Euro_Twins 4,475 Report post Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) I figure let's just have one thread to discuss buyouts and trades in the offseason to stop the forums from getting clogged I will update all buyouts here, and trades Buyouts: Philly: Briere Bryzgalov Chicago: Montador Olesz Montreal: Kaberle Gomez (pre-season) Tampa: Lecavalier NYR: Redden (pre-season) Trades: To Avs: Alex Tanguay Cory Sarich To Flames: David Jones Shane O'Brien Edited June 28, 2013 by Euro_Twins Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,518 Report post Posted June 25, 2013 Sweet, trade Filppula's rights and whatever else to Winnepeg for Blake Wheeler's rights. Trade a conditional 4th to Florida for Weiss's rights. Bingo bango, got a big power winger and a center to replace Flip. Also, sweeten either pot with Tootoo, Colaiacovo, Eaves, or Emmerton as necessary. 1 swedishconnection reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted June 25, 2013 Sweet, trade Filppula's rights and whatever else to Winnepeg for Blake Wheeler's rights. Trade a conditional 4th to Florida for Weiss's rights. Bingo bango, got a big power winger and a center to replace Flip. Also, sweeten either pot with Tootoo, Colaiacovo, Eaves, or Emmerton as necessary. I think the OP meant this thread to be a destination to report actual trades and buyouts, not speculation, rumors, or ideas. Correct me if I'm wrong. With that being said, let's go huge: To Winnipeg: Filpulla's rights Tatar Quincey Tootoo Emmerton To Detroit: Wheeler's rights Bogoisian Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlashyG 1,799 Report post Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) Sweet, trade Filppula's rights and whatever else to Winnepeg for Blake Wheeler's rights. Trade a conditional 4th to Florida for Weiss's rights. Bingo bango, got a big power winger and a center to replace Flip. Also, sweeten either pot with Tootoo, Colaiacovo, Eaves, or Emmerton as necessary. With Wheeler being a RFA I doubt the rights to a UFA Filppula would be all that enticing. I doubt they are willing to trade his rights at all unless its in exchange for one or more good prospects or a high draft pick. He may not be available at all. I think Flips rights could possibly be swapped with Florida for Weiss' rights but even that is probably a long shot. I don't know if Florida has given up on signing him yet, and if they don't want Weiss I can't see them wanting Flip instead. Chances are the only thing you're going to get for a UFA's rights is a draft pick in the 4th round or later. On topic - Canadiens to buyout Kaberle - Flyers also buyout Briere - Leafs to buyout Komisarek Edited June 25, 2013 by FlashyG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,518 Report post Posted June 25, 2013 I think the OP meant this thread to be a destination to report actual trades and buyouts, not speculation, rumors, or ideas. Correct me if I'm wrong. With that being said, let's go huge: To Winnipeg: Filpulla's rights Tatar Quincey Tootoo Emmerton To Detroit: Wheeler's rights Bogoisian I'm down with this trade, but it only happens if Dave Dombrowski is given control of the Red Wings for an afternoon. With Wheeler being a RFA I doubt the rights to a UFA Filppula would be all that enticing. I doubt they are willing to trade his rights at all unless its in exchange for one or more good prospects or a high draft pick. He may not be available at all. I think Flips rights could possibly be swapped with Florida for Weiss' rights but even that is probably a long shot. I don't know if Florida has given up on signing him yet, and if they don't want Weiss I can't see them wanting Flip instead. Chances are the only thing you're going to get for a UFA's rights is a draft pick in the 4th round or later. Agreed, this proposal is pretty tongue in cheek. He made a trade and buyout thread so I just threw the first one up I could think of. I have no idea whether Wheeler is available or what it would take to get Weiss's rights. It's just for a laugh. 1 Shaman reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted June 25, 2013 Sweet, trade Filppula's rights and whatever else to Winnepeg for Blake Wheeler's rights. Trade a conditional 4th to Florida for Weiss's rights. Bingo bango, got a big power winger and a center to replace Flip. Also, sweeten either pot with Tootoo, Colaiacovo, Eaves, or Emmerton as necessary. HAHAHAH! That's hilarious. The Jets are working on contracts right now with Wheeler and Bogo, so that dream will be crushed within days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyukian-Deke 722 Report post Posted June 25, 2013 I would hate to be a Flyers fan right now. You trim the contracts of Richards to make room for Bryz and get rid of Bobrovsky who wins the Vezina this year. Only to use a buy-out on him. Yikes! 4 swedishconnection, Z Winged Dangler, SaCkaveli20 and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,475 Report post Posted June 25, 2013 I did mean for this thread to just be a spot to post actual trades and buyouts, there are other threads such as the capgeek thread and others to discuss fantasy trades and what not Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) nvm Edited June 25, 2013 by Son of a Wing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,475 Report post Posted June 25, 2013 I'm kinda hoping we can pull off a deal for Yandle finally. With us switching conferences and Phoenix in dire need of some forward depth I could see a trade being worked out. To Phoenix: Tatar Eaves Colaiacovo 2nd round pick To Detroit: Yandle 6th round pick again this thread was meant to post and discuss actual trades and buyouts throughout the nhl. There are various other threads to talk about what trades you want Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsfan4795 552 Report post Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) https://mobile.twitter.com/mirtle/statuses/349238346104569857#!/mirtle/statuses/349238346104569857 Teams not using buyouts... Calgary, Columbus, New Jersey for sure. Imagine more added here in next few days. Mackenzie guesses other teams that won't use their buyouts: https://mobile.twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/statuses/349241890455031808 Just a guess but also ANA, BOS, BUF, CAR, DAL, OTT, PHX amongst others. Edited June 25, 2013 by wingsfan4795 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richdg 267 Report post Posted June 25, 2013 here is hoping Stevie goes through with the rumored buyout of Vinny LeCav! he would be a nice #2 C for us! 1 Euro_Twins reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlashyG 1,799 Report post Posted June 25, 2013 here is hoping Stevie goes through with the rumored buyout of Vinny LeCav! he would be a nice #2 C for us! From what I've read "IF" that happens it won't happen this off-season but next years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlashyG 1,799 Report post Posted June 25, 2013 Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm under the impression that this summer is the end of which a team can buy-out 1 of it's players. If that's so - me thinks Stevie will keep Vinny. You can have 2 compliance buyouts total, and you can use them this off season or next off season. Teams also had the opportunity to use them during this season provided the person they were buying out was making more than 3 or 3.5 million a season (I can't remember exactly where the cutoff was) Gomez and Redden were the only 2 of the accelerated buyouts used. