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#21 Crymson

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 11:06 AM

 

Yes the cap hit is still there since he's a 35 player.

 

And I'll ignore the dumb limo ride comment.

 

No, it's there because the CBA does not allow cap hits above 900K to be stashed in the minors anymore. Age doesn't go into the equation.



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Posted 07 July 2013 - 11:32 AM

Thanks for the info and sorry about the tasteless comment. I've removed it.
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Posted 07 July 2013 - 11:35 AM

With that roster, I think another trip to the 2nd round would be sufficient.  I'd be surprised if they get further.  This isn't exactly the 2009 roster.  

 

Also, I like Nyquist on the 2nd line over Abdelkader.  Abby on the top two lines is just further indication that we have a lack of real scoring wingers.  But Nyquist deserves to play with a Weiss or Franzen.  He has a higher ceiling than Abby as well.  


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Posted 07 July 2013 - 11:37 AM

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 11:41 AM

To those people saying Cup or bust, why do you feel that way?  I was saying stuff like that for about 15 years, but not anymore.  Roster isn't that good and IMO it's an unrealistic expectation with this group.  

 

We replaced Filppula with Weiss and added Alfredsson.  Is that really all last year's team was missing?  


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Posted 07 July 2013 - 11:41 AM

Hmm..  bad news, if true, on the Samuelsson front.  But if capgeek.com's 5.5M Alfredsson cap-hit is incaccurate - - and it's more like 3M - - then moving or buying out Tootoo or Eaves should be enough to get us under the cap.

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Daniel Alfredsson ($5.500m) 
Johan Franzen ($3.955m) / Stephen Weiss ($4.900m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) 
Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($3.000m) 
Gustav Nyquist ($1.875m) / Joakim Andersson ($1.875m) / Tomas Tatar ($0.840m) 
Drew Miller ($1.350m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m) / 
DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) 
Kyle Quincey ($3.775m) / Danny DeKeyser ($1.350m) 
Brendan Smith ($1.875m) / Jakub Kindl ($2.400m) 
Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) / 
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m) 
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m) 
OTHER
Buyout: Jordin Tootoo ($0.000m) 
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,194,545; BONUSES: $3,010,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster):- $884,545



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Posted 07 July 2013 - 11:46 AM

Less travel, easier teams to play against. 

 

I'm thinking at least East Finals.

 

 

 

 

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 11:48 AM

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 11:57 AM

To those people saying Cup or bust, why do you feel that way?  I was saying stuff like that for about 15 years, but not anymore.  Roster isn't that good and IMO it's an unrealistic expectation with this group.  
 
We replaced Filppula with Weiss and added Alfredsson.  Is that really all last year's team was missing?  


Your also forgetting a healthy helm, a full season with nyquist, Tatar, Anderson, dekeyser. On top of that experience. Playoff experience for a lot of guys. This team is much better than last season

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 12:05 PM

With that roster, I think another trip to the 2nd round would be sufficient.  I'd be surprised if they get further.  This isn't exactly the 2009 roster.  
 
Also, I like Nyquist on the 2nd line over Abdelkader.  Abby on the top two lines is just further indication that we have a lack of real scoring wingers.  But Nyquist deserves to play with a Weiss or Franzen.  He has a higher ceiling than Abby as well.

I disagree that this is the 2009 roster and I ask think this is a team poised to make it to the conference finals or the SCF. We are a better team than last year. Even last year, alfredsson but up decent numbers on an offensive depleted team. If healthy he can score 70 points in his sleep playing with Pasha, Hank, Mule Ect....he is also a VERY good two way player. I wasn't keen on this trade when it happened but if you look at the guys stats and who he has had to play with, I am confident that he will generate offense that we did not have last year. Weiss is better than flip and he is stronger. That's an instant upgrade and again you have a shoot first mentality. Our third line is better than 2009 and with the emergence on Gus, Dekeyser and Big E, our young guys are turning into legit players for this roster. Howard was awesome and is playing the best hockey of his career. I certainly think this team can be a contender. A few tweaks and we will be close.
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Posted 07 July 2013 - 12:12 PM

I think a lot of folks are still wondering what a healthy team can do as last season, even though it was only 48 games, evey game counted. Getting into the playoffs by winning the last game of the season and two rounds of hockey where each series went to 7 games. Yes, take confidence out of that the Wings were the only team in be playoffs to push the Hawks to 7 games, but turnovers are what burnt this team.

I guess any addition to that success and refinement is a bonus, but maybe that is why folks are having a hard time handling the dead weight that canot be shed while the 1-2 players we want re-signed weren't due to money.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 12:20 PM

Your also forgetting a healthy helm, a full season with nyquist, Tatar, Anderson, dekeyser. On top of that experience. Playoff experience for a lot of guys. This team is much better than last season

 

I hope so.  Seems like we've had the injury bug for some time now, so you never know about the health.  


I disagree that this is the 2009 roster and I ask think this is a team poised to make it to the conference finals or the SCF. We are a better team than last year. Even last year, alfredsson but up decent numbers on an offensive depleted team. If healthy he can score 70 points in his sleep playing with Pasha, Hank, Mule Ect....he is also a VERY good two way player. I wasn't keen on this trade when it happened but if you look at the guys stats and who he has had to play with, I am confident that he will generate offense that we did not have last year. Weiss is better than flip and he is stronger. That's an instant upgrade and again you have a shoot first mentality. Our third line is better than 2009 and with the emergence on Gus, Dekeyser and Big E, our young guys are turning into legit players for this roster. Howard was awesome and is playing the best hockey of his career. I certainly think this team can be a contender. A few tweaks and we will be close.

 

Scoring 70 points at age 40 is no small feat in the NHL, especially doing it "in his sleep" as you put it.

 

The few tweaks would be nice, but that depends on how much cap room we'll have during the deadline.  Doesn't seem like we'll have much.  Besides, Holland has become stale at deadlines.


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Posted 07 July 2013 - 12:24 PM

 
I hope so.  Seems like we've had the injury bug for some time now, so you never know about the health.  

 
Scoring 70 points at age 40 is no small feat in the NHL, especially doing it "in his sleep" as you put it.
 
The few tweaks would be nice, but that depends on how much cap room we'll have during the deadline.  Doesn't seem like we'll have much.  Besides, Holland has become stale at deadlines.


Hossa barely got to 70 pts

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 12:33 PM

To those people saying Cup or bust, why do you feel that way?  I was saying stuff like that for about 15 years, but not anymore.  Roster isn't that good and IMO it's an unrealistic expectation with this group.  

 

We replaced Filppula with Weiss and added Alfredsson.  Is that really all last year's team was missing?  

 

I believe we can win the Cup with this roster because it IS good.  Our defense is going to be really good in a few years, but what impressed me most is their ability to lock it down in big games.  They may not finish first in the league, but the balance of youth and experience, added to their big game performances, makes me think they've really got something.

 

Plus, I expect big things from Tatar and Nyquist this year, making a potent third line.  Weiss makes our second line a good one finally, and a top line of Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Alfredsson could be lethal.  The only line that would lack an identity is our fourth, and it's still early.  We've got to dump some roster space, and maybe Holland makes unloads some contracts for a gritty fourth line.  

 

Look at how well they did this year with a garbage roster.  Now, the roster issues will be resolved, the lines are balanced and have identities, they're motivated, and they can only do better than last year.  

 

I know playoffs are a crap shoot, but does anyone really see any team other than Boston or maybe Pittsburgh posing a really serious threat to the Wings?  Boston got a little worse, and Pittsburgh is always a 50/50 flip on whether they'll show up or not in the playoffs.

 

I think we'll finish top three in the Conference, and make the Finals at least.

 

We'll have balanced, deep scoring, enthusiastic youth, we'll be more aggressive (Tatar, Alfredsson, Weiss [to a point]) than we've been before.  It's not an all-star roster, but you don't need one to win anymore.

 

Every area has been improved, it's hard to see how this roster wouldn't compete for the Cup.


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Posted 07 July 2013 - 12:35 PM

Hossa barely got to 70 pts

 

And he wasn't age 40.  


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Posted 07 July 2013 - 12:38 PM

 
And he wasn't age 40.  


Yah. 70 pts today is like 100 ten years ago.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 12:56 PM

I predict that if we stay healthy and Z gets to adjust back to LW with Dats at C we will see Z put up 30 goals this season. I'll also predict Weiss hitting 60 points with talented wingers. All of this hinges on Helm's health and staying healthy to allow our Centre depth to move Z to wing. I HOPE Franzen senses that 2nd amnesty buyout could be for him next offseason and plays like he wants to keep his job.


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Posted 07 July 2013 - 12:58 PM

expectations for the season? a healthy one. please...? *knocks on wood*  


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Posted 07 July 2013 - 01:01 PM

I predict that if we stay healthy and Z gets to adjust back to LW with Dats at C we will see Z put up 30 goals this season. I'll also predict Weiss hitting 60 points with talented wingers. All of this hinges on Helm's health and staying healthy to allow our Centre depth to move Z to wing. I HOPE Franzen senses that 2nd amnesty buyout could be for him next offseason and plays like he wants to keep his job.


How would you line them up?

Zetts-Dats-Abby
Nyquist-Franzen-Alfredsson
Tatar-Weiss-Helm
Miller-Emmerton-Andersson

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 01:10 PM

playoffs after that who knows





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