Wombat 26 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 Don't worry, I'm sure the reason Sammy might play ahead of Tatar and Nyquist in game 1 is so Sammy can get a boo-boo that will keep him on LTIR for a month or two. That will then free up space for actual contributing hockey players. 2 matthewdanna and 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrasco 1,312 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) This team makes no damn sense. Evidently Tick Tock Babble Co. is not interested in icing the best team possible. "Tie goes to the veteran, not the kid." Bull-ish. Edited September 30, 2013 by rrasco 1 Detroit \# 1 Fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Superman54 91 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 someone shake those 2 and tell them its ok to tell our future UFA'S that don't belong here...THIS ISN'T PERSONAL, ITS BUSINESSand at first I thought they did say that to Cleary.... 1 Nev reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 Everything is as clear as mud at the moment. Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive 6m Cory Emmerton still on Wings' 23-man roster. Holland said earlier he was being sent to GR. Maybe they're able to squeeze him under the cap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) I highly, highly, highly, highly, highly, highly, highly doubt Babs is seriously considering bumping Tatar up to the 1st line. But anything's possible, I guess. Yeah, maybe wishful thinking on my part, but I still don't think he'll be a scratch Wednesday even if Tootoo is healthy. Babcock hasn't shown a desire to give tootoo ice time and he'll be coming in cold. Edited September 30, 2013 by PavelValerievichDatsyuk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) Don't worry, I'm sure the reason Sammy might play ahead of Tatar and Nyquist in game 1 is so Sammy can get a boo-boo that will keep him on LTIR for a month or two. That will then free up space for actual contributing hockey players. Normally I wouldn't hope for an injury to a player, but Samuelsson has reached freeloader status. I can't respect that. I'm sure he'd be perfectly content to simply sit at home and collect a paycheck anyhow. Edited September 30, 2013 by Crymson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewdanna 143 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 Eaves on LTIR too... are we keeping 23 or 22 players up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtomicPunk 296 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) We all knew it was going to come down to this when they re-signed Cleary and didn't buy out / waive / trade some of the rust. But fear not, Red Wing Fans! The Sammy Experiment should be over by the end of the week and he will be in the place he loves best, ice packs, Sportscreme, theraputic massages, and a totally undeserved paycheck. Edited September 30, 2013 by AtomicPunk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 I don't really have much to say, other than the look of that bottom six screams, "We've made mistakes". 1 GoWings1905 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 bertuzzi 0 pts sams 0 pts cleary 1 goal tatar 3 goals 1 assist he might not be defensively sound but he cant be worse than bert or sams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) They literally just moved stuff around, when eaves and if helm comes back, were gonna have some some problems. Edited September 30, 2013 by jimmyemeryhunter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeytownRules19 902 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 Also Ouellet has been recalled Looks like the Opening Night Roster is: Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Abdelkader Franzen-Weiss-Alfredsson Cleary-Andersson-Bertuzzi (I might be in the minority, but I like that third line) Miller-Emmerton-Samuelsson Tatar Kronwall-Ericsson Kindl-DeKeyser Quincey-Smith Lashoff-Ouellet Howard Coreau Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewdanna 143 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 http://kuklaskorner.com/a2y/comments/nyquist-boned?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter http://kuklaskorner.com/a2y/comments/nyquist-boned?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter It just doesn't make sense to me that we had the chance to field our best possible team and we chose not to. With Eaves on LTIR we could have kept Nyquist up. Sure he gets his 2 games and can't go down, so what? He should never have been sent down in their first place. Why keep Emdog up? Is he really that expendable? Once Helm or Eaves come back won't he have to go through waivers all over again? Someone call Jeff Gillooly to get a lead pipe ready for Sammy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 Coreau? Makes me question if this is the actual lineup that we'll see Wednesday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 Coreau? Makes me question if this is the actual lineup that we'll see Wednesday. Ya I don't see why Xavier would be up either. We have 7 healthy d-men Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 Ya I don't see why Xavier would be up either. We have 7 healthy d-men They are calling up only guys who don't have to worry about waivers (now or in the immediate future) but I don't see why Coreau is up over Mrazek or why we need 8 d-men. There's got to be something more to all of this. Something deep. Sinister. Pure "evil genius at work" kind