FlashyG 1,799 Report post Posted June 27, 2013 I'm all for signing Lecavalier, but signing him and cutting Franzen and Flip loose in the same off-season is a net loss for the Wings when it comes to scoring. Franzen would actually be a very good player to line-up with Lecavalier giving us a strong 2nd line. As far as the FA class is concerned its not a certainty that all those players will hit the market, rights can still be traded, agreements can still be made and when July 1st rolls around I expect that list to look much worse. (Also when I said weak I mean in comparison to Franzen). The guys that will be left will probably be the guys who are looking for contracts similar in length to Franzen's (but for far more money). There is no Parise or Suter in this years field, there are some risky veterans and a bunch of guys looking for a payday based on a good season or 2. Considering we'd have to buy Franzen out before we can attempt to sign anyone, how angry would everyone be if we bought him out and let Flip go, then failed to land Lecavalier or any of the other better free agents out there? Ideally for me I'd buyout Sammy, and make sure I left enough room to chase Lecavalier, leave a buyout open for next season and if Franzen declines use the buyout on him then. I see no reason to use it on him this off-season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nuts2u 22 Report post Posted June 27, 2013 For all the bad that comes along with Franzen's contract, he is still our leading scorer more often than not. Lecavalier is not a goal scorer, and anyone we sign to replace Franzen will cost far more, I don't see any reason to buy him out this season. I'd use only one buyout this year though (Sammy) and save the other for next season in case Franzen's production drops or in the case of Tatar or Nyquist developing into players who can offset the loss of Franzen's goal scoring. Right now, he's still a massive bargain as far as Cap hits are concerned so why not at least keep him one more season. We know this years Free Agent class is weak, odds are the next one will be too, but it will be the first year until the tighter cap so maybe we see a few better options hit the market next off-season. The 3 Million threshold was only for the accelerated buyouts used before this off-season. (Gomez and Redden) Now that we are in the official buyout period there is no salary restrictions on who can be bought out. Thanks, I wasn't aware it only applied to accelerated buyouts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nev 1,085 Report post Posted June 27, 2013 For all the bad that comes along with Franzen's contract, he is still our leading scorer more often than not. Lecavalier is not a goal scorer, and anyone we sign to replace Franzen will cost far more, I don't see any reason to buy him out this season. I'd use only one buyout this year though (Sammy) and save the other for next season in case Franzen's production drops or in the case of Tatar or Nyquist developing into players who can offset the loss of Franzen's goal scoring. No, I agree, buy out Sammy this week, and Franzen next summer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,476 Report post Posted June 28, 2013 http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=675507&navid=nhl:topheads Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted June 28, 2013 Feaster strikes again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted June 28, 2013 Calgary gets younger. Sarich and O'Brien play a similar style. Interesting trade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jedi 1,865 Report post Posted June 28, 2013 The Rangers will not use their remaining compliance buyout this year. So Brad Richards remains in New York, for at least this season.Pierre LeBrun... Rangers announce they won't be using their last remaining compliance buyout this year. Which means Brad Richards is safe. Probably the right move. See how he and the remaining big names on the Blueshirts respond to Vigneault. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlashyG 1,799 Report post Posted June 28, 2013 (edited) Player Team Length Amount Vincent Lecavalier Tampa Bay 14 $32,666,667 Ilya Bryzgalov Philadelphia 14 $23,000,000 Danny Briere Philadelphia 4 $3,333,333 Tomas Kaberle Montreal 2 $3,000,000 Rostislav Olesz Chicago 2 $2,833,333 Steve Montador Chicago 4 $2,733,333 Here is the list of all players that have currently been bought out and the terms of their buyouts. (From TSN.ca) 55 million for the top 2 alone...yikes. Edited June 28, 2013 by FlashyG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wingsfan72 198 Report post Posted June 29, 2013 I didn't know where to post this, and I haven't seen it anywhere but here is a link to Kenny saying he wants to make at least one trade leading up to the draft. He even suggests making 3-for-1 trades! Its from a couple of days ago... http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/det130625.html Again, sorry if this is the wrong place or if it has been posted before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted June 29, 2013 tsn said edmonton wants to trade its picks for roster players emmerton and tootoo for edmonton's 56th pick??? islanders just lost streit so maybe coliacovo for a 6 or 7th?? i think filppula's rights will get dealt to dallas or calgary bert and sammy are gonna be really tough to get rid of ...maybe bert returns to vanc for a late pick?ducks? maybe colorado or edm as a veteran on the team to help the kids , i cant see anyone wanting sammy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted June 29, 2013 Is Vanek seriously on the block? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Toledo 233 Report post Posted June 29, 2013 Wild looking to deal Clutterbuck per Bob McKenzie. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted June 29, 2013 Wild looking to deal Clutterbuck per Bob McKenzie. I just posted that in the rumor section. I can't believe the Wild are going to get rid of him. Crash and bang player hits everything in sight. I know we have no room as of right now but damn Do like Cal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted June 29, 2013 I just posted that in the rumor section. I can't believe the Wild are going to get rid of him. Crash and bang player hits everything in sight. I know we have no room as of right now but damn Do like Cal I love, love, love Clutterbuck, especially his name. 1 St. Michael (the Red Wing) reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckbags 863 Report post Posted June 29, 2013 Hillarious that the Canucks are now fielding offers for Schneider..what a total mess that is..they know they can't get anything for Luongo at this point and no one will take that albatross of a contract so it's panic time. 1 St. Michael (the Red Wing) reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted June 29, 2013 Hillarious that the Canucks are now fielding offers for Schneider..what a total mess that is..they know they can't get anything for Luongo at this point and no one will take that albatross of a contract so it's panic time. I agree what a total mess in Vancouver. Vancouver asking for a 1st pick and a prospect? I dunno.... Edmonton supposedly interested in Schneider? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckbags 863 Report post Posted June 29, 2013 (edited) Horton not re signing with Boston and Seguin on the block...either of those guys would look really good in red and white..wonder what they want for Seguin. as per Bob Mackenzie Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie4m Not 100 per cent yet but looks like Nathan Horton will NOT be back with BOS. B's talking trade and Tyler Seguin's name has been discussed. Edited June 29, 2013 by puckbags Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted June 29, 2013 Man oh man all this speculation is giving me a massive you know what. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted June 29, 2013 Man oh man all this speculation is giving me a massive you know what. Case of anticipation? 2 55fan and St. Michael (the Red Wing) reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted June 29, 2013 Case of anticipation? Something like that 1 Wingsfan72 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckbags 863 Report post Posted June 29, 2013 We should trade Cleary's rights for Horton's rights Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogreslayer 1,069 Report post Posted June 29, 2013 I just posted that in the rumor section. I can't believe the Wild are going to get rid of him. Crash and bang player hits everything in sight. I know we have no room as of right now but damn Do like Cal Seen rumors of the asking price being a 2nd round pick+prospect Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travis 576 Report post Posted June 29, 2013 Hillarious that the Canucks are now fielding offers for Schneider..what a total mess that is..they know they can't get anything for Luongo at this point and no one will take that albatross of a contract so it's panic time. Why not just use a compliance buyout on Luongo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted June 29, 2013 Not exactly headline news, but Colby Armstrong will not be back with Montreal next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted June 29, 2013 (edited) Seen rumors of the asking price being a 2nd round pick+prospect If that's all for Cal GET ER DONE KENNY. Hell give them Emmerton or Eaves or both along with a 2nd and prospect. All my Wild buddies are shocked they are shopping Cal. Edited June 29, 2013 by St. Michael (the Red Wing) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites