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#61 Opie

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 11:37 AM

Now I would really like to see Franzen and Ericsson (or Kindl and Quincey) for Pietrangelo's rights.

 

Maybe throw in Tootoo or Eaves to sweeten the deal!

 

But this is just a pipe dream, I just want to see it because Alex is my fav non-Wing young D-man in the league.


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Posted 12 September 2013 - 11:41 AM

Like many here, I don't mind the term and agree that all things considered, it's a decent signing. It's just the drama of the whole fricking thing! I mean, good lord! And I think it sucks that Cleary lobbied so hard to come back knowing he'd be pushing someone else out of a job. I'll reserve my wrath for when we actually find out who those somebodies are...

Edit: damn double post

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 11:42 AM

I wish I could fly to Traverse City and shake Dan Cleary's hand.

 

 In this day and age of pro athletes chasing the Big $ at all costs, the guy walked away from millions of dollars, put his ego aside, crawled back to the negotiation table to eat some major crow, all so he could stay with friends,  teammates, and an organisation and town that he loves.

 

Cleary went toe to toe with one of Detroit's all time biggest nemesis, Chris Pronger, he went after Dion Phaneuf, knocking him silly, then getting an assist on the goal. He's scored numerous playoff game winning goals.  Even when he's basically duck taped together, he's still finishing checks and jumping into scrums. He is a winner, he is the epitome of a team heart and soul guy, he has hands, grit, and smarts.  He is a major contributor at all costs.

 

$1.75m!  Talk about a Hometown Discount!  

 

Totally glad he's back. And frankly, I can't see him really giving a s*** what number is on his jersey, as long as the logo is the Winged Wheel.

completely agree. If only our other players were as competitive as Danny. I immediately became his fan when he came here because of his work ethic... still a fan.


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Posted 12 September 2013 - 11:44 AM

Now I would really like to see Franzen and Ericsson (or Kindl and Quincey) for Pietrangelo's rights.

 

Maybe throw in Tootoo or Eaves to sweeten the deal!

 

But this is just a pipe dream, I just want to see it because Alex is my fav non-Wing young D-man in the league.

This would be awesome if we had the 7 million to spend on him. Maybe if we dump 9m worth of players and tatar we'll get him?? Lol



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 11:45 AM

So much for seeing the young guns at forward this season... they will be 25 by the time the break in. Holland cites inexperience as a factor in taking vets over kids but they can't gain any without playing time with the big club...

 

Next year I hope we truly trim the fat and move on from these old guys and give the youth a chance - it is also much more affordable cap-wise. You can have Tatar for 900k or Cleary for 1.75 mill. 


Is there a kickstarter campaign for Jakub Kindl to never play another NHL game?


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Posted 12 September 2013 - 11:46 AM

Like many here, I don't mind the term and agree that all things considered, it's a decent signing. It's just the drama of the whole fricking thing! I mean, good lord! And I think it sucks that Cleary lobbied so hard to come back knowing he'd be pushing someone else out of a job. I'll reserve my wrath for when we actually find out who those somebodies are...

Edit: damn double post

Emmerton, Eaves, Tootoo, Bert, Sammy, Andersson. They could part with ANYONE, why does adding back Cleary suddenly cost Tatar a spot?



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 11:48 AM

So basically Eaves or Toots is going to hit waivers if we can't trade em.



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 11:48 AM

Now I would really like to see Franzen and Ericsson (or Kindl and Quincey) for Pietrangelo's rights.

 

Maybe throw in Tootoo or Eaves to sweeten the deal!

 

But this is just a pipe dream, I just want to see it because Alex is my fav non-Wing young D-man in the league.

If Holland's plan is to pawn off Tatar/Nyquist for picks then I will be furious - he is supposed to by loyal so he should show some loyalty to prospects that spent way too much time in the AHL paying their dues. The only way I can accept this kind of signing is if we are making a trade for an established Dman. 


Is there a kickstarter campaign for Jakub Kindl to never play another NHL game?


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Posted 12 September 2013 - 11:51 AM

This would be awesome if we had the 7 million to spend on him. Maybe if we dump 9m worth of players and tatar we'll get him?? Lol

 

Let's see...  Franzen at $3,954,545, Quincey at $3,775,000, Sproul, & Sammy while retaining half of his $3m salary clears up $9,229,545.  The Blues get a scorer long term, a couple of transition players in Q & Sammy with contracts that expire at the end of the season, & a stud of a defensive prospect in Sproul.   Maybe sweeten the deal with a pick.  Worth exploring I think.