of thing. Someone out there is planning to take over the universe, and it just might be Holland. Or maybe he just wants a bit more of a look-see at these guys and they have the lowest cap hits. 1 jimmyemeryhunter reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) They are calling up only guys who don't have to worry about waivers (now or in the immediate future) but I don't see why Coreau is up over Mrazek or why we need 8 d-men. There's got to be something more to all of this. Something deep. Sinister. Pure "evil genius at work" kind of thing. Someone out there is planning to take over the universe, and it just might be Holland. Or maybe he just wants a bit more of a look-see at these guys and they have the lowest cap hits. If that were the case, he'd have a combo of like Glendening (575K) and Nedomlel (612K). Coreau and Ouellet are making 925K and 894K, respectively. I'm pretty confused, personally. Edited September 30, 2013 by Jesusberg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,469 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 Also Ouellet has been recalled Looks like the Opening Night Roster is: Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Abdelkader Franzen-Weiss-Alfredsson Cleary-Andersson-Bertuzzi (I might be in the minority, but I like that third line) Miller-Emmerton-Samuelsson Tatar Kronwall-Ericsson Kindl-DeKeyser Quincey-Smith Lashoff-Ouellet Howard Coreau Emmerton is in GR, also I would be a fan of waving Lashoff in favour of Xavier Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrasco 1,312 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 Yeah, none of this adds up. Something might be up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeytownRules19 902 Report post Posted October 1, 2013 Emmerton is in GR, also I would be a fan of waving Lashoff in favour of Xavier Not anymore. Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive 1h Ken Holland said Cory Emmerton is able to start the season with Wings because Patrick Eaves was placed on long term IR Helene St. James @HeleneStJames 1h Cory Emmerton not to GR after all, part of Red Wings opening day roster, in all likelihood will center 4th line opening night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,789 Report post Posted October 1, 2013 I'd rather have Torontos fourth line than this edition of a fourth line I think the DetroitRedWings have given up too soon on Emmerton, sure he wasn't that great but the guy is still young and could improve why does it hurt to have him at a very low salary aav? Yeah, once again we have a throwaway 4th line, instead of a 4th line that can provide energy and physicality. Our 4th line is usually a bunch of jobbers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted October 1, 2013 Neither Yzerman nor Nill was all over this? Interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,789 Report post Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) Believe it or not, every general manager makes mistakes. If you're looking for one who doesn't, then you're going to come away disappointed. Holland has been excellent in most ways; he's got a good coaching staff, ices a competitive team no matter what, and has the system stocked full of excellent prospects despite a long-term, utter dearth of high draft picks. He's not counted by many as the best GM in the league for nothing, and the fact that he is imperfect does not mean that he is terrible. The Penguins had reportedly offered him a contract as well, even going so far as to have Crosby contact him. Babcock wanted Cleary, and indeed it seems that he wanted Cleary more than Holland did. Bertuzzi was still good for 40+ points per season when he was signed, and he was also a prime contributor in the shootout. I agree that Samuelsson was a terrible signing, though there's no knowing how things could have gone if not for his injuries last season. Fortunately, it was only two years. The dumb moves Holland has made have been no-brainers. Not just hindsight being 20/20. Bringing back Cleary and signing Sammy to that contract were moves anyone on LGW could foresee as mistakes. Holland needs to put more trust in guys in the minors, instead of giving us his "overripe" quote. If we're talking fruits, Tatar is and Nyquist are fresh, while Cleary and Sammy are rotten. Meanwhile, Bertuzzi is a dead plant. Yeah, he scored 40 points two years ago. He's 38 and basically didn't play last year. It's pathetic these guys are still on the roster, and it doesn't take a genius GM to see they're a mistake. Edited October 1, 2013 by GMRwings1983 2 Detroit \# 1 Fan and GoWings1905 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted October 1, 2013 What in flying f*** is going on? Nyquist down Emmerton centering the 4th line on Wednesday Tatar scratched Monster and Tootoo on IR, but not LTIR Man, the only thing exciting is that Oulette's been recalled, but why? None of this makes one pubic hair's worth of sense to me. I feel like I just took Salvia or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,789 Report post Posted October 1, 2013 What in flying f*** is going on? Nyquist down Emmerton centering the 4th line on Wednesday Tatar scratched Monster and Tootoo on IR, but not LTIR Man, the only thing exciting is that Oulette's been recalled, but why? None of this makes one pubic hair's worth of sense to me. I feel like I just took Salvia or something. We like our team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites