR LOSING! And STILL, and this really bothers me, we have an icing rule that causes injuries and it remains so. Get your priorities straight NHL, Ban the spin-o-rama, I mean seriously? THIS. That's always bothered me.. too bad they won't get rid of it. the playoff race is always so tight near the #6-8 spot because of the point for loses. This gets the nhl more viewers/better tv ratings.. I don't see them getting rid of that. also I did hear somewhere that they are considering some sort of hybrid icing rule. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted June 21, 2013 Putting a restriction on this gimmick only draws more attention to how ridiculous the original idea is. 1 haroldsnepsts reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted June 21, 2013 Shouldn't ban it, but should require special "I've been trained on how to properly execute a spin-o-rama" cardI love this for the new NHL. You have to qualify for certain licenses to do things! We could get hitting licenses and players must pass a course but the license can be taken away if an illegal hit is given for 30 days. 1 evilmrt reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted June 21, 2013 Simple Solution Continuous OT. Is there anyone watching the post season OT hockey going on and saying to themselves: "hmm this is getting old, you know what would make this better, a shootout!" No 3 point games, stop watering down team's records with artificial points to fake parity! Win or Lose that is it. Play 4 OTs and have a game the next night, oops, unlucky for you. Would you rather have had a skills competition decide the game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wing-in-avs-town 123 Report post Posted June 21, 2013 Easy fix: 10 seconds to make one shot of any kind. No restrictions or super technical rules. Great, the NHL needs a shot clock now Just get rid of the shoot out please!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StormJH1 231 Report post Posted June 21, 2013 Not really sure how 3 on 3 hockey is any better than a shootout? Also, nothing is more satisfying after watching 60+ minutes of competition than to end it in a tie. Sort of...uncompetitive...doncha think? I understand your point, but think about what you're saying: 3 on 3 seems ridiculous to you, and yet...it still involves teamwork, live action goaltending (instead of set pieces), passing, strategy, and (wait for it...) DEFENSE! How could any configuration of live hockey action be less "hockey-like" than the shootout? I liken the shootout to free throws in basketball, yet, strangely, NBA fans just readily accept that guys throw themselves into traffic with no real plan as to how they will score, and are rewarded with a stoppage in action and two unopposed shots at the net. The argument I hear in favor of the shootout is that Bettman wanted shootouts because ties are unpopular in American sports, and because he wanted certainty that all games would fit into a 3-hour window. While the latter goal is desirable, that's a straw man argument because shootouts actually make the game LONGER than they were before. We had 5 minute OT followed by a tie before - now we have 5 minute OT followed by Zamboni followed by shootouts that can extend even longer than 3 rounds if its tied. 4 on 4 OT doesn't necessarily create more scoring, but that's because the goalies are so good nowadays. It does create more action, however - OT hockey is great! I'd like to see 3 on 3 tested out somewhere - the chances of an odd man rush become so much greater because if just one dude wipes out in the other end, there's going to be a scoring chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StormJH1 231 Report post Posted June 21, 2013 (edited) Also, NHL games do still end in ties, we just don't call it that. Teams play for that single point by tightening up at the end of the 3rd. Once secured, they open things up in overtime, but no matter what happens in OT or the shootout, you're still giving a point to the other team for the "tie". Neither team wins the team in regulation, but one point is awarded to each team for the "tie", and an additional point is awarded to the team that prevails in a 5-minute mini-game or the skills competition (SO). It'd be one thing if eliminating ties resulted in a simple W/L record and uniform standings (like in baseball). But it really doesn't simplify things at all - teams have a complicated 3-part record, and then an additional points total that actually determines their place. The elimination of the term "tie" was basically semantic, kind of like making a golf course "harder" by shifting the definition of "par" to require fewer strokes. Edited June 21, 2013 by StormJH1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Dynasty 267 Report post Posted June 23, 2013 Draw a box between the circles at the hash marks and have a stationary shot. Goalie can be standup or butterfly but must be completely in crease. BAM! Different and ridiculous. Your move NHL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,951 Report post Posted June 23, 2013 The one they should make illegal is the Patrick Kane "Come to a complete stop & stick handle for 2 minutes" move THIS! Better yet, get rid of the shootout all together! 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted June 23, 2013 As others have mentioned, that's inevitably what will happen when you create an artificial situation that decides games. Players will push the boundaries as far as they can, so it's going to get into more hairsplitting with the rules. Banning the spin-o-rama was a necessary step. The players were coming to a complete stop, running into the goalie, and jamming the puck home. I can't see them getting rid of the shootout anytime soon but a shot clock situation wouldn't be bad. Or starting a player from the other team a certain distance behind to chase the shooter down. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted June 23, 2013 As others have mentioned, that's inevitably what will happen when you create an artificial situation that decides games. Players will push the boundaries as far as they can, so it's going to get into more hairsplitting with the rules. Banning the spin-o-rama was a necessary step. The players were coming to a complete stop, running into the goalie, and jamming the puck home. I can't see them getting rid of the shootout anytime soon but a shot clock situation wouldn't be bad. Or starting a player from the other team a certain distance behind to chase the shooter down. That would be cool! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ally 448 Report post Posted June 23, 2013 I'd be okay with 3 on 3. I'd be even more okay with the shootout being gone entirely. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted June 24, 2013 Bert becomes useless if this happens. Good thing he's on board for only one more year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wingsfan72 198 Report post Posted September 13, 2013 The spin-o-rama lives! http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/09/11/spin-o-ramas-to-remain-legal-in-shootout/ Yay for Bert! Sorry if this has been brought up already; I didn't see it anywhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrasco 1,312 Report post Posted September 13, 2013 He's not all spin-o-rama: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted September 13, 2013 That's a great idea, Harold. The trailing player, I mean. I'd add that the trailer should be allowed to yell at the shooter and talk trash, maybe even throw things at him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted September 14, 2013 The spin-o-rama lives! http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/09/11/spin-o-ramas-to-remain-legal-in-shootout/ Yay for Bert! Sorry if this has been brought up already; I didn't see it anywhere. And just like that, Bert secures his roster spot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
