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#21 nuts2u

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 12:05 PM

 

You can have 2 compliance buyouts total, and you can use them this off season or next off season. Teams also had the opportunity to use them during this season provided the person they were buying out was making more than 3 or 3.5 million a season (I can't remember exactly where the cutoff was)

 

Gomez and Redden were the only 2 of the accelerated buyouts used. 

I believe compliance buyouts have to be completed this season starting  tonight and ending July 4th and next summer there will be a 2 week period at the end of the season when compliance buyouts can occur.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 12:14 PM

 
All sources claiming a buyout say that he'll be kept until 2014.


yeah, I figured as much. no surprise there..

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 10:32 PM

@TSNBobMcKenzie: Compliance buyout window is now open BUT no buyout can occur until: a) player is put on waivers; b) player clears waivers 24 hrs later.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 11:20 PM

@TSNBobMcKenzie: Compliance buyout window is now open BUT no buyout can occur until: a) player is put on waivers; b) player clears waivers 24 hrs later.

 

This should be interesting if someone snaps up a player meant for a buyout lol 



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Posted 27 June 2013 - 03:27 AM

 

All sources claiming a buyout say that he'll be kept until 2014.

 

That makes sense.  Same with Richards, Hossa, Franzen (please?).  You keep them at their artificially low cap hit for as long as possible, you reduce the amount of money you're paying them not to play, and you still have them off the books at the end of their contract when they're old and over-paid (per cap) and avoid the brutalising early retirement penalties.



 

This should be interesting if someone snaps up a player meant for a buyout lol 

 

Really?  If I understand the CBA correctly, that means say TB do this to Lecavalier, he get picked up by say NYI, plays a few years, and then retires before his contract is up, TB still get hit with the early retirement penalty, yes?


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Posted 27 June 2013 - 04:49 AM

 

That makes sense.  Same with Richards, Hossa, Franzen (please?).  You keep them at their artificially low cap hit for as long as possible, you reduce the amount of money you're paying them not to play, and you still have them off the books at the end of their contract when they're old and over-paid (per cap) and avoid the brutalising early retirement penalties.

 

I still don't get this notion some people have that the organization would benefit from buying out one of its best scorers. Exactly who would replace him?

 

The chances of Hossa being bought out are slim to none. The entirety of the talk on this comes from a speculative NYPost article that has been incessantly referenced by hockey writers. Hossa is a vital part of Chicago's roster.

 


Really?  If I understand the CBA correctly, that means say TB do this to Lecavalier, he get picked up by say NYI, plays a few years, and then retires before his contract is up, TB still get hit with the early retirement penalty, yes?

 

As far as I know, TB would only be stuck with the early retirement penalty were they to trade him.



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Posted 27 June 2013 - 07:00 AM

From TSN:

 

 

NHL Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly sent out a memo to all 30 teams this week, warning them to play by the book when it comes to buyouts and trades.

Daly's memo warned that any trade/buyout/re-acquire scenario would be deemed a circumvention of the collective bargaining agreement. The CBA prevents teams from re-signing players they've bought out for one year.

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Owners cheating? Interesting.


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#28 Detroit # 1 Fan

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 07:56 AM

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Just learn that the Lightning will buy out Vincent Lecavalier contract. #RDS

 

One of the big buyout questions answered.
 


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#29 wingedominance13

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:29 AM

Would love Vinny....



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Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:30 AM

Renaud Lavoie ‏@RenLavoieRDS 6m

Just learn that the Lightning will buy out Vincent Lecavalier contract. #RDS

 

One of the big buyout questions answered.
 

Yeah - just saw that on TSN...

 

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=426423



Would love Vinny....

If I were gonna spend $6 million on a UFA...Screw Horton - get me some Vinny!



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#31 jfranzen

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:34 AM

Late to the party.

Edited by jfranzen, 27 June 2013 - 08:34 AM.

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#32 Datsyukian-Deke

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:35 AM

Wouldn't mind having Vinny in Red and White!

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:37 AM

Vinny would be an excellent filp replacement :D

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#34 F.Michael

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:41 AM

Wouldn't mind having Vinny in Red and White!

Who wouldn't??!!

 

That said - me thinks Habs GM Marc Bergevin will be in touch with Vinny's agent.

 

I'm certain it'll be an interesting 2013 NHL draft weekend; unlike the past few years there'll be some moves be it draft picks, or roster players.



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#35 amato

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:42 AM

I'm certain it'll be an interesting 2013 NHL draft weekend; unlike the past few years there'll be some moves be it draft picks, or roster players.


lets hope so! The past couple years have been pretty boring

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:44 AM

Vinny would bring alot of size, heart and leadership. Not sure if we'd be interested or not, but if we can't get the big winger, wouldn't mind the big center.


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Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:46 AM

Vinny would bring alot of size, heart and leadership. Not sure if we'd be interested or not, but if we can't get the big winger, wouldn't mind the big center.


losing filpula should make us more than interested.. at least for a 2-3 year contract.

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:46 AM

Yeah - just saw that on TSN...

 

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=426423



If I were gonna spend $6 million on a UFA...Screw Horton - get me some Vinny!

 

Because he's getting bought out, the next contract he'll sign will probably be low.  Hopefully Stevie told him how great it was to play in Detroit.


Edited by xtrememachine1, 27 June 2013 - 08:47 AM.


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Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:51 AM

Lecavalier, Stamkos, St. louis, and Hedman

For

White, Bertuzzi, Sammuelsson, Cleary, Filppula, Tootoo, and Colaoccovo.

Yzerman fired by Tampa Bay. Rejoins Red Wings as assistant GM.

.......(wakes up)........

#40 Travis

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:56 AM

Lecavalier, Stamkos, St. louis, and Hedman

For

White, Bertuzzi, Sammuelsson, Cleary, Filppula, Tootoo, and Colaoccovo.

Yzerman fired by Tampa Bay. Rejoins Red Wings as assistant GM.

.......(wakes up)........

 

At the press conference, Yzerman tears opens his dress shirt to reveal his Red Wings sweater, super kicks Phil Esposito. Red Wings' theme music blares through the PA as Jim Ross screams, "My God! He's back! He's back! He's back!" and the show fades to black.


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