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#141 haroldsnepsts

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 01:57 PM

IMO he had 1 good half playoff series in the last 2 years.  Other then that, his favorite move is get the puck, pin it to the corner half way up the boards, and then let the dman take it away and throw it out of the zone.

half playoff series?

Cleary was good all through this playoffs. Like I said, he was more of a factor with a separated shoulder then Flip and Mule.

It certainly won't kill me if they don't re-sign him but he still has some value in a Holmstrom like role. Cleary is not afraid to go to any part of the ice and battle for the puck. It's often ugly but it's more effective than people give him credit for.

He didn't simple stand around and have pucks hit him. He did the dirty work a lot of guys don't. The concern for me with Cleary is always his health. If he stays healthy he's probably good for 30ish points.

If he ends up on the top lines again, that's more Holland's fault for not giving Babcock better players to work with, especially if he's stuck with an injured Bertuzzi and Samuelsson again.

I guess I'm saying what happens with Cleary isn't going to be a large part of what I think of Holland's moves this offseason.
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Posted 03 July 2013 - 01:57 PM

 A good utility player? Isn't that why we re-signed Patrick Eaves and Drew Miller? We're all stocked up on utility players.


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Posted 03 July 2013 - 02:04 PM

A good utility player? Isn't that why we re-signed Patrick Eaves and Drew Miller? We're all stocked up on utility players.

Cleary has consistently better production than both those guys and can play on the PP.

If anything, signing both Eaves and Miller is a mistake because they're basically the same player.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 02:05 PM

Glad we're buying out cola so we can use the money to give Cleary twice what he's worth -_-

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 02:07 PM

Glad we're buying out cola so we can use the money to give Cleary twice what he's worth -_-

He hasn't even been re-signed and you're already upset it's gross overpayment?

Until the dust settles, I don't know what to think of Holland's offseason. And Cleary is only a piece of it.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 02:17 PM

Thefourthperiod says Weiss will be looking for 5M/per over 5 years.

 

http://www.thefourth.../det130703.html

 

At these prices, no way Holland replaces Filpulla.

 

Not only will Cleary be re-signed, but he'll be a top six winger again :ninja:


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Posted 03 July 2013 - 02:17 PM

Cleary has consistently better production than both those guys and can play on the PP.

If anything, signing both Eaves and Miller is a mistake because they're basically the same player.

That's the problem, he plays on the top lines and the PP and he's a utility player that's paid like a top 6 player. He needs to be replaced with a younger, healthier, legitimate top 6 forward.


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Posted 03 July 2013 - 02:24 PM

That's the problem, he plays on the top lines and the PP and he's a utility player that's paid like a top 6 player. He needs to be replaced with a younger, healthier, legitimate top 6 forward.

 

I agree.  I think Cleary is a symptom, not the problem.  He plays on the top lines because Holland hasn't supplied that younger, healthier, legit top 6 forward.  And I don't know that any of the young guys are there yet. 

 

That's why Cleary being re-signed or not isn't a big deal to me in and of itself.  It's about what Holland does with that top 6.  If he re-signs Cleary thinking he should be a regular in the top 6 and on the PP, then I have a problem. 



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 02:44 PM

I still think Holland may go for someone like Penner as the size he is looking for...I could be wrong, but recently Holland is more known for the not so blockbuster UFA signing...
 
I think if Holland bought out Sammy, said goodbye to Flip and Cleary, then inked Brunner, Weiss and Penner (along with our RFA's) that this team would compete very well in the East.  It is all about the cash now though. I am not sure they could ink Weiss and Penner AND our RFA's PLUS Brunner...not without trading a couple of forwards for a pick.  I suppose he could ink them all and see who is going to start the season on IR, then as folks get healthy make a small deal...with the salaries going the way they are with UFA's, we may just be on the outside looking in...especially with Holland's philosophy on salary...


I'd be okay with those UFA signings except change Penner for Ryder/ iginla. Or even stalberg

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 03:13 PM

If we're gonna overpay someone $5 million for 5 years, may as well overpay a younger, more versatile David Clarkson. Weiss isn't worth $5 million/year.
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Posted 03 July 2013 - 03:31 PM

 

 

The Wings will not use their other compliance buyout, meaning that forwards Mikael Samuelsson and Todd Bertuzzi are safe.

http://www.foxsports...239&feedID=3804

 

Sammy will be a wing next season, I guess when he is finally healthy around the trade deadline he will be their deadline pickup.


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Posted 03 July 2013 - 03:32 PM

http://www.foxsports...239&feedID=3804
 
Sammy will be a wing next season, I guess when he is finally healthy around the trade deadline he will be their deadline pickup.


Well were not getting anyone now.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 03:34 PM

http://www.foxsports...239&feedID=3804

 

Sammy will be a wing next season, I guess when he is finally healthy around the trade deadline he will be their deadline pickup.

 

Worst news of the day. Dang.



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 03:41 PM

Well were not getting anyone now.

Well if they resign Cleary you can probably say goodbye to Tatar too.


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Posted 03 July 2013 - 03:50 PM

Well if they resign Cleary you can probably say goodbye to Tatar too.


Waivers?? Jk..... Actually wouldn't surprise me

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 03:55 PM

http://www.foxsports...239&feedID=3804
 
Sammy will be a wing next season, I guess when he is finally healthy around the trade deadline he will be their deadline pickup.

Aaaaaaaaaaannnnnndddd this is getting ridiculous.
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Posted 03 July 2013 - 03:56 PM

Waivers?? Jk..... Actually wouldn't surprise me

 

He's stated he won't play another season in the AHL. Of course, now I can't find the quote. But he feels he's earned his spot with the parent club (which he has) and doesn't want to spend another season in Grand Rapids.


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Posted 03 July 2013 - 03:57 PM

If cleary is signed I don't know how anyone can defend Holland anymore. We are going to get crushed by many teams in the Eastern Conference.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 03:59 PM

 
He's stated he won't play another season in the AHL. Of course, now I can't find the quote. But he feels he's earned his spot with the parent club (which he has) and doesn't want to spend another season in Grand Rapids.


I'm almost 100 percent sure that he's outta options anyways meaning he isn't waiver exempt

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 04:03 PM

1. Find some way to get rid of Samuelsson
2. Let Valerie walk.
3. Let Cleary walk, or sign him to a short, cheaper contract, and reduce his role to that of a bottom 6er.
4. Trade Emmerton for a pack of hockey cards.
5. Let White walk (pretty much a given at this point).
6. Sign Eric Nystrom.
7. Sign Ryane Clowe.

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