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#21 Z and D for the C

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 10:54 AM

Worse things could have happened. Glad it's only 1 year.

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 10:54 AM

Must mean we are not getting a C and have to keep Z on the 2nd line, now maybe with Alfie.  Put Franzen on that line for an all-Swede line.



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Posted 05 July 2013 - 10:54 AM

Only 1 yr deal, why all the whining?

Because thats the status quo here on LGW =)


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 10:54 AM

Holland simply doesn't learn. Wish I could say I don't believe it, but completely expected from the guy who ran after Modano, Sammy, and Jagr.

40 years old and will have to adopt to a brand new system and style of play

All thats left now is Clearly and that will be our free agent splash.

 

New system and style of play? The stache has been in Ottawa for two years now. I don't watch much of their games, but I bet he's incorporated a significant amount of Babcock's system into that team. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.



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Posted 05 July 2013 - 10:55 AM

Only 1 yr deal, why all the whining?

 

because any move holland makes is bad and any move he misses would have been great, duh :P


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 10:55 AM

Yeah, the big difference with Modano is that he had a reputation as a floater for a few years before he came to us.  Alfredsson, while old, still has game.

 

EDIT: As discussed in the other thread, the problem most people have with this signing is the money (rumored to be around $6 million), and the possibility that he is our big free agent acquisition this summer.  I don't think most of us actively don't want him here in any form.  But with all the talent we're losing, people are worried he isn't going to make that much of a difference.  We are still where we were a few weeks ago, and need help offensively.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 10:56 AM

TSNBobMcKenzie: Expectation is Alfredsson will go to DET. Since he's 35+ player, base salary likely in $3.5M range with bonuses taking it up to $5M total.

 

Great deal.  His bonuses would count against next years cap.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 10:57 AM

I don't see the downside here.

 

I agree, there isn't really a downside, 1 year deal, bad year he's going to get 20 goals I think..good year he might get 30..low risk..high reward.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 10:58 AM

Love this signing. He still puts up about 20 goals and its a 1 yr deal. Forces the kids to earn their top six minutes, while not taking away a roster spot for them (only from sammy and bert). Good insurance if brunner walks. Low risk with a potential high reward. Hard to hate this, unless you are just looking to hate on Holland for not breaking the bank of this absurd FA class. Not saying Holland has been perfect (not even close) but he hasn't been brazen and dumb either, just consistent. 

 

At this point Brunner will be our only option for a top 6 scorer.

Guess we'll see how much he's getting.

 

 

 

Well at that price for his age I don't like it.  His bonuses better be  something that he'll have to actually work for.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 10:58 AM

I wouldn't mind this deal at all if A.) We'd already re-signed Brunner and B.) we'd been able to unload Sammy.

I won't hate this deal as long as we don't re-sign Cleary. I will hate everything if we don't re-sign Brunner.

I don't know if any if these things are related, but I have feels and it makes sense in my head right now.

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 10:58 AM

TSNBobMcKenzie: Expectation is Alfredsson will go to DET. Since he's 35+ player, base salary likely in $3.5M range with bonuses taking it up to $5M total.

 

Great deal.  His bonuses would count against next years cap.

That way he maybe gone, but the mistake will still linger!


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 10:59 AM

I'm somewhat surprised by all the negativity here. I mean, I loathe Holland's veteran fetish as much as the next guy, but there's a lot to like about this deal. Or, ok, maybe not a lot, but it's not like this makes absolutely no sense and will only rob a kid of a spot and Dear-God-will-someone-please-think-of-the-children etc.

 

He's coming here to win a Cup. He's Dallas Drake Version 2.0.

 

Plus, I've gotta think this means Cleary is gone.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 10:59 AM

 

I agree, there isn't really a downside, 1 year deal, bad year he's going to get 20 goals I think..good year he might get 30..low risk..high reward.

 

I just read that his contract won't be for $6 million, but for 3.5 which is way more appropriate. I really like this signing for that price.  But I don't think he'll get 30.  He is slightly declining, and add in a new system and teammates, and the fact that usually our veteran signings don't do as well offensively as they used to, I'm betting he nails 20 goals, 25 if we're lucky.

 

But I feel a lot better about this signing, and am actually excited about it for 3.5 million.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 11:00 AM

Okay, and? Have you looked at his stats? The way he is declining hes probably not going to repeat those stats. 

 

So what he gets downgraded to the # 6 scorer?

 

You claim that there are youngsters lined up to take his spot, but all of them are unproven, even Nyquist and Tatar did well in less than a half season.

 

None of the youngsters we (myself included) are all excited about have played a full season in the NHL, plus they are all headed for the dreaded Sophomore slump.

 

And I am looking at his stats, he has scored 20 goals every year except for a 47 and a 57 game seasons.

He has been a minus twice in his entire career.

 

In his last full season (2011-2012) he put up 27 32 with a plus 16.

 

So my question to you would be who's stats are you looking at that make you think a youngster should take his spot?

 

Which was your original statement!


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 11:00 AM

I wouldn't mind this deal at all if A.) We'd already re-signed Brunner and B.) we'd been able to unload Sammy.

I won't hate this deal as long as we don't re-sign Cleary. I will hate everything if we don't re-sign Brunner.

I don't know if any if these things are related, but I have feels and it makes sense in my head right now.

 

Agreed



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Posted 05 July 2013 - 11:01 AM

I wouldn't mind this deal at all if A.) We'd already re-signed Brunner and B.) we'd been able to unload Sammy.

I won't hate this deal as long as we don't re-sign Cleary. I will hate everything if we don't re-sign Brunner.

I don't know if any if these things are related, but I have feels and it makes sense in my head right now.

 

I lurve this post.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 11:01 AM

I wouldn't mind this deal at all if A.) We'd already re-signed Brunner and B.) we'd been able to unload Sammy.

I won't hate this deal as long as we don't re-sign Cleary. I will hate everything if we don't re-sign Brunner.

I don't know if any if these things are related, but I have feels and it makes sense in my head right now.

 

 

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 11:02 AM

IF and I stress IF this is the replacement for Cleary and there's still another signing on the way then I'm OK with it.

 

OK with it is about as good you can get with Holland and free agents.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 11:04 AM

I'm somewhat surprised by all the negativity here. I mean, I loathe Holland's veteran fetish as much as the next guy, but there's a lot to like about this deal. Or, ok, maybe not a lot, but it's not like this makes absolutely no sense and will only rob a kid of a spot and Dear-God-will-someone-please-think-of-the-children etc.

 

He's coming here to win a Cup. He's Dallas Drake Version 2.0.

 

Plus, I've gotta think this means Cleary is gone.

There's two things at work here - there's the idea itself of Alfredsson being a Wing for a year, which I think is AWESOME.  But there's also the idea of what it means.  If it's simply swapping #11's and letting Cleary go, so be it.  But Alfredsson costs a little more, and if this deal means that they can't retain Brunner (or don't find a decently priced 2nd line center), then that could be a net negative.

 

Alfredsson, even more than Iginla, always seemed like a natural fit for the Red Wings some day.  This really is the "IKEA Red Wings" now!



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Posted 05 July 2013 - 11:05 AM

If Alfredsson is the start of a big summer, it's going to be a good one.  If he is the end, next season is going to be every bit of the slog last was.


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