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#41 SouthernWingsFan

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 03:24 AM

Nobody.  Why should they be afraid of anybody?  Weakness already portrays that they aren't good enough to win.  Respect your opponent but play your game to the best of your ability, bust your tail off and outwork the other team and hopefully a good result comes up.



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 05:30 AM

 

Do we really play a puck-possession style anymore?  After losing Rafalski and Lidstrom, just chipping the puck into the neutral zone was more than our D could manage some nights.

 

Can't remember if I replied to this or not, and I'm too lazy to check. (Too lazy to check, but I'll potentially re-write an entire response? Totally.)

 

We do still play a puck-possession game, I think. It's just, like you said, we've lost some key pieces in Rafalski, Lidstrom, et al., so it's not nearly as pretty and dominating as it once was. But the goal, I think, remains the same: have the puck as much as possible.

 

Also, about Ottawa...

 

When we had the 'hawks on the ropes, everyone in the hockey world was pooping themselves. But, we choked, and we couldn't buy a goal in Game 7, so we = the Sens? And maybe even worse than the Sens? Wah? Alfredsson said it himself: we play a special game. We're a special team. Not what we once were, no. But we've still got the chops to absolutely waste any team in the league in a best-of-seven series, provided our heads and hearts are in it to win it. The Sens have done nothing - nothing - to make me think they're suddenly a team to be feared, a team that's "really going to surprise everyone." Why, because they have Bobby Ryan? We know all about Bobby Ryan. Clarke MacArthur is an upgrade over Alfredsson? OH NOES!

 

I mean, credit where it's due: they finished in seventh last season without the regular services of, like, all of their key players. But then, we know a thing or two about succeeding despite injuries, don't we?

 

meh. The East.


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Posted 23 August 2013 - 07:06 AM

I don't really "fear" any one team in the East, but more so the style of play in the East. Has anyone else noticed that there seems to be more respect between rivals in the West? They pretty much attempt to injur every key player in the East. I mean Malkin, Crosby, Horton, Giroux, etc always seem to be targets for high hits or gooning. I bet we see more injuries (if that's even possible) than the last few years.

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 07:26 AM

Nobody.  Why should they be afraid of anybody?  Weakness already portrays that they aren't good enough to win.  Respect your opponent but play your game to the best of your ability, bust your tail off and outwork the other team and hopefully a good result comes up.

 

Semantics.

 

Which team(s) do you fear might give us real problems?


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Posted 23 August 2013 - 07:56 AM

 

Which team(s) do you fear might give us real problems?

 

The teams that are at the bottom of the standings.


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Posted 23 August 2013 - 08:29 AM

I don't get why some of you are writing off the Leafs, I think out of all the teams in the division I fear them the most.

 

They're gonna play with some fire because of last year's outcome. They have a very deep team with good players for all scenarios. Kessel, Kadri, JVR, and Lupul provide good scoring, Bolland and McClement are solid PK centres. They've got grit with McLaren and Orr who won't play a lot but will play if needed. Their defence has a lot of depth, and they *should* have a very good tandem in goal this year. Bolland and Clarkson were good additions and should fit in well with Carlyle's system. They bring grit but that's not all they bring contrary to what people think. The only weaknesses I see in their team are the top 2 pairing in D (much like us) and their 1C and 2C who aren't elite yet (Kadri is small and is not a good enough 2 way player and Bozak is not an elite centre either)

 

"Look at where their toughness brought them"?? Don't forget this is a team that, like us, took a cup finalist to 7 games and looked like they had the series wrapped up. Boston is always a force in the playoffs so that isn't exactly something to sneeze at...

 



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 08:52 AM

The 'hawks were by far the most dominant team in the league last season. And they won it all. The way we dominated them (before one of our all-time great choke jobs) in the second round is, I'd say, way more impressive than what the Leafs did against the Bruins in the first round. We were absolutely embarrassing the eventual Cup champs - and after taking out the much bigger, meaner, "deeper" Ducks (who I feel would beat the Leafs pretty easily in a best-of-seven).

 

If their only two glaring problems are their top two centers and top two pairings...well, I think that's cause for concern - on their part. And I know they have the best two goalies in the league now, and when they fuse together into one super goalie no one will ever score against the Leafs again. But, really, neither one makes me go, "Oh man, he's gonna give us problems."

 

I think their biggest asset against us is their coach.


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Posted 23 August 2013 - 09:17 AM

I feel that the biggest threat/opponent to the Detroit Red Wings this season will be The Detroit Red Wings. They're their own worst enemy at times. As stated earlier, when the Wings are playing their game, no one will beat them. Over the past couple of seasons, however, we've failed to compete at times, and the games where we DID show up to play, we've often squandered away our lead late in the third period.

 

If the Wings can learn to play hard for 60 full minutes, they've got a legimitate chance to go far this year, both in the Eastern Conference and in the post-season.



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 11:10 AM

This whole Big, Bad East thing is incredibly overstated. It's the same stuff people were saying about the Flyers in '97. (Remember how the Legion of Doom was supposed to outright abuse the soft, smallish Wings?)

 

We had to play the 'hawks, what, like, 77 times this past season? And we won how many of those games?

 

No one in the East "scares" me like the 'haws. And, for my money, the Ducks are about as Big, Bad, and Nasty as any team you're gonna see in The New NHL - so, no, Boston doesn't really scare me too much. (Though I'm expecting us to drop quite a few contests against them.)

 

The Caps' PP scares me. I feel like it would eat us alive.

 

Overall, though? I am so incredibly pumped for our first EC tour.

