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Wings sign Stephen Weiss, 5-years, $24.5m

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ya when that happens everyone here will change there story and pretend they were never 100% certain on it .... will weiss get pts on detroit? yes ... not hard when you play with datsyuk zetterberg etc , its like rob brown getting 137 points with mario lemieux .... doesnt make you a great player, i just think hes overrated and for 5 years is WAY TOO LONG ... i could of lived with 2 yrs but 5 ouch

well you asked me earlier and i told you , not much out there this year

whats our top 6??? zetterberg datsyuk weiss alfredsson franzen and who? chances are bertuzzi or some other veteran , which means the kids still play at the bottom

It's called depth...

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Tatar may actually be the better player...and he's younger and more physical. He has earned the spot and playing time.

He sure does deserve a spot on the roster, but Brunner will be a 30-40 goal scorer a year, I will bet ANYONE $20.

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You have an issue with a guy who averages 74 games a year, .602 ppg and is 30, for 5 years at 4.9 a year?

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115, but who worries about facts, right. Arbitrarian overreaction is the better way to go.

i was wrong about the # but you got my point ;) ... same like kevin stevens putting up all those goals back in the day , doesnt make him great

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I'd link you to capgeek, but every time a team makes a signing their page crashes from views.

With Alfredsson taking up $3.5m and Weiss' $4.9m Detroit should have $2.3m left.

I think that's based on Detroit keeping Alfredsson's bonuses on this year, we push those to next year and we will have 4.3, not counting what cap we shed.

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Pretty sure you were ragging on Holland in the other thread for not signing Komisarek...but i think that explains a lot in itself...lol

explains alot ? it was a 1 yr deal i suggested for 3rd pairing ... not a 5 year term and 5 mill cap hit , i dont think it was a big risk were stuck with weiss for 5 yrs now

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Congrats on keeping to your plan of making the team bigger, younger, and increasing scoring by signing a 5'11 guy who got .24 ppg last year to a 4.9 5 year deal that will take a roster spot from one of the kids going forward.

Holland sure is doing a great job. Good show old boy.

What a s***ty, s***ty, s***ty job he has done the last three years. If Jim Nill was the reason we draft well, this team is going to be defunct in five years.

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Tatar may actually be the better player...and he's younger and more physical. He has earned the spot and playing time.

unfortunetly probably 4th line on this team , wouldnt surprise me that he demands a trade again and holland deals him

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Considering the crazy amounts that was being thrown out for Weiss this deal isn't too shabby now hopefully he becomes more of a shooter than a passer.

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I guess one thing that's interesting is didn't Lecavalier sign for 5 years @ $22.5 mill? I think he's only 3 years older than Weiss, and much bigger.

Ya I would have rather wanted Lecavalier than Weiss.

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@Real_ESPNLeBrun: Like the old days in Hockeytown. Great day for GM Ken Holland and the Wings.

this is nice to see, it's been a few years since these things were said about the wings, it's good to know Holland didn't just say "we like our team" and I hope i won't have to see everyone post that 100 times a day anymore. Add to the Boston letting their team fall apart and I think we should be the favourites at least in our division next season! Go Wings!

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LAST WARNING AND THEN PEOPLE ARE GETTING SUSPENSIONS.

Stay on topic. If I have to delete another post, someone's getting a vacation.

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I actually love the cap-hit for Weiss and the signing overall is looking great because we need at center. Now its the Alfredsson signing that has me thinking we essentially chose a guy about to retire for Cleary and Brunner. Brunner should have been signed before UFA for the money and term they were looking for.

It looks like we have run out of cap since we still need to sign Nyquist, Smith, and Andersson. Bye Brunner :(

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I guess one thing that's interesting is didn't Lecavalier sign for 5 years @ $22.5 mill? I think he's only 3 years older than Weiss, and much bigger.

Weiss moves a lot better than Vinny. I think that was the big thing.

I actually love the cap-hit for Weiss and the signing overall is looking great because we need at center. Now its the Alfredsson signing that has me thinking we essentially chose a guy about to retire for Cleary and Brunner. Brunner should have been signed before UFA for the money and term they were looking for.

It looks like we have run out of cap since we still need to sign Nyquist, Smith, and Andersson. Bye Brunner :(

I dont think even Brunner knew what he was worth. His is just an odd situation.

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I agree with Goalie Man Pat, Weiss moves a lot better than Vinny does.

And I think Brunner himself was just interested in finding out what he is worth, his agent on the other hand I think is interested in getting him the most for his client (there is my no crap post for the day).

I think Brunner put himself in a position the Wings didn't want to be in.

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Didn't Weiss wear #9 in FLA? We all know that number is out of the question here, wonder what he'll choose?

18 is available.

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The wings still have plenty of cap flexibility. Taking Alfies' bonus out of this year, they still have approximately $5 mil left. That likely makes retaining Brunner dicey. Dumping TooToo or Eaves gives them 6-7, which would then likely allow them to sign Brunner and the RFAs. The question is, do they want to keep both of Tatar and Brunner?

Also, think that Nyquist could be assigned to GR for the summer and start the season with the RW as a replacement for Sammy or Helm if still on LTIR (correct me if I am wrong).

Really, Wings have plenty of flexibility for another signing. Whether they want Brunner or not is the question.

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The wings still have plenty of cap flexibility. Taking Alfies' bonus out of this year, they still have approximately $5 mil left. That likely makes retaining Brunner dicey. Dumping TooToo or Eaves gives them 6-7, which would then likely allow them to sign Brunner and the RFAs. The question is, do they want to keep both of Tatar and Brunner?

Also, think that Nyquist could be assigned to GR for the summer and start the season with the RW as a replacement for Sammy or Helm if still on LTIR (correct me if I am wrong).

Really, Wings have plenty of flexibility for another signing. Whether they want Brunner or not is the question.

Capgeek's cap calculator has removed Alfredsson's bonus and shows Detroit as having $2.3 million in cap room left.

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Capgeek's cap calculator has removed Alfredsson's bonus and shows Detroit as having $2.3 million in cap room left.

It is now in his salary. Either way, they are counting it as a current year hit, so the upper number remains 4.8 mil or so - I just calculated it. It does not take too many roster moves to fit everyone in and re-sign Brunner if they want him, IMO.

It is now in his salary. Either way, they are counting it as a current year hit, so the upper number remains 4.8 mil or so - I just calculated it. It does not take too many roster moves to fit everyone in and re-sign Brunner if they want him, IMO.

Now it is back in bonuses.

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First time in years we can roll three scoring lines. Very, very excited at the signings abd departures. Stronger down the all important middle, a wingers for Datsyuk, and maybe everyone else goes back to the bottom 6 roles they are supposed to play.

And no overpayments. Glorious. And Ye might not be done yet. Still have to clear roster space.

As much as I like Brunner, I forgot about Tatar. Tatar could be just as good with a full season. Which is probably why Brunner hasn't signed yet.

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