TheDetroitRedWings 286 Report post Posted July 5, 2013 His contract constitutes a definite overpayment for a guy who isn't all that much better than Filppula. I definitely agree. But I wouldn't be surprised so see him get even as much 6M on the open market. I don't think Kenny should claim him. But F. Michael did bring up an interesting point. Of course depending on how much interest Kenny actually has in him. Just seems to be quite a head-scratching few weeks seeing what some of these players are asking for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pskov Wings Fan 71 Report post Posted July 5, 2013 Datsyuk and Grabovski played on the same team (CSKA) in KHL last year. They even were on the same line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stillwater 186 Report post Posted July 5, 2013 Sign Grabo and put him with Datsyuk. Cheaply, of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,793 Report post Posted July 5, 2013 Grabovski has exactly one fight in his NHL career. One more than Filppula! 3 LidsFan, Nevermind and 13dangledangle reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheOwl 77 Report post Posted July 5, 2013 Grabovski is a quality player, Toronto are fools for buying him out, especially if they give Bozak the same sort of deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtomicPunk 296 Report post Posted July 5, 2013 For anyone wondering if he would be a good fit, and why they bought him out, this might shed a little light... http://www.tsn.ca/toronto/blogs/jonas_siegel/?id=426967 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingsRox 614 Report post Posted July 5, 2013 (edited) I think Grabs is from Belarus... Grabovski is not exactly Russian. He is Belorussian. wiki says that Belarus became independent from Russia in 1991. Grabovski was born in 1984 ... hehe. Doesn't matter ... him and Dats on the same line would be fun to watch them shred some teams up ... for the discounted bought out player rate of course. $3.5-4m/yr? We could use some more scorers. Edited July 5, 2013 by RedWingsRox 2 13dangledangle and LidsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted July 5, 2013 wiki says that Belarus became independent from Russia in 1991. Grabovski was born in 1984 ... hehe. won on technicality. Well played 1 Datsyukian-Deke reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyukian-Deke 722 Report post Posted July 5, 2013 At least we know we are interested in Grabovski. I would love to get him! http://www.foxsportsdetroit.com/nhl/detroit-red-wings/story/Wings-show-interest-in-Alfredsson-Grabov?blockID=917807&feedID=3804 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pskov Wings Fan 71 Report post Posted July 5, 2013 wiki says that Belarus became independent from Russia in 1991. Grabovski was born in 1984 ... hehe. Does not make a difference. He was actually born in Postdam, East Germany but it does not make him German (or Russian). His parents are from Belarus, which makes him Belorussian. In Soviet Union there was nationality (ethnicity) record in passport. The internal passports identified every bearer by nationality (ethnicity) (национальность, natsional’nost’), e.g., Russian, Ukrainian, Uzbek, Estonian, Jew. This was on the so-called "fifth record" (пятая графа, pyataya grafa) of the passport. When an individual applied for his passport at age 16, his nationality would automatically be that of his parents if they were of the same nationality as one another (verified by the recorded nationality of the parents on the applicant's birth certificate). If they differed in nationality (again, based on the parents' nationality on the child's birth certificate), then the applicant would have to choose between the two nationalities. In this way an individual's passport nationality was fixed for life at age 16. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pskov Wings Fan 71 Report post Posted July 5, 2013 At least we know we are interested in Grabovski. I would love to get him! http://www.foxsportsdetroit.com/nhl/detroit-red-wings/story/Wings-show-interest-in-Alfredsson-Grabov?blockID=917807&feedID=3804 I am not sure what is the basis for the article stating that Grabovski got a "volatile personality". If it is only because of his words about Carlyle (and only after he was no longer with the team) then I would not give it a second thought. He is a fast skater. I think more speed would be nice for Detroit. 1 LidsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShanahanMan 473 Report post Posted July 5, 2013 Grabovski.....the guy who's not afraid to punch women in the face or demand a trade when you're scratched for a game. The dude has major major attitude problems and am even surprised he's being considered. Not the type of attitude we want in our dressing room, especially with the youngins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings_fanatic 677 Report post Posted July 5, 2013 Grabovski.....the guy who's not afraid to punch women in the face or demand a trade when you're scratched for a game. The dude has major major attitude problems and am even surprised he's being considered. Not the type of attitude we want in our dressing room, especially with the youngins. You sound like you don't know what your talking about. He is a great skater, can move the puck well, loves to shoot, and he had zero problems attitude wise in Toronto. Is he pissed now? Yah. His GM just told everyone earlier this week that he was not using a 2nd buyout so Grabo would be safe, then a couple days later he buys Grabo out. If Grabo had such a bad attitude, then he would have done this complaining to the media while he was still a member of the team during the season. Instead, he kept his mouth shut and kept playing and competiting. Furthermore, in