 

I liked this comment.  If you listen to non-Detroit fans like Wyshinski (whom I simaltaneously love and despise at the same time), you get a sense that people really viewed the '97 Wings in a way I never did, which was as "underdogs".  Philly was just supposed to stomp us to the ground, and Lindros was going to claim the throne because Lemieux was retiring again, and that's just the way the narrative was supposed to go.  It actually reminds me of the way people talk about the 2004 Pistons as an aberration - Detroit fans know that team was special, and perhaps one of the greatest defensive teams of all time, but rather than getting credit for stopping a Lakers 4-peat, everyone focuses on the implosion of L.A., even though they apparently handn't imploded enough to make it all the way past 3 rounds and to the Finals.

 

I'm just going to watch how we play and react from there.  Of course I'm concerened about how we might handle away games in Montreal (given recent history), and Boston, Pittsburgh, etc. will be tough.  But I guess it stems back to 1997 that I simply don't believe the Wings are "in trouble" because they play they're style of hockey as opposed to a North/South physical game.  Case in point, Chicago (a Western team) was said to be too small and too finesse to compete with Boston also, and they just won the Cup.



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 11:27 AM

Somehow I think confidence is a good thing but overconfidence has a chance to backfire.

 

Personally I fear a lot of the new enemies but I am not expecting the DetroitRedWings to compete for the top-spot either. Going in with a more reasonable expectation can only lead to enjoyment, if they do better than expected fine, if not well not a big deal.

 

To be honest I think Chicago is a very boring team to watch, I love the energy Backes is playing with and appreciate a hardhitting back and forth game.


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#51 Dabura

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 12:53 PM

Somehow I think confidence is a good thing but overconfidence has a chance to backfire.

 

Well, it's not like anything we say here is going to inflence how the team approaches things.

 

They won't fear anyone, and they (hopefully) won't take anyone lightly. Though there will, inevitably, be those nights when they just flat-out don't show up. And they'll all probably be against the Panthers. :sleepy:

 

I actually think the Blackhawks are much more fun to watch than the Blues. That grinding, stifling, one-goal-a-game business? meh.


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Posted 30 August 2013 - 04:48 PM

“They play that skating style, that puck possession style, that’s demanding and makes things happen." (Alfredsson.)

 

http://www.foxsports...583&feedID=3569

(Re: Do we still play a puck-possession system?)


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Posted 30 August 2013 - 05:05 PM

They play that skating style, that puck possession style, thats demanding and makes things happen." (Alfredsson.)
 
http://www.foxsports...583&feedID=3569
(Re: Do we still play a puck-possession system?)


Yep. Just because it's not as prominent with lids gone, doesn't mean we stopped using it.

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 11:23 PM

Nobody, don't let the hype fool you.  We will be running rough shot in the division. 


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Posted 31 August 2013 - 02:29 AM

Nobody, don't let the hype fool you.  We will be running rough shot in the division. 

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 08:07 AM

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We shouldn't fear anybody because we are awesome and the East is cheese.
 


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Posted 31 August 2013 - 08:19 AM

I don't get why some of you are writing off the Leafs, I think out of all the teams in the division I fear them the most.

 

They're gonna play with some fire because of last year's outcome. They have a very deep team with good players for all scenarios. Kessel, Kadri, JVR, and Lupul provide good scoring, Bolland and McClement are solid PK centres. They've got grit with McLaren and Orr who won't play a lot but will play if needed. Their defence has a lot of depth, and they *should* have a very good tandem in goal this year. Bolland and Clarkson were good additions and should fit in well with Carlyle's system. They bring grit but that's not all they bring contrary to what people think. The only weaknesses I see in their team are the top 2 pairing in D (much like us) and their 1C and 2C who aren't elite yet (Kadri is small and is not a good enough 2 way player and Bozak is not an elite centre either)

 

"Look at where their toughness brought them"?? Don't forget this is a team that, like us, took a cup finalist to 7 games and looked like they had the series wrapped up. Boston is always a force in the playoffs so that isn't exactly something to sneeze at...

 

 

Leafs suck, and no one is scared of them. I live in Toronto now and watch quite a few leaf games and they really are not that good of a team especially over 82 games.



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Posted 31 August 2013 - 08:25 AM

Fear stifles our thinking and actions. It creates indecisiveness that results in stagnation. I have known talented people who procrastinate indefinitely rather than risk failure. Lost opportunities cause erosion of confidence, and the downward spiral begins.

 

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 02:28 PM

The East should be crapping their pants.  We were one goal away from the eliminating the Stanley cup champs.

 

  Now we're adding Alfie, Weiss, Helm, Dekeyser, Bertuzzi, Samuelsson and a more seasoned Nyquist, Tatar,Anderson and Smith.

 

older? yes. but the lack of travel will take a few years off of the Vets and they will all look rejuvenated because of it.

 

This will be the year we turn our power play around; it will be our enforcer again. (it won't be as great as 2008, but it'll be a heck of lot better than the last few years)

 

BOLD PREDICTION: within a few years the East teams will start adapting to us, and people will be wondering why the whole league is now playing a "west conference" style game.



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Posted 31 August 2013 - 02:45 PM

The East should be crapping their pants.  We were one goal away from the eliminating the Stanley cup champs.

 

  Now we're adding Alfie, Weiss, Helm, Dekeyser, Bertuzzi, Samuelsson and a more seasoned Nyquist, Tatar,Anderson and Smith.

 

older? yes. but the lack of travel will take a few years off of the Vets and they will all look rejuvenated because of it.

 

This will be the year we turn our power play around; it will be our enforcer again. (it won't be as great as 2008, but it'll be a heck of lot better than the last few years)

 

BOLD PREDICTION: within a few years the East teams will start adapting to us, and people will be wondering why the whole league is now playing a "west conference" style game.

 

so hockey will be more entertaining to watch?







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