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#21 Dabura

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Posted 05 September 2013 - 10:54 AM

Oh boy this topic/thread isn't going to turn into a turdfest at all will it.

 

I guess folks still don't get he is mostly just a figurehead of the owners and like chunky said above he is probably not even the one wanting/making the changes that some hate so much.

 

He gets paid 8 million dollars. This is offensive to me. Not outrageous, because I know how the world works. Just offensive.


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Posted 05 September 2013 - 11:08 AM

 

He gets paid 8 million dollars. This is offensive to me. Not outrageous, because I know how the world works. Just offensive.

 

To me it's offensive and outrageous I mean, the owners are all extremely rich what do they need a commissioner for? If you care about the sport you should hire someone, who 1. respects the integrity 2. has experience within the game 3. cares about tradition and 4. is welcomed by owners and players.

 

There are so many former greats but yet a guy who stands for everything ANTI-hockey is getting the job, players hate him, fans hate him and only some **** owners like him it's very well known that Ilitch can't the little weasel either.


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Posted 05 September 2013 - 11:39 AM

Well, it is outrageous (IMHO). But, what I meant was, it's not this great perplexing mystery to me. Nor should it be one to anyone else.

 

The world is run by Gary Bettmans. And actually, as BottleofSmoke said (I think?), this is, shall we say, Little League. Indeed, funny thing is, this info casts him in a better light, to me. If he were Pure Concentrated Evil, a true Despot for the Ages, he'd be making five times this much - and all that on top of mult-billion-$ personal networth. And he'd have broken and battered call girls suing him left and right.

 

He's a small fish in the Ocean of Evil Fish.


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Posted 05 September 2013 - 11:51 AM

 

Ecclestone is just an idiot, not even worth talking about him the F1 has gone downhill so fast it's not even funny.

 

Such an idiot he's used F1 to make himself a billionaire

 

 


i'm pretty sure your point was that bettman isn't the worst choice for commisioner in the world, he's the SECOND worst choice!

 

:lol: 3rd worst, lets not forget Blatter ;) He's not as eye-gougingly rich as Ecclestone, but he takes corruption to a whole new level.

 

BTW, I'm shocked at how "little" Goodell makes.  Considering the NFL is viewed around the world as the model sport in terms of how to make bucketfulls of cash.


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Posted 05 September 2013 - 11:56 AM

 

Such an idiot he's used F1 to make himself a billionaire

 

 

 

:lol: 3rd worst, lets not forget Blatter ;) He's not as eye-gougingly rich as Ecclestone, but he takes corruption to a whole new level.

 

BTW, I'm shocked at how "little" Goodell makes.  Considering the NFL is viewed around the world as the model sport in terms of how to make bucketfulls of cash.

 

Honestly I am shocked too.  Last I heard the NFL is approximately a $30 billion industry.  



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Posted 05 September 2013 - 12:30 PM

The creation of the 2014 Coors Light NHL Stadium Series made this raise inevitable.


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Posted 05 September 2013 - 12:48 PM

Who cares about Stern (NBA), Selig (MLB) or Goddell (NFL) this thread is about hockey and when it comes to hockey he is overpaid. 3 lockouts are unexcuseable, making more than the product people actually want to watch is just pure nuts. There is also a reason, why commissioners are getting boo'ed so much they are bad for the sport and leagues would be better off without them.

 

Guess what a hockeyguy would cost less, not trash the sport with his growing the game crap AND actually be welcomed when he presents the Stanley Cup.

 

Can't believe people are still defending the guy, who has cost us one year of Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Yzerman and a prime Lidström.

Fans don't like the commissioners, but the owners do.  The key there is that the owners are the ones that actually pay the salaries and make decisions on employment.  So, in Bettman's case, he's done a great job in the minds of his employers.  To correct the orginal poster, it's not more than 90% it is actually around 99%, there are only a handful of guys out of 700 that make more than that.



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Posted 05 September 2013 - 01:10 PM

 

He gets paid 8 million dollars. This is offensive to me. Not outrageous, because I know how the world works. Just offensive.

Yeah it's offensive to you and many others because you probably don't make even 1% of 8mil and probably think you could do a better job than him or that putting in someone like Yzerman is going to change something. If it wasn't for the owners there is no way the players would be able to or be willing to support a league without the owners and their money. That's why the owners put in someone like Bettman and not someone like Yzerman. 


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Posted 05 September 2013 - 01:48 PM

That make sense for this day and age. Give the Man that has destroyed this great sport a raise. If this was 30 years ago I would say he was connected to the mob or something
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Posted 05 September 2013 - 02:15 PM

There seems to be some confusion over what Bettman's job actually is. He is not responsible for making the fans happy. We don't directly pay him, after all. His primary concern is keeping the owners happy. That's who signs his paychecks. Looking exclusively at that position, Bettman had done a stellar job. Under his regime the NHL has steadily increased profits, thrived under cheaper and alternative media outlets, introduced and popularized the cash cow Winter Classic, and while there had been a few lockouts, each one had resulted in more power/money being shifted from the players to the owners. The owners are as happy as they've ever been, thus Bettman is sticking around, likely with regular pay raises in the future.

