kylee 727 Report post Posted September 27, 2013 Todd Ber-tuzzi 1 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted September 27, 2013 Would rather have Bert playing with Z and D, but that's just me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ForzaVerde Report post Posted September 27, 2013 Surprising how many people are pro-old, slow, and non-physical. I like young, fast, and physical. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoalieManPat 1,007 Report post Posted September 27, 2013 If we need an enforcer, Tootoo has bee showing this preseason that he is at least better than Bert. Hehehehheehehe someone thinks TooToo is an enforcer..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted September 27, 2013 Firstly, Tootoo is not an enforcer; no one is afraid of him. Secondly, it's not that I - for my part - like old and slow and non-physical. If we could have Dustin Brown instead of Todd Bertuzzi, I'd make that swap in a fraction of a heartbeat. But guess what: we can't have Dustin Brown, period. We can't upgrade Bertuzzi. We're dealing with a Ken Holland-built roster, which means it's going to have more than its fair share of old, slow, and generally ineffective old-timers who probably should've called it quits a long time ago but didn't because they know Holland will give them work well into their sixties. Considering that, I think we're actually lucky to have Bertuzzi, because his size and snarl and (potential) physicality and incredible hands actually make him (potentially) quite valuable, relatively speaking. 2 hillbillywingsfan and wingedominance13 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Dynasty 267 Report post Posted September 27, 2013 10 years ago Bertuzzi was the premiere power forward in the world. Size, speed, hands, and grit. He still has 3 of those qualities. You need people on the 3rd and 4th lines that can pass, score, and take the body. We aren't expecting 30 goals from him, but we are expecting him to play gritty hockey. Right now, from what I have seen, he is bringing snarl to the ice every shift. If he hustles instead of coasting around waiting for a pass I think he is an upgrade over both Sammy and Cleary, and at times is an upgrade over Franzen. Also, he doesn't take sh*t from the other team on the ice when they chirp at skill guys. When Weber threw Z's head against the boards, we all weren't saying, "Oh boy! Wait until Z gets back up and kicks his a** on the powerplay." No, all of a sudden, Bertuzzi was an enforcer to fans on the board. And guess what happened the next game less than 2 minutes in, even in a small scale, Weber had to answer. Against a bigger, stronger, and younger guy Bertuzzi did the job of a non-existant enforcer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fqjn_AAO5A0 Until he can't skate at all or loses his ability to handle the puck, he is the best player we have in the bottom six. 5 Uncle Danny, 55fan, Hey man nice shot! and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ForzaVerde Report post Posted September 27, 2013 Firstly, Tootoo is not an enforcer; no one is afraid of him. Secondly, it's not that I - for my part - like old and slow and non-physical. If we could have Dustin Brown instead of Todd Bertuzzi, I'd make that swap in a fraction of a heartbeat. But guess what: we can't have Dustin Brown, period. We can't upgrade Bertuzzi. We're dealing with a Ken Holland-built roster, which means it's going to have more than its fair share of old, slow, and generally ineffective old-timers who probably should've called it quits a long time ago but didn't because they know Holland will give them work well into their sixties. Considering that, I think we're actually lucky to have Bertuzzi, because his size and snarl and (potential) physicality and incredible hands actually make him (potentially) quite valuable, relatively speaking. Im not anti Bert as a person or as a Red Wing development assistant. I just dont want to see him in the lineup at the expense of our youngsters. He doeant do anything they dont do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted September 27, 2013 Viva la Bertuzzi 2 Hockeymom1960 and Wings_Dynasty reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslionstigers 12 Report post Posted September 27, 2013 Bertuzzi is the only player in the world that can compete in the NHL with one hand on his stick. Do you see Crosby walking people one handed? No. I believe Bert plays with this style as it frees an arm up so he can efficiently drop elbows to somebody's nose if needed.If I was going to keep any of these older guys it would be Bert. He is a pretty smart passer and a big body who will still get physical when needed. You need a guy or two on a roster that you can plug in anywhere to make ends meet and hes a good guy for the job. Cleary and Sammy is who needs to go. 3 Hey man nice shot!, Wings_Dynasty and Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mors 201 Report post Posted September 27, 2013 These threads always pop up and then completely disappear when Bertuzzi wins a couple of shootout games or beats somebody up. Like it or not he's staying, personally I like it. 5 Hey man nice shot!, Detroit \# 1 Fan, 55fan and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted September 27, 2013 These threads always pop up and then completely disappear when Bertuzzi wins a couple of shootout games or beats somebody up. Like it or not he's staying, personally I like it. Heck, every time a thread pops up bashing someone, it seems like they go on a tear. Let's hope Bert does the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hey man nice shot! 144 Report post Posted September 27, 2013 Heck, every time a thread pops up bashing someone, it seems like they go on a tear. Let's hope Bert does the same. If this is constructive i say we start bashing the whole team 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,476 Report post Posted September 27, 2013 I need to retire, doesn't mean I will Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Playmaker Report post Posted September 27, 2013 I'm neither pro or anti Bertuzzi, but the reality is, we're stuck with him whether we like it or not. 1 haroldsnepsts reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted September 28, 2013 So far tonight Bert has been great... 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilmrt 636 Report post Posted September 28, 2013 How the Fudge is there this thread and not a Samuelsson one? 2 Hockeymom1960 and jimmyemeryhunter reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoOzzieGo 22 Report post Posted September 28, 2013 The way he played last night looked to me like it had little to do with being paired with those guys. It looked to me like his back was still pretty badly f***ed up. He usually uses his strength to hold off opponents with his hips or elbow, but last night he did neither of those. Do we really want a guy with a history of back issues going all out physically in a meaningless, tune-up, preseason game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanBarnes! 293 Report post Posted September 29, 2013 Bertuzzi>Samuelsson/Miller/Eaves 3 evilmrt, Detroit \# 1 Fan and Dominator2005 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites