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#21 Crymson

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 12:18 AM

It is really eye opening to see the different levels of talent between 03 and now. Even our best player today are not as good as our top guys then. But that is part of the reason why we are going downhill and it has been 5 years since our last cup. We really need Mantha and the next couple of years 1st rounders to turn out.

 

Guess what? The salary cap didn't exist back then, and Detroit could spend more than almost any other team.

 

Agree.  After the '97 Cup Scotty said "We got a little less pretty and a little more gritty", or words to that effect.  I think that right NOW, we are pretty enough, if we can get a little gritty, then we are golden.  Especially in the east. 

 

Yeah, it's a good thing we got rid of that scrub Lidstrom. He wasn't gritty at all.



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Posted 02 August 2013 - 01:11 AM

With Flip gone, the pretty factor took a nose-dive.

 

Oh, well.  As long as pretty isn't replaced by something else that rhymes with gritty.

 

The problem with looking at the past is that nostalgia tends to be rose-coloured.  We look back at the greats from that time and remember how great they were in their best moments.  And, man, those were some seriously great moments.

 

Ten years from now, we'll look back and think about Pav and Z and we won't remember the first round exits.  We'll remember the '08 cup.  Hopefully we'll have a few more cups to remember from those two.

 

The 2003 team was a bunch of superstars who figured out how to work together and do it well.  They were great, but the best thing about the 2003 team was what they did in 2002.  I'd still take them back in a heartbeat if they could be restored to their 2003 form.


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#23 Euro_Twins

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 08:54 AM

With Flip gone, the pretty factor took a nose-dive.
 
Oh, well.  As long as pretty isn't replaced by something else that rhymes with gritty.
 
The problem with looking at the past is that nostalgia tends to be rose-coloured.  We look back at the greats from that time and remember how great they were in their best moments.  And, man, those were some seriously great moments.
 
Ten years from now, we'll look back and think about Pav and Z and we won't remember the first round exits.  We'll remember the '08 cup.  Hopefully we'll have a few more cups to remember from those two.
 
The 2003 team was a bunch of superstars who figured out how to work together and do it well.  They were great, but the best thing about the 2003 team was what they did in 2002.  I'd still take them back in a heartbeat if they could be restored to their 2003 form.


Yzerman still wouldn't be able to skate if he wad in 2003 form

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 09:35 AM

Yzerman still wouldn't be able to skate if he wad in 2003 form

Ok, then.  I'll take a 1990's Yzerman, hold the mustard.


Money on the board:  Current total: $6

$1 for a goal by any current Wing after whom I have named a hamster.  An additional $5 for a series-clinching goal scored by any current Wing after whom I have named a hamster. $5 if the other team fails to score against a current Wing goalie after whom I have named a hamster.

Hamsters I have had:  (current Wings highlighted)

Henrik Pavel Tomas Nicklas Dominik

Niklas Matthew Daniel Robert

Johan Andreas Valtteri Jonathan

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 10:10 AM

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#26 Marty Barry

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 03:47 PM

 

Guess what? The salary cap didn't exist back then, and Detroit could spend more than almost any other team.

 

 

Yeah, it's a good thing we got rid of that scrub Lidstrom. He wasn't gritty at all.

I hope you don't think that I was taking shots at our skill players, especially Nick.  My post wasn't meant to be inciteful at all.  I was just agreeing with what Scotty said years ago.  Sorry if I came off sounding like a knucklehead, well I am one but...



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Posted 07 August 2013 - 12:53 AM

 They were great, but the best thing about the 2003 team was what they did in 2002.

 

 

Hahaha, so true! :lol:


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