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richdg 267 Report post Posted June 26, 2013 From what I've read "IF" that happens it won't happen this off-season but next years. That is the part that is unknown. TB is expected to buy out both Malone and Vinny. But no one s sure if they will do one this year and one next, both this year, both next year, and in what order. If Vinny is available this summer, we need to bendover backwards to sign him, then dump Franzen. Just to make the money/cap work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlashyG 1,799 Report post Posted June 26, 2013 That is the part that is unknown. TB is expected to buy out both Malone and Vinny. But no one s sure if they will do one this year and one next, both this year, both next year, and in what order. If Vinny is available this summer, we need to bendover backwards to sign him, then dump Franzen. Just to make the money/cap work. Doing that makes no sense. That is replacing one of the few goal scorers we have for another set-up man. One of our biggest problem is that we don't have enough top 6 forwards and too many bottom 6 forwards and defenceman, I'd rather keep Franzen to play with Vinny, then jettison one of the extra defenceman to free up space. Quincey or Cola would by my first choices. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted June 26, 2013 Doing that makes no sense. That is replacing one of the few goal scorers we have for another set-up man. One of our biggest problem is that we don't have enough top 6 forwards and too many bottom 6 forwards and defenceman, I'd rather keep Franzen to play with Vinny, then jettison one of the extra defenceman to free up space. Quincey or Cola would by my first choices. keep mule and give vinny the money filp is asking for. Dump Sammy for extra cap space too.. that said, I bet Tampa keeps vinny this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted June 26, 2013 keep mule and give vinny the money filp is asking for. Dump Sammy for extra cap space too.. that said, I bet Tampa keeps vinny this season. All sources claiming a buyout say that he'll be kept until 2014. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nuts2u 22 Report post Posted June 26, 2013 You can have 2 compliance buyouts total, and you can use them this off season or next off season. Teams also had the opportunity to use them during this season provided the person they were buying out was making more than 3 or 3.5 million a season (I can't remember exactly where the cutoff was) Gomez and Redden were the only 2 of the accelerated buyouts used. I believe compliance buyouts have to be completed this season starting tonight and ending July 4th and next summer there will be a 2 week period at the end of the season when compliance buyouts can occur. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted June 26, 2013 All sources claiming a buyout say that he'll be kept until 2014. yeah, I figured as much. no surprise there.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BottleOfSmoke 5,965 Report post Posted June 27, 2013 @TSNBobMcKenzie: Compliance buyout window is now open BUT no buyout can occur until: a) player is put on waivers; b) player clears waivers 24 hrs later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilmrt 636 Report post Posted June 27, 2013 @TSNBobMcKenzie: Compliance buyout window is now open BUT no buyout can occur until: a) player is put on waivers; b) player clears waivers 24 hrs later. This should be interesting if someone snaps up a player meant for a buyout lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nev 1,085 Report post Posted June 27, 2013 All sources claiming a buyout say that he'll be kept until 2014. That makes sense. Same with Richards, Hossa, Franzen (please?). You keep them at their artificially low cap hit for as long as possible, you reduce the amount of money you're paying them not to play, and you still have them off the books at the end of their contract when they're old and over-paid (per cap) and avoid the brutalising early retirement penalties. This should be interesting if someone snaps up a player meant for a buyout lol Really? If I understand the CBA correctly, that means say TB do this to Lecavalier, he get picked up by say NYI, plays a few years, and then retires before his contract is up, TB still get hit with the early retirement penalty, yes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted June 27, 2013 That makes sense. Same with Richards, Hossa, Franzen (please?). You keep them at their artificially low cap hit for as long as possible, you reduce the amount of money you're paying them not to play, and you still have them off the books at the end of their contract when they're old and over-paid (per cap) and avoid the brutalising early retirement penalties. I still don't get this notion some people have that the organization would benefit from buying out one of its best scorers. Exactly who would replace him? The chances of Hossa being bought out are slim to none. The entirety of the talk on this comes from a speculative NYPost article that has been incessantly referenced by hockey writers. Hossa is a vital part of Chicago's roster. Really? If I understand the CBA correctly, that means say TB do this to Lecavalier, he get picked up by say NYI, plays a few years, and then retires before his contract is up, TB still get hit with the early retirement penalty, yes? As far as I know, TB would only be stuck with the early retirement penalty were they to trade him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted June 27, 2013 From TSN: NHL Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly sent out a memo to all 30 teams this week, warning them to play by the book when it comes to buyouts and trades. Daly's memo warned that any trade/buyout/re-acquire scenario would be deemed a circumvention of the collective bargaining agreement. The CBA prevents teams from re-signing players they've bought out for one year. ... Owners cheating? Interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites