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#1 TheDetroitRedWings

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 01:48 AM

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=426712

 

Well, so much for us getting Bickell. Never really thought it would happen anyway. 4 mill a year def sounds about right.


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 02:10 AM

That's a lot of money for somebody that's never broken 40 points and probably never will.



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Posted 01 July 2013 - 05:13 AM

A lot of people were surprised that they were clearing out Bolland and Frolik after saying they would have to blow up their secondary players again.  Looks like they probably identified Bickell as a priority to keep.  I agree that $4 mil/yr for such a limited track record is a bit high, but if David Clarkson gets $5 mil AAV from someone, Bickell was absolutely going to get $3.5 mil or better.

 

He was an undeniable force for them in the Playoffs, it just seemed like they could have done a little better going that long on term.



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Posted 01 July 2013 - 06:53 AM

A lot of people were surprised that they were clearing out Bolland and Frolik after saying they would have to blow up their secondary players again.  Looks like they probably identified Bickell as a priority to keep.  I agree that $4 mil/yr for such a limited track record is a bit high, but if David Clarkson gets $5 mil AAV from someone, Bickell was absolutely going to get $3.5 mil or better.

 

He was an undeniable force for them in the Playoffs, it just seemed like they could have done a little better going that long on term.

 

I'd rather have Clarkson at 4 mil per than Bickell at 4 mill per and if the option presents itself, I hope Holland is going to phone Lou about it :-)


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 08:53 AM

Hawks already deviating from their previous formula... now hopefully Bickell blows up to 300+ pounds like Buff.



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Posted 01 July 2013 - 09:20 AM

This is an overpayment... it feels like the "in good faith" contracts that holland can give out so that the player can reach and exceed their contract value. Except this one is just way crazier and I would be willing to bet a lot that it will never be reached... Lets just say this I'll take Franzen over Bickell at a 4m cap hit.



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Posted 01 July 2013 - 09:32 AM

He will get traded in a year or two...
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Posted 01 July 2013 - 10:36 AM

He will get traded in a year or two...


If he continues his scoring and top notch play, otherwise if he goes back to his previous baseline it would be a huge contract to take on, no team would want it
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Posted 01 July 2013 - 02:32 PM

 

I'd rather have Clarkson at 4 mil per than Bickell at 4 mill per and if the option presents itself, I hope Holland is going to phone Lou about it :-)

 

Well, yeah, absolutely, but my point was that those were the top two gritty power forwards on the market, so one helps define the price of the other.  Clarkson is absolutely going to get more than Bickell.



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Posted 01 July 2013 - 02:51 PM

If he continues his scoring and top notch play, otherwise if he goes back to his previous baseline it would be a huge contract to take on, no team would want it


Just like was a case with Campbell, Ladd, Versteeg, Buff, Brouwer, Bolland...
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Posted 01 July 2013 - 03:03 PM

Overpayment, considering he's never topped 40 points in his career. Had a great postseason, but this contract could come back to bite the 'Hawks in the ass.
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Posted 01 July 2013 - 03:04 PM

over payed, as per most free agents... good thing that cap went down, am i right?



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Posted 01 July 2013 - 03:16 PM

Has there been a free agent signing in the past year that we havent said "Overpayment"? Maybe we, not only fans but Wings managment as well, need to get off our high horses about "overpaying" players. Prices go up, that's how the world works.


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 03:35 PM

That's a lot of money for somebody that's never broken 40 points and probably never will.


Would you rather have Bickell or Hudler during the playoffs?

Z, Dats, Helm are the only 3 Wings forwards I'd rather have.

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 03:46 PM

Would you rather have Bickell or Hudler during the playoffs?

Z, Dats, Helm are the only 3 Wings forwards I'd rather have.

I feel like Bickell is being over-valued because of one good playoff run.  If he keeps playing at this level, probably Bickell.  I don't believe that he'll play that well every year, although only time will tell.

 

Regardless, the Wings' lack of top 6 talent isn't a basis for arguing that players on other teams are being paid appropriately.



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Posted 01 July 2013 - 04:14 PM

Bickell is a good complimentary player, and he will go as far as his linemates take him. However, he isn't the type of player that can elevate his line. I think right now 4m/yr is a large overpayment, but it can look good if he gets time with Toews and/or Kane all season. 



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Posted 01 July 2013 - 05:47 PM

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 05:59 PM

I feel like Bickell is being over-valued because of one good playoff run.  If he keeps playing at this level, probably Bickell.  I don't believe that he'll play that well every year, although only time will tell.
 
Regardless, the Wings' lack of top 6 talent isn't a basis for arguing that players on other teams are being paid appropriately.


I see your point. And its a good one.

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 06:41 PM

Dustin Penner, Ryan Malone... Bickell.. Same s*** different smell.

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 11:31 PM

Didn't people on here think he was going to get 5-6 million or something? lol

 

Deal is good for the Hawks and Bickell.

 

Thank F we can put the "Let's sign Bickell" debate to bed.







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