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Report: Cleary to sign with PHI, 3 yrs, $2.75m/yr, NTC


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#41 Crymson

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 11:15 AM

St. James strikes again:

 

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Homer confirms that Cleary will be here on tryout contract. "But there are no promises" on a deal, he insisted. #flyers

 

She has now "confirmed" Cleary's not-actually-real $3m+ contract offer from Holland, and his also not-actually-real contract offer from the Flyers.



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 11:23 AM

Well he has to impress them and pass the physical test but eeven Holmer wouldn't give out such a contract easily.

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 11:26 AM

Flyers have used 2 buyouts plus an ordinary buyout, still have 10 signed defensemen and a 25 man roster, currently 2mil over the cap, and still offer a training camp contract worth almost 3mil per year for 3 years. Yup great management

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 11:30 AM

Flyers have used 2 buyouts plus an ordinary buyout, still have 10 signed defensemen and a 25 man roster, currently 2mil over the cap, and still offer a training camp contract worth almost 3mil per year for 3 years. Yup great management

 

Technically, 24 man roster since Pronger is still counted among those 10 d-men & he'll be on LTIR again as soon as the season starts.  That also moves them below the cap by ~$2.89m.  If Cleary does play his way onto the Flyers' roster, all they'll really need to do is clear up 1 roster spot.



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 12:04 PM

I really appreciated Cleary's contributions to the Wings (particularly the 2009 Playoffs, when Cleary CARRIED us at times), but he had to go.  As hard as it is to let go of important veterans, I'm glad that the Red Wings organization is not overly sentimental when making roster moves.  We have young players ready to take his spot now that can do it better and cheaper.



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 12:50 PM

I really appreciated Cleary's contributions to the Wings (particularly the 2009 Playoffs, when Cleary CARRIED us at times),

 

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 12:55 PM

 
Technically, 24 man roster since Pronger is still counted among those 10 d-men & he'll be on LTIR again as soon as the season starts.  That also moves them below the cap by ~$2.89m.  If Cleary does play his way onto the Flyers' roster, all they'll really need to do is clear up 1 roster spot.


Good point. Forgot to account for pronger. I'm also pretty sure even with his salary eliminated they are over still. Could be wrong though. Also they would have to clear two spots. One to get to the 23 man limit, and one to add Cleary

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 01:05 PM

I'm glad that the Red Wings organization is not overly sentimental when making roster moves.

 

Not that it really matters (in the scheme of things and all), but...sarcasm?


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Posted 10 September 2013 - 01:06 PM

Good point. Forgot to account for pronger. I'm also pretty sure even with his salary eliminated they are over still. Could be wrong though. Also they would have to clear two spots. One to get to the 23 man limit, and one to add Cleary


Nope, theyre definitely under with Pronger on LTIR. Under by almost 3 million. And they have quite a few extra forwards and D-men that arnt that special. So by waiving 2 of them and signing Cleary, they'll probably end up with around 2 million in cap space.

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 01:13 PM

Good point. Forgot to account for pronger. I'm also pretty sure even with his salary eliminated they are over still. Could be wrong though. Also they would have to clear two spots. One to get to the 23 man limit, and one to add Cleary

 

Yeah, for some reason I was thinking Cleary would be 25th when added to their current roster when he would actually be 26.  Good catch.

 

With Pronger's salary cap hit on the books until he's officially on LTIR this season, the Flyers' cap payroll stands at ~$69.2m which includes deferrable bonuses of $2.8m.  Taking that & Pronger's cap hit off the books then puts their hit against the cap at ~$61.4m.  Official cap space would be $2,887,907 before adding Cleary. 


Edited by ogreslayer, 10 September 2013 - 01:15 PM.


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Posted 10 September 2013 - 01:15 PM

http://www.capgeek.c...or/roster/32022

Don't know if that link will work, on my phone.

But on capgeek I demoted Adam Hall and Marc Andre Bourdon and signed Cleary. Leaving the Flyers with 4.1 million in cap space. Not to shabby for them actually

Edited by number9, 10 September 2013 - 01:16 PM.


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Posted 10 September 2013 - 01:18 PM

Pronger will be very happy to see his old friend Cleary.



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 01:30 PM

Good question.

 

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 02:04 PM

I know a lot of people here ranked on Cleary but he did some good hard work and scored that magnificent winner in game 7 against the Ducks. How great was that goal? Ducks fans still whine about it. Fare thee well Daniel Cleary, you wore #11 at least as honorably as Mathieu Dandenault.


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Posted 10 September 2013 - 02:37 PM

Not sure how this deal will turn out long term for the Wings.  However, I do know that part of being a good GM is knowing when to put emotions aside to let go.  It's funny, cause this is the one weakER aspect of Kenny's skill set (please...this is about the only aspect of an overall titanium skill set).  I believe he's held on to players way too long in the past (e.g./IMO =  Homer).  As other posters stated, I thought Kenny would have matched. 


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Posted 10 September 2013 - 03:03 PM

Well, I don't understand two things:

 

1. Philly is offering an NTC??!?!?!

 

2. Cleary is still going to come to Wings camp anyway?

 

:lol:



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 03:20 PM

Wait, what?


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Posted 10 September 2013 - 03:22 PM

We have no hope in actually formulating a trade and executing it now right? If Cleary is gone Holland has no motivation whatsoever.


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Posted 10 September 2013 - 03:26 PM

We have no hope in actually formulating a trade and executing it now right? If Cleary is gone Holland has no motivation whatsoever.

 

... except for, you know, clearing two roster spots and some cap space. Exactly what were you expecting?


Well, I don't understand two things:

 

1. Philly is offering an NTC??!?!?!

 

2. Cleary is still going to come to Wings camp anyway?

 

:lol:

 

 

He isn't coming to the Wings' training camp. He was invited by Holland, but refused without a satisfactory offer on the table.



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 03:35 PM

Franzen is in for it now. There won't be a second whipping boy to share the load with.
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