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#21 Dabura

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 01:09 PM

Glendening wouldn't help the too-many-players problem. I fear this means Cleary to the top line, with Abdelkader centering the third or fourth.


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Posted 29 September 2013 - 01:09 PM

I think Emmerton's value on the PK is being under appreciated here a bit. He deserves a bit of respect for that.

That being said, he's a replaceable. But I'm confused: how would swapping Emmerton with Glendenning relieve the cap and roster squeeze?
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Posted 29 September 2013 - 01:11 PM

If that's the case, the club likely would send forward Gustav Nyquist to Grand Rapids, at least temporarily. Nyquist is one of two players (defenseman Danny DeKeyser the other) who is exempt from waivers. Sending him down would clear $950,000 from the cap.

 


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Posted 29 September 2013 - 01:12 PM

Actually, Glendening wouldn't help either of our problems, would he? His cap hit is bigger than Emmerton's (unless I' mistaken), and he's another body.

 

Please no Cleary on the top line. For the love of all that is sacred and holy.


Edited by Dabura, 29 September 2013 - 01:13 PM.

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 01:13 PM

Yeah, set Emmerton free. Glendenning is definitely more noticeable and can actually produce a bit on the 4rth line.

Other teams will be excited to get what Emmy can give.

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 01:20 PM

I might be wrong on what I said earlier:

 

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With Emmerton on waivers, #RedWings think Joakim Andersson, Riley Sheahan & Luke Glendening can be viable 4th-line contributors in '13-14.


 

According to CapGeek, DeKeyser's cap hit this season is $850K. $850K plus $900K from Nyquist plus $533K for Emmerton equals $2.283m, which puts the Wings just over $100K above the cap. Bollocks.

 

Capgeek's own calculator must be wrong then.  Move him down to GR through that & it only takes off $500k.  Here are the results: http://capgeek.com/c...or/roster/33164

 

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Johan Franzen ($3.955m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Daniel Alfredsson ($5.500m) 
Danny Cleary ($1.750m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($3.000m) 
Drew Miller ($1.350m) / Stephen Weiss ($4.900m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m) 
Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m) 
Tomas Tatar ($0.840m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) 
Joakim Andersson ($0.733m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m) 
DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Kyle Quincey ($3.775m) 
Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) / Jakub Kindl ($2.400m) 
Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) / Brendan Smith ($1.263m) 
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m) 
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m) 
OTHER
Buried: Gustav Nyquist ($0.025m) 
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $66,889,545; BONUSES: $2,160,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): -$429,545

 

 

With just DeKeyser removed.  Difference from the current cap overage is just $500k

 

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER

My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Johan Franzen ($3.955m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Daniel Alfredsson ($5.500m) 
Danny Cleary ($1.750m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($3.000m) 
Drew Miller ($1.350m) / Stephen Weiss ($4.900m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m) 
Gustav Nyquist ($0.950m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m) 
Cory Emmerton ($0.533m) / Tomas Tatar ($0.840m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) 
Joakim Andersson ($0.733m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m) 
DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Kyle Quincey ($3.775m) 
Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) / Jakub Kindl ($2.400m) 
Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) / Brendan Smith ($1.263m) 
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m) 
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m) 
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,347,879; BONUSES: $2,160,000
CAP SPACE (25-man roster): -$1,887,879

 

According to this (http://capgeek.com/player/2415) his cap hit for this season including allowable bonuses is $1.350m.  $850k of that is possible performance bonuses that can delayed until next years' cap.  That plus Alfie's $2m & Tatar's $160k in bonuses are reflected in the Bonuses calc of $3.01m here.  Take their cap payroll of $69.7m, subtract out the $3.01m in deferable bonuses, & subtract out the cap ceiling of $64.3m for their cap overage of $2,387,879.  Nyquist, DeKeyser, & Emmerton do not get the Wings under the cap.


Edited by ogreslayer, 29 September 2013 - 01:37 PM.


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Posted 29 September 2013 - 01:22 PM

Zetterberg  Datsyuk  Cleary

Franzen  Weiss  Alfredsson

Bertuzzi  Andersson  Samuelsson

Miller  Abdelkader  Tootoo

 

Opening night lines?


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Posted 29 September 2013 - 01:40 PM

Holland just said that nobody else will be put on waivers before the beginning of the season.

 

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 01:41 PM

I think Emmerton's value on the PK is being under appreciated here a bit. He deserves a bit of respect for that.

