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#41 Hockeymom1960

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 05:07 PM

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Here's a better one Gary and his minions.

 

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#42 Euro_Twins

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 06:47 PM

is it just me or are there a lot more roadtrips and homestands? seems like there are several groupings of 4 or 5 gams on the road and 4 or 5 at home.


They are grouped together. All our west coast games in one trip. Makes travel much easier.

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#43 cusimano_brothers

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 06:33 AM

Because of his lockout, Uncle Gary's gift to "the greatest fans in the world" ® is "Metropolitan"?


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#44 DickieDunn

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 08:40 AM

New division names: Hanson, Braden, Dunlap, Ogilthorpe.

Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!


#45 haroldsnepsts

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 09:15 AM

Because of his lockout, Uncle Gary's gift to "the greatest fans in the world" ® is "Metropolitan"?

 

The league couldn't just use North, East, South, etc because it would call too much attention to how badly the NHL screwed the Florida teams in the realignment.

 

The two southernmost teams in the league are in what is essentially the Northeastern division.



#46 55fan

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 09:17 AM

Let's be honest:  East, West, Central, and Goulash.


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Posted 20 July 2013 - 09:41 AM

Metropolitan division....

 

It was originally planned to be called the Metrosexual division due to a certain Pittsburgh Penguin...


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Posted 20 July 2013 - 09:43 AM

 
It was originally planned to be called the Metrosexual division due to a certain Pittsburgh Penguin...


Im surprised it wasnt called the Crosby division.

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 10:18 AM

Not a huge fan of it, but geez, it's not the end of the world.  I heard the suggestion of Continental instead, and I liked that better.  Other than Carolina, there aren't any other teams geographically close to Florida.  So I don't really see how they were "screwed". 



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Posted 20 July 2013 - 10:55 AM

Not a huge fan of it, but geez, it's not the end of the world.  I heard the suggestion of Continental instead, and I liked that better.  Other than Carolina, there aren't any other teams geographically close to Florida.  So I don't really see how they were "screwed". 


You really dont see a problem with the Florida teams in our division? There is an entire division between them and the rest of the new Atlantic division

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#51 DickieDunn

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 11:12 AM

I think the idea was that a lot of hockey fans in Florida are transplants from that area, and they wanted to keep the Bettman division teams close enough to drive to the games

Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!


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Posted 20 July 2013 - 11:18 AM

The Florida teams were put there in consideration of the large numbers of Canadians living in Florida.  If you put the two Florida teams in the Metro Conference, then there are two other teams that have to move. One could be Columbus, but then which other one?  You can't split up the 3 NY area teams.  Pitt and Philly need to be in the same division.  If you moved Washington or Carolina, there'd be complaints about that, too.  There's an overabundance of teams in the Northeastern United States and Canada and few in the Southern US.  It seems logical that there would be an imbalance in some way or that some team would be unhappy with the realignment. 



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Posted 20 July 2013 - 12:29 PM

Not a huge fan of it, but geez, it's not the end of the world.  I heard the suggestion of Continental instead, and I liked that better.  Other than Carolina, there aren't any other teams geographically close to Florida.  So I don't really see how they were "screwed". 

 

If you're referring to my comments on Florida's division placement, I don't recall saying it was the end of the world.  But they definitely got screwed.  

 

Out west it's an inevitability that teams will have long travel.  In the east that's less the case.  The Florida teams closest division rival is further away than at least 5 or 6 teams in other divisions.  Doesn't this map seem a little odd?

 

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 12:34 PM

The Florida teams were put there in consideration of the large numbers of Canadians living in Florida.

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If you put the two Florida teams in the Metro Conference, then there are two other teams that have to move. One could be Columbus, but then which other one?  You can't split up the 3 NY area teams.  Pitt and Philly need to be in the same division.  If you moved Washington or Carolina, there'd be complaints about that, too.  There's an overabundance of teams in the Northeastern United States and Canada and few in the Southern US.  It seems logical that there would be an imbalance in some way or that some team would be unhappy with the realignment.

Why can't you split up 3 NY teams? Pitt and Philly don't need to be in the same division.

Of course there will be some imbalance and some teams will be at least moderately unhappy with it. That doesn't make it a bad plan. But to put the two southernmost teams in the whole league in the same division as all the northeast teams is pretty ridiculous.

This restructuring it's pretty clear which teams hold more sway with the league.

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 12:37 PM

From Puck Daddy (audio of Q&A included):

 

Sidney Crosby, upon hearing his division is now named the Metropolitan: "Is it really?"

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 12:58 PM

 

If you're referring to my comments on Florida's division placement, I don't recall saying it was the end of the world.  But they definitely got screwed.  

 

Out west it's an inevitability that teams will have long travel.  In the east that's less the case.  The Florida teams closest division rival is further away than at least 5 or 6 teams in other divisions.  Doesn't this map seem a little odd?

 

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Ok, back on track...

 

They could have put Colorado in the west (giving them 8 teams) and put the Florida teams in the middle (with Colorado gone, this would bring that to 8), then moved Columbus up with the northeast (giving us 7 and the central atlantic 7).


Edited by 55fan, 20 July 2013 - 01:04 PM.

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 10:09 PM

Seems like the Florida teams were added into the Division with us, Toronto, Boston, etc. because they'd get more market exposure, and as such their owners would be more likely to vote for the realignment plan.  If I owned the Lightening and the league came along and told me that my team was now going to be in a division with Carolina, Nashville, Washington, Florida, etc. I would never vote for it.  You are going to make exactly ZERO money if you aren't any good, and never play anyone who's any good, in markets nobody cares about.  But play large market teams four or five times a year is a much better deal for a s***ty team.  Tampa and Florida didn't get screwed, they got payed off in order to get their vote for a realignment plan which is good for pretty much everybody else except them.


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#58 The Axe

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 10:28 PM

Seems like the Florida teams were added into the Division with us, Toronto, Boston, etc. because they'd get more market exposure, and as such their owners would be more likely to vote for the realignment plan.  If I owned the Lightening and the league came along and told me that my team was now going to be in a division with Carolina, Nashville, Washington, Florida, etc. I would never vote for it.  You are going to make exactly ZERO money if you aren't any good, and never play anyone who's any good, in markets nobody cares about.  But play large market teams four or five times a year is a much better deal for a s***ty team.  Tampa and Florida didn't get screwed, they got payed off in order to get their vote for a realignment plan which is good for pretty much everybody else except them.


Spot on. These teams need to be in the division with the large market teams. Better money to keep them alive.

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 10:45 PM

Seems like there's been backlash about the "Metropolitan" thing from hockey fans around the league.

 

Maybe the league will change it due to unrest?  Maybe?  

 

As for the Florida teams, the league should think about moving one to Quebec and the other to Saskatoon.  Tampa becomes the Quebec Nordiques and Florida becomes the Saskatoon Panthers.  Obviously, this would take several seasons to happen.    


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#60 DickieDunn

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 10:55 PM

Miami should have football and nothing else. 5 or 6 Saturdays and 8 Sundays you can draw people. 81 baseball games or 41 NHL or NBA games, there's too much other stuff to do. The panthers were doomed from day 1.

Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!






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