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#61 MileHighWingsGuy

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 04:27 PM

Maybe we can just bank our extra cap room this year since we seem determined everyone in the NHL wants too much money...Flip, Brunner, Lacavalier, Horton, Weiss, Clarkson, Bozak...at some point we'll readjust to

the value the market has on talent or we'll watch Datsyuk in amazement as he skates with the Samuelssons, Cleary's and Tootoo's of the world.


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Posted 04 July 2013 - 04:34 PM

Maybe we can just bank our extra cap room this year since we seem determined everyone in the NHL wants too much money...Flip, Brunner, Lacavalier, Horton, Weiss, Clarkson, Bozak...at some point we'll readjust to
the value the market has on talent or we'll watch Datsyuk in amazement as he skates with the Samuelssons, Cleary's and Tootoo's of the world.


We are used to the latter!!!

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 04:42 PM

Know it´s ESPN, but:

 

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Alfredsson's decision: Ottawa, Boston or Detroit.



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Posted 04 July 2013 - 04:42 PM

FML,really wanted Weiss as Val's replacement,but definitely not @ $6m per...



#65 Z Winged Dangler

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 04:50 PM

Seriously?? I really hope that's not true. If so, Weiss can go sign with someone else. 6M per year is outrageous

If Holland won't give Horton $6 mil, he sure as hell wouldn't give it to Weiss.  $4 mil or bust.  I like him but he was injured last year and his stats weren't very good, though the Panthers do suck.


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Alfredsson's decision: Ottawa, Boston or Detroit.

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 04:57 PM

Kenny would obviously have some things to fix up cap wise, but our top 3 lines could look awesome next season with a couple moves. 

 

Bertuzzi-Datsyuk-Grabovski

Alfredson-Zetterberg-Franzen

Brunner-Helm/Anderson-Nyquist

 

I really like Grabo and think he would be a great fit here. He competes extremely hard every shift, and he would have MUCH better talent to work with here than in Toronto. Even though he is a center, he could play on Pavel's wing if they split up the Eurotwins. He played on a line with Pavs in the KHL this year and they looked good together. 

 

Alfredson still has a scoring touch and has the ability to score some goals at the needed time. Playing with Hank would make things better for him, and having Franzen on their line to stand in front of the net and add goals would help.

 

And we already saw that 3rd line in the playoffs... beautiful mixture of speed and skill. 



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Posted 04 July 2013 - 05:00 PM

Z Winged Dangler, on 04 Jul 2013 - 05:50 PM, said:snapback.png

Know it´s ESPN, but:

 

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun 2m

Alfredsson's decision: Ottawa, Boston or Detroit.

Alfredsson should retire a Senator, head held high with the C on his jersey as he looks to the rafters and watches his number get retired.

 

2 words: Mike Modano :ninja:



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Posted 04 July 2013 - 05:00 PM

Kenny would obviously have some things to fix up cap wise, but our top 3 lines could look awesome next season with a couple moves. 

 

Bertuzzi-Datsyuk-Grabovski

Alfredson-Zetterberg-Franzen

Brunner-Helm/Anderson-Nyquist

 

I really like Grabo and think he would be a great fit here. He competes extremely hard every shift, and he would have MUCH better talent to work with here than in Toronto. Even though he is a center, he could play on Pavel's wing if they split up the Eurotwins. He played on a line with Pavs in the KHL this year and they looked good together. 

 

Alfredson still has a scoring touch and has the ability to score some goals at the needed time. Playing with Hank would make things better for him, and having Franzen on their line to stand in front of the net and add goals would help.

 

And we already saw that 3rd line in the playoffs... beautiful mixture of speed and skill. 

 

Bertuzzi on the top line?  Guy is like 40 and didn't even play last season.  

 

I sure hope he isn't playing on the top line next year.  That doesn't say much about our lineup.  


Edited by GMRwings1983, 04 July 2013 - 05:04 PM.

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 05:00 PM

Know it´s ESPN, but:
 
Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun 2m
Alfredsson's decision: Ottawa, Boston or Detroit.

Why would he come to detroit? If he is leaving Ottawa he will go somewhere to win the Cup. And that's not Detroit.

Edited by Datsyukian-Deke, 04 July 2013 - 05:02 PM.


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Posted 04 July 2013 - 05:01 PM

Alfredsson could be a help for one year, but would he really add the offense that the Wings want?  I would imagine that having the pressure of being the captain lifted from him and playing for a different team might rejuvenate him a bit.

 

Still, though... hard to get excited about the idea of him coming here.

 

edited:  Forgot he's not a center  :confused:


Edited by Wings_Toledo, 04 July 2013 - 05:03 PM.


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Posted 04 July 2013 - 05:06 PM

 

Bertuzzi on the top line?  Guy is like 40 and didn't even play last season.  

 

I sure hope he isn't playing on the top line next year.  That doesn't say much about our lineup.  

 

Bert plays well with Datsyuk. Keeps his game simple, creates space for Pavs and is not afraid to go to the front of the net. He can get between 15 and 20 goals playing with Pavs when healthy. 



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Posted 04 July 2013 - 05:11 PM

 

Bert plays well with Datsyuk. Keeps his game simple, creates space for Pavs and is not afraid to go to the front of the net. He can get between 15 and 20 goals playing with Pavs when healthy. 

 

That's not good enough playing on the top line, with players like Datsyuk.  Datsyuk deserved a 40 goal scorer.  30 at least.  