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Posted 05 September 2013 - 02:18 PM

There seems to be some confusion over what Bettman's job actually is. He is not responsible for making the fans happy. We don't directly pay him, after all. His primary concern is keeping the owners happy. That's who signs his paychecks. Looking exclusively at that position, Bettman had done a stellar job. Under his regime the NHL has steadily increased profits, thrived under cheaper and alternative media outlets, introduced and popularized the cash cow Winter Classic, and while there had been a few lockouts, each one had resulted in more power/money being shifted from the players to the owners. The owners are as happy as they've ever been, thus Bettman is sticking around, likely with regular pay raises in the future.

 

as i mentioned above though, how can he be doing a good job for the owners when they spent the last 12 months convincing fans that at least 2/3's of the league was losing money????

 

thats the definition of not doing a good job.


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Posted 05 September 2013 - 04:15 PM

 

as i mentioned above though, how can he be doing a good job for the owners when they spent the last 12 months convincing fans that at least 2/3's of the league was losing money????

 

thats the definition of not doing a good job.

 

He's not doing a good job for the fans, as they just want to watch quality hockey.  For owners though it's mostly about the money. 

 

Bettman can say publicly to the fans about how the league is in dire financial straits due to players salaries, but the guys who actually know the full financial condition of the NHL just gave him a raise.  And I'm guessing it's not because they're losing millions of dollars. 



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Posted 05 September 2013 - 06:21 PM

 

as i mentioned above though, how can he be doing a good job for the owners when they spent the last 12 months convincing fans that at least 2/3's of the league was losing money????

 

thats the definition of not doing a good job.

 

To echo Haroldsnepsts' response, I'm incredibly skeptical about exactly how many teams are allegedly suffering.  I obviously can't back up my opinions with facts simply because this kind of data isn't made public, but a general rule-of-thumb about billionaires is that they're pretty clever when it comes to money, and I suspect a lot of team that are supposedly in bad shape only appear to be in financial troubles because of either clever book-keeping, or maybe even straight lies from the BOG and Bettman during the lockout in attempts at winning the publicity war.  In any event, the results speak for themselves.  Bettman has been around since the 90's, and I haven't heard even a whisper of discontent about how he is doing his job from owners.  He's obviously doing something they like, and what they like is typically the bottom line.



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Posted 05 September 2013 - 07:27 PM

I couldn't care less how much he makes, it is either going in his pocket, or the owners anyways, so it makes no difference to me which rich person gets richer


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Posted 06 September 2013 - 04:33 AM

There seems to be some confusion over what Bettman's job actually is. He is not responsible for making the fans happy. We don't directly pay him, after all. His primary concern is keeping the owners happy. That's who signs his paychecks. Looking exclusively at that position, Bettman had done a stellar job. Under his regime the NHL has steadily increased profits, thrived under cheaper and alternative media outlets, introduced and popularized the cash cow Winter Classic, and while there had been a few lockouts, each one had resulted in more power/money being shifted from the players to the owners. The owners are as happy as they've ever been, thus Bettman is sticking around, likely with regular pay raises in the future.

 

Iltich, Dolan, Molson, Peddie, Snyderand the Acquilinis are known for not liking the guy add to that guys like Pegula, Thompson, Burkle who were all against the lockout and you end up with a good bunch of owners, who flatout hate him or at least aren't agreeing with him.

 

When it comes down to "losing money" it's funnywe are only hearing about that in lockout years or whenevera CBA is expiring, I call it creative bookkeeping. The owners are all billionaires and nobody can tell me, that they don't know how to hide money and make their anually income worse than it actually is. Money can buy you the best accountants, lawyers and other specialists. Just look at the Devils they've lost 25 million last year but yet two guys are lining up to 320 million for them, these are smart business-men they know exactly what they are getting in and what to expect. The funny thing to me with every CBA is, that the players have to make their contracts public yet the NHL doesn't need to do it, talk about a one way street.

 

The NHL would have grown without Bettman also, things like streaming or better worldwide coverage have nothing to do with a commissioner these things happened because of advanced technology, internet-flatrates and the emergence of smartphones, tablets.

 

In terms of owners pocket:

Guess what, the payroll for guys like the best owner in all of sports is still high the only difference being he has to use his money to support failed and questionable franchises in markets that shouldn't even have a team to begin with. The Blues for example are having a great team and yet can't even fill their arena, so why support and help them signing Pietrangelo? Makes no sense to me, Mr. I should be allowed to use his money to ice a great team, so should Dolan, Peddie, Acquinli, Pegula...The last CBA had something like the top 10 clubs in terms of revenue paying out 200 million to revenue sharing so that's 20 million for each club -->grants you 2 absolute superstars!

 

So sorry if I am not buying into the whole Bettman has done wonderful things no he hasn't and never will, watering down the Winterclassic is just another mistake.


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Posted 06 September 2013 - 06:18 AM

no salary cap in the CBA for deadweight management?

 


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Posted 06 September 2013 - 08:09 AM

Bettman doesn't keep you happy, but I can assure you that his keeping the owners happy.







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