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 11:52 AM

Wow!  I really expected an LGW meltdown but many of the posts were actually positive.  How can you hate a guy that takes a big paycut and a reduced term just so he can stay on the Wings.  I think even the Cleary haters (or most of them) have to respect him for this.  OK.  Maybe not.

 

I'm glad he's back as long as it doesn't affect Nyquist, Tartar or DeKeyser....


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Posted 12 September 2013 - 11:54 AM

Emmerton, Eaves, Tootoo, Bert, Sammy, Andersson. They could part with ANYONE, why does adding back Cleary suddenly cost Tatar a spot?

 

For starters, Andersson isn't going anywhere with Helm being injured given he's 4th on the depth chart for centers.  Why it might be Tatar over the others is trade value.  He simply would have more worth in the trade market than any of the others plus with Bert & Sammy you're dealing with no trade clauses. 



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 11:55 AM

Emmerton, Eaves, Tootoo, Bert, Sammy, Andersson. They could part with ANYONE, why does adding back Cleary suddenly cost Tatar a spot?


Don't know if you meant to quote my post, because nowhere did I specify Tots. I was specifically referring to the fact that we DON'T know who is going to be on the block...

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 11:57 AM

Ken Holland is too sentimental with his players. At some point you have to cut the cord and do what is best for the team and not for your personal friendships. 


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Posted 12 September 2013 - 11:58 AM

Well, now Tatar is has said that he will not go back to Grand Rapids, and is angry.  I have no idea why the Wings are toying with their future to keep around another forward that we didn't need.  Tatar probably should have been up LAST YEAR for the playoffs, but they left him down to help the Griffins win an AHL championship.



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 11:59 AM

Ken Holland is too sentimental with his players. At some point you have to cut the cord and do what is best for the team and not for your personal friendships. 

 

This phenomenon has been going on for a while, and I wouldn't call them friendships.

It is just the org philosophy to be loyal to the vets, as an effort to attract more free agents, knowing the Wings will be loyal.

 

Not saying it is the best or only approach but it is definitely an org philosophy more than Holland and Player X being buddies!


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Posted 12 September 2013 - 11:59 AM

My mind can't even begin to process the amount of shedding that needs to happen... We are literally one player from having a 1st and 2nd line with two 3rd and two 4th lines. Hopefully we get some decent return and no young players get moved...

 

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Alfredsson-Weiss-Franzen

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Tootoo-Emmerton-(damn...)

 

I'm honestly at a loss for who stays and who goes given Sammy and Berts NTC. We either trade or demote some of our young talent or part with some of our best 4th liners/PK... things are getting wacky. Wake me in October...



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 11:59 AM

Emmerton, Eaves, Tootoo, Bert, Sammy, Andersson. They could part with ANYONE, why does adding back Cleary suddenly cost Tatar a spot?

 

Because, and unless something has changed, those guys aren't desired assets. Add in that Holland loves his vets, and what do you think is going to happen? They're 2.3 million and 3 forwards over now. Let's say Helm goes on LTIR. Take Emmerton and Andersson (shouldn't even be on there) off that list, we need centers.

Send Gus down to GR (sad), since Bertuzzi and/or Samuelsson will be using those spots on the 3rd line. And yeah, it'd be ideal to move one of them, but who wants them? Seriously.

That leaves the team with Eaves and Tootoo. It's plausible that one is moved, and cap relief comes with either move. It's curious that neither has been moved yet, despite rumors that they're the ones to go. Makes me wonder if there's much of a market for them. Regardless, let's say it's Tootoo who goes.

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Bert-Andersson-Samuelsson
Miller-Emmerton-Cleary
Tatar, Eaves

Is that really where Tatar belongs? Whose spot does he take? I personally feel like he'd be wasted on the 4th line, or on the bench. Bert and Sammy don't strike me as 4th liners, either. This forward roster is just a mess at the moment.



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 12:00 PM

Well, now Tatar is has said that he will not go back to Grand Rapids, and is angry.  I have no idea why the Wings are toying with their future to keep around another forward that we didn't need.  Tatar probably should have been up LAST YEAR for the playoffs, but they left him down to help the Griffins win an AHL championship.

 

Well seeing as he cannot go back to Grand Rapids, I am not sure why it is an issue or why he is even angry about it?

 

The only way he goes to GR is to clear waivers, I highly doubt that happens!


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Posted 12 September 2013 - 12:07 PM

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 12:07 PM

Tatar is showing his cards, basically saying don't even think about it.


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