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#61 DickieDunn

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 11:15 AM

Pretty reasonable. Why did he file for arbitration then? Holland was throwing 700k per year contract offers at him? 


Probably to kick start the negotiations

Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!


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Posted 16 July 2013 - 11:18 AM

Pretty reasonable. Why did he file for arbitration then? Holland was throwing 700k per year contract offers at him? 

Arbitration can be an advantage for both parties.  It stops other teams from putting in offer sheets, which allows the team and player to focus on themselves and not worry about others.

 

It is a sign from both that they are serious about staying together.  If a player goes to arbitration, he is saying that he's not interested in going to another team.  If the team doesn't want him, they can set him free and he can talk to other teams.

 

It also keeps both parties honest about how much/little they will offer.  The team can't say, "We have your rights so we're going to pay you peanuts." because they might end up paying more than the guy is worth if it goes to arbitration.  By the same token, the player can't hold out beyond what is reasonable because he might end up getting less than he's worth from an arbitrator.

 

I generally look at it as a good sign if a guy files.  It's like a promise ring between people waiting for agreement on the pre-nup.  You know the wedding's coming soon.


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Posted 16 July 2013 - 11:04 PM

Arbitration can be an advantage for both parties.  It stops other teams from putting in offer sheets, which allows the team and player to focus on themselves and not worry about others.
 
It is a sign from both that they are serious about staying together.  If a player goes to arbitration, he is saying that he's not interested in going to another team.  If the team doesn't want him, they can set him free and he can talk to other teams.
 
It also keeps both parties honest about how much/little they will offer.  The team can't say, "We have your rights so we're going to pay you peanuts." because they might end up paying more than the guy is worth if it goes to arbitration.  By the same token, the player can't hold out beyond what is reasonable because he might end up getting less than he's worth from an arbitrator.
 
I generally look at it as a good sign if a guy files.  It's like a promise ring between people waiting for agreement on the pre-nup.  You know the wedding's coming soon.


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Posted 17 July 2013 - 05:51 AM

Very nice re-sign!

 

$1.262 is great!  That is the kind of raise I was hoping for! Also good is, after the two years he is still an RFA... I like it!

 

Only $1M left in cap...Nyquist and Andersson will get at least $1M each....can't wait to see who has to pack their bags!

Plus they seem determined to sign Cleary. :scared:



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Posted 17 July 2013 - 06:04 AM

Plus they seem determined to sign Cleary. :scared:

 

Holland has already said that it probably won't happen.



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Posted 17 July 2013 - 09:29 AM

Plus they seem determined to sign Cleary. :scared:

 

Nyquist and Andersson ARE the priorities... I think even Brendan Morrow is ahead of Dan Cleary on the to do list.  Dan Cleary is about as high on that list as walking into a room 20 minutes after someone farts and billowing through the waft of stench...


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Posted 17 July 2013 - 11:04 AM

 
Nyquist and Andersson ARE the priorities... I think even Brendan Morrow is ahead of Dan Cleary on the to do list.  Dan Cleary is about as high on that list as walking into a room 20 minutes after someone farts and billowing through the waft of stench...


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Posted 17 July 2013 - 11:08 AM

Plus they seem determined to sign Cleary. :scared:

 

I wouldn't say that.  They have said a couple times now that the offer they made Cleary (that he turned down) is their offer.  If he signs elsewhere, they will understand, but if he chooses to accept the Wings offer, and the Wings still have cap space left at that point, then they'll sign Cleary too.



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Posted 17 July 2013 - 04:45 PM

I really don't see Cleary signing elsewhere. How do you explain to your brand new team mates and coaches and media circus that it's ok that your knees are shot and you fall down every shift, because you're a respected leader? Unless we're talking about, like, Florida.


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Posted 17 July 2013 - 05:00 PM

I was listening to. Xm radio and the said that the Wings are working on a deal with Douglas Murray. Anyone knows anything ?

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 07:24 PM

Not a chance. Not only is there no room in any sense, Murray is as slow as they come.

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 09:17 PM

I was listening to. Xm radio and the said that the Wings are working on a deal with Douglas Murray. Anyone knows anything ?


Do they need a pylon for the player parking lot? That's about all he's good for.

Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!


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Posted 17 July 2013 - 09:25 PM

I really don't see Cleary signing elsewhere. How do you explain to your brand new team mates and coaches and media circus that it's ok that your knees are shot and you fall down every shift, because you're a respected leader? Unless we're talking about, like, Florida.

 

Beyond the physical limitations, it's not like Cleary is incapable of providing value to a team at this stage. The Red Wings don't lack for quality leaders and Cleary was widely respected by his teammates here, so that impact could easily translate to another organization. 

 

I'm not really even advocating for the Red Wings to keep Cleary. I just think the LGW consensus (not you, specifically) has turned Cleary into a villain when he still provides qualities that are necessary to win hockey games. 


 
 
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