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#21 The Axe

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 04:15 PM

Bowman runs the show where he is. Call him what u want, but he calls the shots.

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 02:34 AM

 
Oh well then my bad, I've thought about the years before the cap. Chiarelli is a great GM, he builds his teams the way they should be built, skilled - tough and hard working. Yes, Rask is overpaid but so what? The guy is elite and deserves elite money but the Seguin move is going to bite them hard in 2 years. You just don't trade players of that caliber.
 
Lamoriello and Lombardi the L brothers are 7 and 8. Lou didn't want to sign this ridiculous Kovy deal because he knew, that Kovalchuk is not the right player for the style he wants to play but the ownership (Vanderbeek himself), forced him to sign the guy so his hands were tied. Lombardi has done some great moves but I want to see how he improves this loaded LA team before putting him into the top 5.

I was about to write something about ownership likely forcing Lamoriello's hand on Kovalchuk, because it is not very like him. Also after finishing Phil Espositos book Thunder & Lightning you realize that the owners or their representatives interfere quite a bit in the work of the general manager. Usually not with very good results. He mentions a done deal with Puppa and pick for Joseph back in the day that could have made a significant difference at the time. He also mentioned that the owners denied him to pursue a deal for Gretzky when in NY. Great read if you like to get behind the scenes a little bit.
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Posted 13 August 2013 - 06:04 AM

That's what makes Illitch a good owner. He hires good people and lets them do their jobs for the most part.
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Posted 13 August 2013 - 11:02 AM

 

Incorrect.  Bowman never held the title of General Manager while in Detroit.  In addition to coaching, he held the title of Director of Player Personnel.  The GM's during Scotty's tenure with the Wings were Bryan Murray for one season, followed by Jimmy Devellano & Kenny.

 

Actually from 1994 to 1997 Jim Devellano and Bowman were co GM's. Ken was the assistant GM and took over as GM in July 1998.


Bowman runs the show where he is. Call him what u want, but he calls the shots.

 

Bowman hasn't run the show anywhere in over a decade. Do you really believe he's running the Blackhawks from his home in Buffalo? Even in his last years in Detroit he was a consultant to their coaching staff. He was far from a managing force for the team.



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Posted 13 August 2013 - 12:34 PM

 

Actually from 1994 to 1997 Jim Devellano and Bowman were co GM's. Ken was the assistant GM and took over as GM in July 1998.


 

Bowman hasn't run the show anywhere in over a decade. Do you really believe he's running the Blackhawks from his home in Buffalo? Even in his last years in Detroit he was a consultant to their coaching staff. He was far from a managing force for the team.

Not sure if Bowman actually held the title of GM or not, but you are certainly correct in that he shared the GM duties with Jimmy D.

 

Also agree with your sentiment that he hasn't run the show anywhere for a while.  He's a consultant these days by title, but probably doesn't even do too much by way of consulting.  I'd guess it's here and there.



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Posted 14 August 2013 - 12:17 PM

 

Oh well then my bad, I've thought about the years before the cap. Chiarelli is a great GM, he builds his teams the way they should be built, skilled - tough and hard working. Yes, Rask is overpaid but so what? The guy is elite and deserves elite money but the Seguin move is going to bite them hard in 2 years. You just don't trade players of that caliber.

 

Lamoriello and Lombardi the L brothers are 7 and 8. Lou didn't want to sign this ridiculous Kovy deal because he knew, that Kovalchuk is not the right player for the style he wants to play but the ownership (Vanderbeek himself), forced him to sign the guy so his hands were tied. Lombardi has done some great moves but I want to see how he improves this loaded LA team before putting him into the top 5.

 Personally, I think that Eriksson is a better and more complete player who was only under a point per game the past few seasons cause he doesn't have jack for help in Dallas cause their GM is clueless.  He'll thrive in Boston bigtime I'd bet especially if he's on a line with Lucic and Krejci.  I'd even say that Eriksson is better than Horton and he's more durable.  Eriksson is one of the most underrated players in the NHL and he's a guy that I badly wanted on the Wings.  Seguin is really good and has potential, but who knows if he'll ever reach it and Eriksson is in his prime and will be for at least 5-6 more years.  Boston's top 6 is disgusting.  Fill the bottom 6 with hard nosed grinders who can score.  No need to keep Seguin below Krejci and Bergeron when he could be moved for a high caliber winger.


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#27 The Axe

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 01:00 PM

 Personally, I think that Eriksson is a better and more complete player who was only under a point per game the past few seasons cause he doesn't have jack for help in Dallas cause their GM is clueless.  He'll thrive in Boston bigtime I'd bet especially if he's on a line with Lucic and Krejci.  I'd even say that Eriksson is better than Horton and he's more durable.  Eriksson is one of the most underrated players in the NHL and he's a guy that I badly wanted on the Wings.  Seguin is really good and has potential, but who knows if he'll ever reach it and Eriksson is in his prime and will be for at least 5-6 more years.  Boston's top 6 is disgusting.  Fill the bottom 6 with hard nosed grinders who can score.  No need to keep Seguin below Krejci and Bergeron when he could be moved for a high caliber winger.


Boston looked lifeless without Horton last year. I think that will hurt.

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 11:57 PM

Bowman runs the show where he is. Call him what u want, but he calls the shots.

Wonder where he gets his advice from. 


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Posted 15 August 2013 - 12:02 AM

Wonder where he gets his advice from. 


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Posted 16 August 2013 - 12:11 PM

Bowman hasn't run the show anywhere in over a decade. Do you really believe he's running the Blackhawks from his home in Buffalo? Even in his last years in Detroit he was a consultant to their coaching staff. He was far from a managing force for the team.

 

At the same time, he is Scotty Bowman. All he has to do is grunt and God Himself will run and hide behind a cloud.


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