his concluding comments he had this to say: ""I need to work harder," he concluded, taking time to thank his teammates, equipment managers and fans, "I need to be smarter, I need to play harder, need to play better and score a lot of goals and do what I do the best." To me, this sounds like a player who knows what he has to do to succeed and a good player who is ready to continue to work hard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShanahanMan 473 Report post Posted July 5, 2013 You sound like you don't know what your talking about. He is a great skater, can move the puck well, loves to shoot, and he had zero problems attitude wise in Toronto. Is he pissed now? Yah. His GM just told everyone earlier this week that he was not using a 2nd buyout so Grabo would be safe, then a couple days later he buys Grabo out. If Grabo had such a bad attitude, then he would have done this complaining to the media while he was still a member of the team during the season. Instead, he kept his mouth shut and kept playing and competiting. Furthermore, in his concluding comments he had this to say: ""I need to work harder," he concluded, taking time to thank his teammates, equipment managers and fans, "I need to be smarter, I need to play harder, need to play better and score a lot of goals and do what I do the best." To me, this sounds like a player who knows what he has to do to succeed and a good player who is ready to continue to work hard. Some Summer reading for you: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/leafs-grabovski-sued-by-couple-who-claim-assault-during-olympics/article1715703/ http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/2013/02/11/max_pacioretty_got_tetanus_shot_after_alleged_bite_by_leafs_mikhail_grabovski.html http://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/2012/02/10/leafs_mikhail_grabovski_attributes_trade_from_habs_to_inexperience.html 1 AtomicPunk reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings_fanatic 677 Report post Posted July 5, 2013 Your first article is something that happened 3 years ago. I do not blame Grabo for biting him how would you like a freakin glove up in your face like that. And the 3rd article proves absolutely nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDetroitRedWings 286 Report post Posted July 5, 2013 IMHO Grabovski > Weiss 4 nuts2u, Jesusberg, Mors and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings_fanatic 677 Report post Posted July 5, 2013 Another interesting thing to take into consideration... apparently tomorrow Grabo is getting married to a chick from the Windsor area (for those of you who do not know, it is right across the border from Detroit). Maybe she will put her foot down and have him sign in Hockeytown 1 F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pondrocket 35 Report post Posted July 5, 2013 Jimmy Nil will probably grab him. Nil won't try for Danny though. 3 x 3 = a desperate GM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nev 1,085 Report post Posted July 5, 2013 To keep this discussion moving with some hopes of creating some insightful banter... If Holland does covet Grabovski - does he claim him off waivers (thus accepting his contract of 5 years, and $27.5 million), or does he wait until he clears waivers, and becomes a UFA, and then competes against rival GMs for his services (mind you Grabo's cost could reach $5 million, or more in a bidding war). Its an interesting point, and one I thought about too. BTW I believe he only has 4 years left on his contract which makes it more tempting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted July 5, 2013 It shouldn't take too long to see if the tumour removal surgery in the Maple Leafs dressing room is a success. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nuts2u 22 Report post Posted July 5, 2013 Can't blame him for being pissed but because he went public with it I would be surprised if the Wings went hard after him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted July 5, 2013 Another interesting thing to take into consideration... apparently tomorrow Grabo is getting married to a chick from the Windsor area (for those of you who do not know, it is right across the border from Detroit). Maybe she will put her foot down and have him sign in Hockeytown it worked in minny for parise and suter so maybe! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13dangledangle 957 Report post Posted July 5, 2013 I wouldn't mind Grabovski at all. I wanted him more 2-3 years ago, he's been stuck in that system for a long time now but Id rather Grabo then Bozak that's for sure... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoalieManPat 1,007 Report post Posted July 5, 2013 The dude has major major attitude problems and am even surprised he's being considered. Not the type of attitude we want in our dressing room, especially with the youngins. I disagree with saying he has an attitude problem. Carlyle gave him the shaft when he came into the team. The guy could have easily started issues in the media during the season and caused all kinds of disruptions. Instead he acted like a professional and competed hard despite being dropped to the bottom 6 and playing few minutes. Its only after his ties with the team were severed that he went after Carlyle and in my opinion its 100% justified with how he was treated. If the Wings are interested in him Id rather they claim him off waivers. His price in open FA will probably cost more especially if the "top" forwards this year go quick and teams panic and start bidding wars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingfan1991 221 Report post Posted July 5, 2013 a HUGE no to this guy.. garabge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