 

Besides, I don't even remember what Bertuzzi plays like with Datsyuk.  I don't remember what Bertuzzi plays like, period.  He's a goner.  


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Posted 04 July 2013 - 05:12 PM

Know it´s ESPN, but:
 
Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun 2m
Alfredsson's decision: Ottawa, Boston or Detroit.

Lebrun is one of the most reliable sources out there, along with Dreger and McKenzie. I'd take alfredsson in a heartbeat. He's one of the only available free agents who won't require a several year commitment. Our prospects will be ready to be top 6ers in a year or two

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 05:18 PM

 

That's not good enough playing on the top line, with players like Datsyuk.  Datsyuk deserved a 40 goal scorer.  30 at least.  

 

Besides, I don't even remember what Bertuzzi plays like with Datsyuk.  I don't remember what Bertuzzi plays like, period.  He's a goner.  

 

Well I hate to break it to you, but we do not have a 40 goal scorer to play with Datsyuk. Kenny let our 40 goal scorer walk so that we could keep Franzen. A line of Pavs, Bert and Grabo could see Bert getting 15 goals, Pavs around 25 goals and Grabo around 25 goals. A line of Hank, ALfie and Franzen would see similar numbers. Those are a solid amount of goals for the top two lines. Sometimes you have to use what you have to its best potential, and this would be the best option IMO. 



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Posted 04 July 2013 - 05:18 PM

Lebrun is one of the most reliable sources out there, along with Dreger and McKenzie. I'd take alfredsson in a heartbeat. He's one of the only available free agents who won't require a several year commitment. Our prospects will be ready to be top 6ers in a year or two

Alfredsson could score 30 on Dats' wing, if he doesn't stay with the Sens, which he should.  But if he does come to the Wings then having him on a 1 year deal would be a good bridge for someone like Pulkkinen or Frk to join the Wings to be the next right handed sniper.


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Posted 04 July 2013 - 05:25 PM

Kenny would obviously have some things to fix up cap wise, but our top 3 lines could look awesome next season with a couple moves. 
 
Bertuzzi-Datsyuk-Grabovski
Alfredson-Zetterberg-Franzen
Brunner-Helm/Anderson-Nyquist
 
I really like Grabo and think he would be a great fit here. He competes extremely hard every shift, and he would have MUCH better talent to work with here than in Toronto. Even though he is a center, he could play on Pavel's wing if they split up the Eurotwins. He played on a line with Pavs in the KHL this year and they looked good together. 
 
Alfredson still has a scoring touch and has the ability to score some goals at the needed time. Playing with Hank would make things better for him, and having Franzen on their line to stand in front of the net and add goals would help.
 
And we already saw that 3rd line in the playoffs... beautiful mixture of speed and skill. 


Had me (a couple moves and awesome) - Lost me (Bertuzzi).

Newsflash - Bertuzzi is now OLD, SLOW, and INEFFECTIVE.

Please let go of the nostalgia and let him fade into the Holmstrom/Draper/Maltby/Ozzie dimension.

You have to let him go, brah.

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 05:42 PM

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 05:46 PM

 

Well I hate to break it to you, but we do not have a 40 goal scorer to play with Datsyuk. Kenny let our 40 goal scorer walk so that we could keep Franzen. A line of Pavs, Bert and Grabo could see Bert getting 15 goals, Pavs around 25 goals and Grabo around 25 goals. A line of Hank, ALfie and Franzen would see similar numbers. Those are a solid amount of goals for the top two lines. Sometimes you have to use what you have to its best potential, and this would be the best option IMO. 

 

I know we don't have very much top 6 depth or quality.  

 

It'd be nice if we could get a real winger.  Not sure if Grabovski fits that role.  Alfredsson was good, but he's old and didn't put up good numbers last year.  Bertuzzi should retire.  

 

I wasn't sure about the Lecavalier move, but now that he's gone, I'm realizing that would have been the best linemate for Datsyuk, even though Vinny is also sliding downwards.  Our options are limited for sure.   


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Posted 04 July 2013 - 07:07 PM

 

I know we don't have very much top 6 depth or quality.  

 

It'd be nice if we could get a real winger.  Not sure if Grabovski fits that role.  Alfredsson was good, but he's old and didn't put up good numbers last year.  Bertuzzi should retire.  

 

I wasn't sure about the Lecavalier move, but now that he's gone, I'm realizing that would have been the best linemate for Datsyuk, even though Vinny is also sliding downwards.  Our options are limited for sure.   

 

I agree with this; though we're likely losing Val and he's technically a centre, he did put up the most points on the wing with Zetterberg. Assuming Z and Dats are each physically capable of centering a line, a winger for the top 6 makes sense.
 

I'm surprised there hasn't been much chatter about Stalberg recently. Yes, we all know he was a healthy scratch in the playoffs at times. But he is a player who scored over 20 goals in a season playing about 14 minutes a night. He had similar numbers (around 10 goals) over this past half-season.

Obviously he has his deficiencies - I don't recall him being overly physical despite having some size - but I wonder if his speed would make him a beneficial addition to the club. I think that shot of speed is what made Abdelkader a relatively effective part of the top 6 (which perhaps doesn't say much about how other players were performing). Stalberg has shown he can finish, however.  

 

I could see him as an option if the Wings do not retain Brunner, Cleary, Fil and don't want to overpay for Weiss. Given his poor postseason, I'd have to think Stalberg could be signed for a reasonable contract.  



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Posted 04 July 2013 - 07:54 PM

Alffie's making a scene to get more cash from the Sens...


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