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#41 blgillett

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 02:39 PM

I still think we are after a top 4 D-man moving Sammy will help with the money but we have to many player already so I like to think Sammy Eaves hate to say it but Emerton then Totoo if we sign Brunner
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Posted 05 July 2013 - 02:45 PM

If we could move some "dead money" on pine riders for a good defenseman I'd have to rethink my stance on Holland and eat crow.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 02:47 PM

I still think we are after a top 4 D-man moving Sammy will help with the money but we have to many player already so I like to think Sammy Eaves hate to say it but Emerton then Totoo if we sign Brunner

 

 

 

 

 

nobody is trading for alfredsson



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Posted 05 July 2013 - 02:49 PM

 

I still think we are after a top 4 D-man moving Sammy will help with the money but we have to many player already so I like to think Sammy Eaves hate to say it but Emerton then Totoo if we sign Brunner

 

 

 

 

 

nobody is trading for alfredsson

 

 

I don't think Detroit has any plans of trading Alfredsson.  :ninja:

 

But seriously, you're right. No one is going to take Samuelsson unless it's part of a package that includes valuable players.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 03:14 PM

don't know were that came from never said anything about Alfie I was talking about guys we need to move yet

 
I don't think Detroit has any plans of trading Alfredsson.  :ninja:
 
But seriously, you're right. No one is going to take Samuelsson unless it's part of a package that includes valuable players.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 03:50 PM

Nyquist. Datsyuk. Franzen
Zetterberg Weiss. Alfredsson
Tatar. Andersson. Bertuzzi
Abdelkader Helm. Miller/Tootoo

Emmerton
Eaves
Sammy

No one knows if Helm is going to be able to play unfortunately, btw.

He was booked to participate in the prospect camp or something like that coming up.  I'm guessing they want to test drive Helm and let the new kids see how fast the NHL can be.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 04:01 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong but the $2.3 number comes with accepting Alfies whole $5.5 right? Only $3.5 should be counted up front so technically shouldn't our number be closer

to $4.3 right now? I'm totally with you on Samuelsson!!

I have read much of this salary can be deferred to the '14-'15 season.



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Posted 05 July 2013 - 04:16 PM

 

I don't think Detroit has any plans of trading Alfredsson.  :ninja:

 

But seriously, you're right. No one is going to take Samuelsson unless it's part of a package that includes valuable players.

 

 

lol oops my bad so much alfie weiss talk i f***ed up:( ya id be stunned if anybody took him i just cant imagine having alfredsson samuelsson bertuzzi in our top 9, wonder what holland is gonna do , wouldnt surprise me to see bertuzzi traded as well just too many bodies , who would bertuzzi be with ? 3rd line?



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Posted 05 July 2013 - 05:10 PM

Sammy really does need to go but with a NTC & his salary still counting against the cap if sent to the minors, you have to hope the organization can lean on him to waive his NTC.  As the roster sits now if Helm's healthy, Emmerton winds up in GR after making it through waivers unclaimed & either Eaves or Tootoo get packaged up with Tatar in a trade, possibly along with Lashoff too.  Just my guess on what will happen NOT what I want to happen, which would leave:

 

Z-Pavs-Abby

Mule-Weiss-Alfie

Sammy-Andy-Gus

Bert-Helm-Miller

Eaves or Tootoo

 

Kronner-Ericsson

DeKeyser-Kindl

Smith-Quincey

Lashoff (if not traded off) or veteran d-man (either UFA or trade)

 

Howie

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 05:13 PM

Sammy really does need to go but with a NTC & his salary still counting against the cap if sent to the minors, you have to hope the organization can lean on him to waive his NTC.  As the roster sits now if Helm's healthy, Emmerton winds up in GR after making it through waivers unclaimed & either Eaves or Tootoo get packaged up with Tatar in a trade, possibly along with Lashoff too.  Just my guess on what will happen NOT what I want to happen, which would leave:

 

Once sent to Toledo Sammy will waive his NTC out of anger. Any player would if they were sent down to the minors.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 05:14 PM

Once sent to Toledo Sammy will waive his NTC out of anger. Any player would if they were sent down to the minors.

 

Or you know he might just not waive it out of spite to stick it to Kenny.  



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Posted 05 July 2013 - 05:18 PM

Sammy really does need to go but with a NTC & his salary still counting against the cap if sent to the minors, you have to hope the organization can lean on him to waive his NTC.  As the roster sits now if Helm's healthy, Emmerton winds up in GR after making it through waivers unclaimed & either Eaves or Tootoo get packaged up with Tatar in a trade, possibly along with Lashoff too.  Just my guess on what will happen NOT what I want to happen, which would leave:
 
Z-Pavs-Abby
Mule-Weiss-Alfie
Sammy-Andy-Gus
Bert-Helm-Miller
Eaves or Tootoo
 
Kronner-Ericsson
DeKeyser-Kindl
Smith-Quincey
Lashoff (if not traded off) or veteran d-man (either UFA or trade)
 
Howie
Monster


Well if we are trading Tatar we should be getting something good back

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 05:21 PM

 

Or you know he might just not waive it out of spite to stick it to Kenny.  

we can survive the year with his salary on the books - he can have fun in toledo.


Its a wonder the Flyers could buyout Bryz - I mean the guy is mentally insane - thats a lot worse than Sammy's booboo. 


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 05:22 PM

Well if we are trading Tatar we should be getting something good back

 

It would either be prospects/picks or a dman given the glut at forward.  Tatar, Tootoo, & Lashoff for a good 2nd pairing dman maybe?  Maybe fleece a team for a #2?



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Posted 05 July 2013 - 05:23 PM

 

It would either be prospects/picks or a dman given the glut at forward.  Tatar, Tootoo, & Lashoff for a good 2nd pairing dman maybe?  Maybe fleece a team for a #2?

Make it Tatar, Tootoo, Quincey and a 2nd for a decent Dman. 


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 05:35 PM

I think we need to work a deal with Winnipeg.  They don't have many players signed compared to us with too many.  Aim for Bogosian or Kane somehow.  



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Posted 05 July 2013 - 05:37 PM

I think we need to work a deal with Winnipeg.  They don't have many players signed compared to us with too many.  Aim for Bogosian or Kane somehow.  

We would have to move quality of course. I would be happy to land Bogo but its gonna start with Nyquist/Tatar and likely Smith/DeKeyser then add a high pick (I dont know how I feel about that). Then we have to find the salary space to sign him by convincing them to take a cap dump like Sammy somehow.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 07:59 PM

If we could move some "dead money" on pine riders for a good defenseman I'd have to rethink my stance on Holland and eat crow.

We need a top pairing Defenseman and I feel we could be a real contender for Eastern champs
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Posted 05 July 2013 - 08:01 PM

We would have to move quality of course. I would be happy to land Bogo but its gonna start with Nyquist/Tatar and likely Smith/DeKeyser then add a high pick (I dont know how I feel about that). Then we have to find the salary space to sign him by convincing them to take a cap dump like Sammy somehow.

 

I wouldn't trade Dekeyser straight up for Bogosian.



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Posted 05 July 2013 - 08:20 PM

You guys are being silly... the Red Wings defense is fine and right on par with most other teams in the league. It is far better than s***sburg's for example, better than the Rangers, the Habs, the Kings, the Ducks, etc. Keep in mind, we will now have Danny Dekeyser for an entire season... look at his impact he had once we signed him. Even Babs said we did not make playoffs had we not signed him. Also, last year we had tons of injuries to our Defense so they were never really able to mesh with a partner. I think Smith especially will show much more offense abilities this year while he gets to mesh with a partner. 

 

This is the lineup I think Babs will look to start the season with and it looks damn good to me.

 

Zetterberg- Datsyuk- Abdelkator

Alfredson- Weiss- Franzen

Nyquivst- Helm- Tatar (omg that 3rd line is just beautifully filled with speed and skill)

Eaves- Anderson- Miller/Bertuzzi

 

Kronwall- Ericsson

Dekeyser- Smith (I really want Babs to try this out)

Kindl- Quincy

 

Obviously this means Cleary, Brunner walk, and Kenny trades Sammy and Tootoo for picks which I am more than okay with. 

 

I think this is a SOLID team.







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