That being said, he's a replaceable. But I'm confused: how would swapping Emmerton with Glendenning relieve the cap and roster squeeze?


I'm a bit tired of everyone saying "x" player is under appreciated on the pk... Eaves, miller, emmerton are all decent on th pk but they aren't "great" if we had all these great pk guys, do you think our pk would have been as bad as it was last year. Sorry but emmerton needs to go, he provides nothing useful, any minor contributions he may have are easily replaced by our prospects

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 01:44 PM

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 01:46 PM

Glendening wouldn't help the too-many-players problem. I fear this means Cleary to the top line, with Abdelkader centering the third or fourth.

 

I think there's a fair chance that Miller might end up getting a look at centering the 4th.

 

I think Emmerton's value on the PK is being under appreciated here a bit. He deserves a bit of respect for that.

That being said, he's a replaceable. But I'm confused: how would swapping Emmerton with Glendenning relieve the cap and roster squeeze?

 

Glendenning won't be making the team to start the season.  He has been mentioned as a possible call-up if more injuries happen.



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Posted 29 September 2013 - 01:52 PM

I'm a bit tired of everyone saying "x" player is under appreciated on the pk... Eaves, miller, emmerton are all decent on th pk but they aren't "great" if we had all these great pk guys, do you think our pk would have been as bad as it was last year. Sorry but emmerton needs to go, he provides nothing useful, any minor contributions he may have are easily replaced by our prospects


Easy. I said straight up that Emmerton was replaceable.

I tell you what I'M tired of. People talking s*** about a player that seems to be on his way out.

Yes, Emdog wasn't great, but I was just trying to be positive about some part of his game. I wish him luck.
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Posted 29 September 2013 - 02:05 PM

Easy. I said straight up that Emmerton was replaceable.

I tell you what I'M tired of. People talking s*** about a player that seems to be on his way out.

Yes, Emdog wasn't great, but I was just trying to be positive about some part of his game. I wish him luck.

 

I am not talking s***. I simply am stating the facts. I get what you are saying, but we need not defend players who are clearly not nhl caliber 



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Posted 29 September 2013 - 02:15 PM

Glendening wouldn't help the too-many-players problem. I fear this means Cleary to the top line, with Abdelkader centering the third or fourth.

 

Glendening is a center, and the players on LTIR will make the roster issue moot for the time being.



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Posted 29 September 2013 - 02:29 PM

Tons of players on waivers today. Any potential upgrades? Pick Liles, trade Q? Just a stupid example, I haven't seen the full list.

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 02:43 PM

Tons of players on waivers today. Any potential upgrades? Pick Liles, trade Q? Just a stupid example, I haven't seen the full list.

 

I think it's likely that anyone worthwhile will end up claimed.

 

Liles sucks.



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Posted 29 September 2013 - 03:51 PM

I don't know what people see in Glendenning that's supposedly so much better than Emmerton. 

 

 

 

Zetterberg  Datsyuk  Cleary

Franzen  Weiss  Alfredsson

Bertuzzi  Andersson  Samuelsson

Miller  Abdelkader  Tootoo

 

Opening night lines?

 

Would be shocked to see neither of Tatar and Nyquist in the lineup. 

If we're moving Abby down to the 4th line C, I'd want Alfredsson up there on the 1st line. Either try Cleary/Samuelsson/Bertuzzi on the 2nd line or, preferably, Tatar or Nyquist. 

 

Don't see Tootoo being in the lineup opening night. 



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Posted 29 September 2013 - 04:09 PM

 

Zetterberg  Datsyuk  Cleary

Franzen  Weiss  Alfredsson

Bertuzzi  Andersson  Samuelsson

Miller  Abdelkader  Tootoo

 

Opening night lines?

 

 

Cleary on the top line?  LOL.  That bum shouldn't even be on the team. 

 

Nyquist or Tatar should be in that lineup.  Not three old, washed up players.   


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Posted 29 September 2013 - 04:45 PM

 

Zetterberg  Datsyuk  Cleary

Franzen  Weiss  Alfredsson

Bertuzzi  Andersson  Samuelsson

Miller  Abdelkader  Tootoo

 

Opening night lines?

 

 

 

I'll take that as a joke.



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Posted 29 September 2013 - 05:17 PM

Z - Dats - Tatar
Francine - Weiss - Alf
Nyquist - Abdelkader - Bert
Miller/Tootoo - Andersson - Cleary/Tootoo

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