stillwater 186 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 Cleary is 34. 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingsRox 614 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 Cleary's knees won't last 3 years Kenny. 2 St. Michael (the Red Wing) and nyqvististhefuture reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropkickshanahans 463 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 He's not 37, he's 34. 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 (edited) all we ever seem to do is resign our own players or players who have been here before ... id rather just give more ice time to the kids comes a time to let go of the past Edited July 3, 2013 by nyqvististhefuture 1 LidsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsfan4795 552 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 That's the problem though, we don't play him in the bottom 6. He played in the TOP 6 every game he played, which is obviously quite ridiculous and yet another reason why I and most others don't want him backHopefully there will be far less injuries next year. I also think with Tatar coming up, at least one of our young third liners will be bumped up to a top 6 winger role. No? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xtrememachine1 795 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 I think using a buyout on Carlo is a waste. IMHO, he was one of our top 4 defensemen in the playoffs, and is paid less than at least one guy who he outplayed (Quincy). I think he could and would crack our lineup even with DeKeyser back. Now, we are relying on Smith to step it up and Quincy to play to his potential every night vs. having a guy that came in and played rock solid in our back pocket. And we're doing this why? To keep Samuelsson?? WTF??? I agree 100%. Colo actually did something this past season and is in a position of need. Sammy did literally nothing for us, costs us more and plays a position we're log jammed at already. I'm not sure why they're keeping him. He's not good enough to be top 6 and if he plays the bottom 6, he'll take away a roster spot from one our younger players that should be with the big club. I really hope there's a trade in the works here. 2 matthewdanna and LidsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 Wouldn't be surprised if Cleary signed 3 years. It'll probly bring him to retirement and im pretty sure at some point Holland or babs said Cleary would be a wing for life.. that said, 3 mill per is disgusting. 1 LidsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 3 years at $3mil per? Don't ******* do it, Kenny. 4 Z Winged Dangler, St. Michael (the Red Wing), LidsFan and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 So...Let me get this straight...We got 2 guys...When healthy - one is actually pretty useful, and we're getting rid of him, and the other when healthy is...Well...We're gonna keep him.....Makes sense Not to sound harsh.....Cleary - Bertuzzi - Samuelsson should not be Red Wings at the start of the 2013/2014 NHL season. Pretty much. Holland is obsessed with old geysers who aren't that good anymore. Did Bertuzzi or Samuelsson even play last season? Why are they being given another chance to get injured? I remember Cleary playing, because we all made countless jokes about him throughout the year, but he actually played well in the playoffs. But still, its time to be fully committed to a youth movement. We'd have enough veterans with Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Kronwall to have a balanced lineup with experience and youth. He's not 37, he's 34. He moves like he's 44. Ric Flair is in better shape than him. 5 LidsFan, e_prime, Rick D and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropkickshanahans 463 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 Pretty much. Holland is obsessed with old geysers who aren't that good anymore. Did Bertuzzi or Samuelsson even play last season? Why are they being given another chance to get injured? I remember Cleary playing, because we all made countless jokes about him throughout the year, but he actually played well in the playoffs. But still, its time to be fully committed to a youth movement. We'd have enough veterans with Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Kronwall to have a balanced lineup with experience and youth. He moves like he's 44. Ric Flair is in better shape than him. I'd buy a Cleary jersey if he boarded somebody and went "WOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo!!!" 9 esteef, Wings3:16, GMRwings1983 and 6 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WorkingOvertime 536 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 Any news on what type of buyout is being used? Unless they plan to buyout Mule next season, they don't need to save the compliance buyout, but it isn't necessary to use it now unless the Wings plan to be near the cap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaCkaveli20 275 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 I don't by any means think Jurco or Teemu are NHL ready...probably not even close. But they'd be a better option than a 3 mill Cleary. He skates like the Timbits at intermission, leaning on his stick for balance and falls over when grazed. I'm kind of done watching him play for Detroit. 4 St. Michael (the Red Wing), Rick D, SuperCalaFilppulastic! and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 2.5 is a great deal for us in regard to Brunner, I don't care if he wants 6 years. I thought he'd come in closer to 3, maybe even 3.5 to keep him... But 3 per for Cleary?! WTF?! Yeah, I'm not understanding that logic. A guy that's been hurt for 3 years, let's sign him to $3mil per when he's a bottom 6 player who played in the top 6 due to injuries. I won't be getting gamecenter next year if Cleary re-signs and takes Tatar's spot yet again. He's old news. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 Commentary for Cleary: Cleary skates down the left boards, trips over centre ice line, collects himself and continues down the boards. He hits the blue line with mediocre speed and gets the puck as close as he can to his favorite shooting are, top of the circle, puck literally touching the boards, and he sends a wrister to the net......bread basket! We never saw that coming! 2 SaCkaveli20 and LidsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingedominance13 112 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 "Part of what influences the Wings as they prepare for this coming season is knowing they’ll have three young players pushing for spots in 2014-15, when Tomas Jurco, Riley Sheahan and Landon Ferraro are all expected to be ready for the NHL" This is what makes me ok with not getting vinyl or making a big move. 1 Z Winged Dangler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 Pretty much. Holland is obsessed with old geysers who aren't that good anymore. Did Bertuzzi or Samuelsson even play last season? Why are they being given another chance to get injured? I remember Cleary playing, because we all made countless jokes about him throughout the year, but he actually played well in the playoffs. But still, its time to be fully committed to a youth movement. We'd have enough veterans with Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Kronwall to have a balanced lineup with experience and youth. He moves like he's 44. Ric Flair is in better shape than him. Flair can take a bump and style and profile better than Clears as well. I'd buy a Cleary jersey if he boarded somebody and went "WOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo!!!" Holy Shnikies I just spit my beer all over my computer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xtrememachine1 795 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 I'd buy a Cleary jersey if he boarded somebody and went "WOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo!!!" LOL its comments like these that make me love this board Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kindl Surprise 47 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 If we can get Brunner for 2.5 mil and there's guys like Tyler Bozak looking for 8 years @ 4.5... well I just hope we sign Brunner first Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fixxxer 11 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 Kinda wanted to see Colaiacovo stay for a full season. Makes me sick that they will bring Cleary back for 3 years at 3 mil. No wonder he wont get a top 6 player he's too buys wasting money on f*cking Cleary. Holland's an idiot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheOwl 77 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 "Part of what influences the Wings as they prepare for this coming season is knowing they’ll have three young players pushing for spots in 2014-15, when Tomas Jurco, Riley Sheahan and Landon Ferraro are all expected to be ready for the NHL" This is what makes me ok with not getting vinyl or making a big move. You do know that you can only have six bottom six forwards right? You need two lines that can put the puck in the net, EVERY NIGHT. We have 3 legitimate top 6 forwards right now. Having 15 forwards signed is pretty useless when only 3 or 4 can score a goal on a regular basis. 3 Z Winged Dangler, LidsFan and Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings3:16 318 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 I am gonna cry like a little girl if Samuelsson is not bought out and Cleary signs for 3 mill a year. He's not that stupid....right?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 Cleary's knees won't last 3 years Kenny. Let's hope, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travis 576 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 An acquaintance of mine created a Dan Cleary Drinking Game, one of the rules state that you must finish your drink whenever Dan Cleary scores a goal. Through the grapevine Dan Cleary somehow heard about this game and sent all of them glasses and autographed photos that said, "Drink up". 2 55fan and Nev reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jedi 1,865 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 There is the possibility that Sammy is still claiming injury. Injured players can't be bought out. Colaiacovo is a reasonable buyout. With DeKeyser ready for a full season, Kindl set with a 4 year deal, and Lashoff proving to be a reasonable 7th D, Cola is a logical buyout candidate. 1 Z Winged Dangler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 Holland's an idiot. If he really gives Cleary $3 million for another 3 seasons, I'll have to agree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites