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#61 darkmanx

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 09:18 PM

Anyone trashing Abdelkader is being ridiculous.  Is he going to be a great player?  No.  I don't care who's line he's on.  Is he a solid player for us and very valuable member of this team?  Absolutely!  First, he hits more than almost the rest of the team combined.  Without Abby, we have very little physical presence.  He's also a willing fighter.  For being a grit type player, he's a pretty good skater with good speed.  He can definitely help on the offensive side of the things, where i think he will continue to improve.  However, he's not a sniper and never will be.  He's just doesn't have the hands or touch.  I think he's being wasted with Datsyuk b/c Pavel needs a guy he can drop it to who can fire it......a guy like Shanahan or Hull.  Maybe with Weiss we'll see more of Datsyuk and Zetterberg together.  I'd like to see what Abby can do with Helm. 

 

I don't think people are trashing on Abby. I think they hate the idea of him playing top line again in front of way more talented players, at least that's where my issue is. I see it the same as Cleary playing in the top 6.. doesn't make sense.



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Posted 07 July 2013 - 09:19 PM

LOL

While it's always nice to see someone amused, these types of posts are frowned upon and usually end up deleted.  Once you are finished laughing, please share why you are so amused.  "LOL" adds nothing to the conversation.


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Posted 07 July 2013 - 09:27 PM

Solid grinder, nothing more. 

 

Should stick to centering our 4th line in in my opinion. 




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Posted 07 July 2013 - 09:39 PM

While it's always nice to see someone amused, these types of posts are frowned upon and usually end up deleted.  Once you are finished laughing, please share why you are so amused.  "LOL" adds nothing to the conversation.


sorry, i thought it was obvious.

predicting that abdelkader will triple his career high in goals and points made me LOL

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 09:59 PM

I hope I have to eat crow but I would be extremely surprised to see abdelkader in the 40's and I'll be happy in the 30's.... People will try to compare him to homer cause of his job but people forget just how good holmers hands were, and I'm not just talking deflections.... If anybody recalls his penalty shot....

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 10:18 PM

Abby is a frequent visitor of this site and is sick of Flashy making him the chick in his GDTs so by that motivation alone he can reach that goal of 55 points.


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Posted 07 July 2013 - 10:34 PM

realistic for Abdelkader on a line with Z and Dats all year, and if he gets PP time is about 15 goals and 20-25 assists max.  Expecting anything more from a guy to fetch pucks and hit guys is just crazy.  I agree with darkmanx that maybe a better offensive player should be up there like maybe loading up and putting Alfredsson on that line, but with all the forwards we have signed the roster is, and will continue to be a patchwork.  Until the lines are built for chemistry, we won't have set top 6-9.  Either way, I hope Abdelkader has a really good season, or gets moved down to the 4th line where maybe he belongs.


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Posted 07 July 2013 - 10:39 PM

no way abby gets 20.


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Posted 07 July 2013 - 10:52 PM

I could see him getting 15-20 goals and 25-30 assists with a full season. In a couple years I could see him getting 20 goals and 30 assists.


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Posted 07 July 2013 - 11:13 PM

20 goals.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:18 AM

If Abby spends the season on Zetterberg and Datsyuk's wing his value will be measured in how productive that line is in general.

His role will be to get the puck and create space.

If he does those things well, I think he 'll score 15 goals through osmosis alone.

Edited by rick zombo, 08 July 2013 - 12:20 AM.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 06:27 AM

I love Abby for his grit, hustle, determination and for never backing down to anyone, but I'm sorry, you could put anyone's grandmother on a line with Datsyuk and they are going to score. We have seen this over and over and over. You put someone who isn't scoring with Dats and they start scoring. Meanwhile Dats is always scoring. Hmmm?

 

Abby is a great guy, but he simply does not have the hands or skill to handle all the brilliant gift passes and plays Datsyuk is handing him. How many times did he get some awesome pass from Datsyuk right in front of the net only to fail to get the puck up or make the shot? Sure he got a few, but he simply can't be consistent in handling Datsyuk's level of skill, insane moves and off the cuff brilliance. To keep messing with this, to somehow try and figure out how a once in a generation skill guy can be better paired with a hard working grunt is insanity and a waste. Dats needs a line mate that works hard to free HIM up, to give HIM time and space, not the other way around. 



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Posted 08 July 2013 - 06:32 AM

 
I did look it up. He's got 28 regular season goals and five playoff goals.


Lol...I think we were trolled but a 12 year old but this was funny none the less...

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 06:46 AM

Solid grinder, nothing more. 
 
Should stick to centering our 4th line in in my opinion. 


I don't see why he ever plays center to be honest. He's a protypical, grinding winger. He is the mold for a 3rd/4th line winger. He doesn't skate or pass like a center. Add that to how we may have the best bottom two centers in the league (Helm and Andersson) and it doesn't make a ton of sense for him to be there.

Abby is a waste in the top 6. It was fun watching him last year but I really think 35- 40 points is his ceiling and that wouldn't justify his playing time. Honestly, this just made me realize how much we need a Homer type (but he has to be better than Cleary). It would be nice to have Brunner, we need a shooter, but he could truly be Bruunstrom/Leino all over again.

Nyquist. Datsyuk. Franzen
Zetterberg. Weiss. Alfredsson
Tatar. Andersson. Bertuzzi

Those are three great lines. I wish people would realize how good Nyquist, Tatar, and Andersson are. I think Andersson will be one of the best third line players in the league very soon. Tatar brings so much to the table. You'll be hard pressed to find anyone higher on Nyquist than me.

no way abby gets 20.


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Posted 08 July 2013 - 09:15 AM

I love specualting so:
If Abby gets 18-20 mins a nite with the Twins he is easily a 35-40 pt guy.
It Tootoo gets 15 mins a night he is a 25-35 pt guy ad well

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 09:42 AM

I love specualting so:
If Abby gets 18-20 mins a nite with the Twins he is easily a 35-40 pt guy.
It Tootoo gets 15 mins a night he is a 25-35 pt guy ad well

I always felt if toots was put on a scoring line he would thrive. 


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Posted 08 July 2013 - 10:28 AM

I could see him getting 15-20 goals and 25-30 assists with a full season. In a couple years I could see him getting 20 goals and 30 assists.

No way he becomes a more offensively complete player than Flip. And that assist number is crazy, look at his career.


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Posted 08 July 2013 - 10:40 AM

I always felt if toots was put on a scoring line he would thrive. 


I couldn't agree more!! Would love to see it and hope he remains a Wing if they will actually play him. If not, I hope he goes somewhere and gets his ice time...he earned his ice time and more here imo.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 01:32 PM

I always felt if toots was put on a scoring line he would thrive. 

 

Put me on Pavel's line and i'll get 15 goals and i'm fat and out of shape. I would just go to the net with my stick on the ice all ngiht long. lol


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Posted 08 July 2013 - 01:45 PM

Coming from an Abby fan I don't see him getting more than 30 points total.

 

PROVE ME WRONG ABBY!!!!

 

However Abby has always reminded me to a certain degree (and I may get shot on here for saying this)

 

But Kris Draperish


Edited by St. Michael (the Red Wing), 08 July 2013 - 01:47 PM.






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