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#241 haroldsnepsts

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 10:12 PM

I have to think that the Wings must've known they wouldn't be able to buy out Sammy because of his "injury." 

 

It's hard for me to believe they would hang on to the guy knowing he would be a $3 million 4th liner playing 7 to 9 minutes a game.  What a waste of roster and cap space.

 

I didn't see the game tonight but from what I've heard and read, it sounds like they are truly a one line team at this point.  It's good that Zetteberg is off to a great start because the rest of the team sure isn't.



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Posted 10 October 2013 - 10:13 PM

Franzen blows, and Sammy blows more.

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 10:21 PM

Also, I think Babs needs to adjust the powerplay units. Sometimes when things are not going good, having one stacked unit needs to be split up, especially when Franzen is playing like garbage.

 

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Zetty- Pavs- Abby (has earned it and he will not be afraid to go to dirty areas like Homer used to)

Alfie- Kronners

 

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Franzen-Weiss- Tatar (the guy can freakin score!)

Kindl- Smith/ Danny D (eff off Sammy!)

but what about Bert, Cleary and Sammy? Babs doesn't want to hurt their feelings; don't worry, it'll only take them a few dozen games to get 'er going, then it'll be smooth sailing I'm sure



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Posted 10 October 2013 - 10:40 PM

I know it's early in the season, but it seems like Wings fans are getting trolled. This s*** storm of an excuse for four lines? All of this baggage Holland insists on keeping and Babcock insists on playing.

And to rub it all in, Filpulla had 2 goals tonight.
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Posted 10 October 2013 - 10:53 PM

Seeing the final score and reading about the game I am very glad, I had to miss it. People like me who were never fans of the off season moves are for sure in for a long season. It's just too damn hard to justify what Kenny was thinking this off season. None of the acquired players were highly thought after guys, Weiss already came out and said how he needs to adjust a lot of things in order to fit in well with the DetroitRedWings. I don't even blame him, he was offered a great contract after missing almost a full half season with a serious injury...I would have signed that too!

Alfie already looked slow and desinterested last season, add to that the internal problems with an not improving Franzen and you'll end up with 3 problems right away. Looking back I really believe the only way for this organization to finally wake up and finally give the young guns a chance, is to miss the playoffs for the first time since almost forever. This whole crap on hanging on to the vets started with bringing back Sammy :angry:

The former class of the NHL has now become a team filled with over the hill players with an enforcer called "powerplay" and basically a one line team, I can't believe the ownership is happy with what they are seeing. Even the Calgary Flames realized, it was time to let guys like Iginla go and bring in young guns.

Tatar, Nyquist and Andersson should be on this damn team and guess what, they would at least bring some speed and hunger instead of trying to hold on for another big pay cheque. People were bashing how much Clarkson is making but guess what, he brings it all every night will stick up for his team mates and provides energy, I'd rather have him compared to Weiss his salary looks like a bargain.

The Coyotes are hardly known for their offense and yet the DetroitRedWings only managed to score two goals against them, will be fun playing against some of the elite teams in the East, but I guess Kenny still likes this super exciting fun to watch 1 line team

btw. the perfect human chose his retirement very wisely like always perfectly..

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 11:01 PM

Seeing the final score and reading about the game I am very glad, I had to miss it. People like me who were never fans of the off season moves are for sure in for a long season. It's just too damn hard to justify what Kenny was thinking this off season. None of the acquired players were highly thought after guys, Weiss already came out and said how he needs to adjust a lot of things in order to fit in well with the DetroitRedWings. I don't even blame him, he was offered a great contract after missing almost a full half season with a series injury...I would have signed that too! Alfie already looked slow and desinterested last season, add to that the internal problems with an not improving Franzen and you'll end up with 3 problems right away. Looking back I really believe the only way for this organization to finally wake up and finally give the young guns a chance, is to miss the playoffs for the first time since almost forever. This whole crap on hanging on to the vets started with bringing back Sammy :angry: The former class of the NHL has now become a team filled with over the hill players with an enforcer called "powerplay" and basically a one line team, I can't believe the ownership is happy with what they are seeing. Even the Calgary Flames realized, it was time to let guys like Iginla go and bring in young guns. Tatar, Nyquist and Andersson should be on this damn team and guess what, they would at least bring some speed and hunger instead of trying to hold on for another big pay cheque. People were bashing how much Clarkson is making but guess what, he brings it all every night will stick up for his team mates and provides energy, I'd rather have him compared to Weiss his salary looks like a bargain. The Coyotes are hardly known for their offense and yet the DetroitRedWings only managed to score two goals against them, will be fun playing against some of the elite teams in the East, but I guess Kenny still likes this super exciting fun to watch 1 line team

 

 

Awful and inaccurate post. Alfie looked disinterested last season? Hmm I don't know what games you were watching. In the first two games Alfie looked fantastic... you could really see the hunger in him. These last two games, the entire team looked off... Alfie will be GREAT for us, mark my words.

 

As for Weiss, I have not been too impressed yet, but I think the key to him is he will get going as soon as Alfie does and as soon as Babs gives him some help on that 2nd PP unit. I do agree with you on the young guys tho... they need to be playing over Sammy and Cleary big time.



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Posted 10 October 2013 - 11:06 PM

this team blows



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Posted 10 October 2013 - 11:08 PM

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#249 rick zombo

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 11:09 PM

I have to think that the Wings must've known they wouldn't be able to buy out Sammy because of his "injury." 
 
It's hard for me to believe they would hang on to the guy knowing he would be a $3 million 4th liner playing 7 to 9 minutes a game.  What a waste of roster and cap space.
 
I didn't see the game tonight but from what I've heard and read, it sounds like they are truly a one line team at this point.  It's good that Zetteberg is off to a great start because the rest of the team sure isn't.


The good news is that they can now use that 2nd buyout on Franzen next summer......
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Posted 10 October 2013 - 11:11 PM

Seeing the final score and reading about the game I am very glad, I had to miss it. People like me who were never fans of the off season moves are for sure in for a long season. It's just too damn hard to justify what Kenny was thinking this off season. None of the acquired players were highly thought after guys, Weiss already came out and said how he needs to adjust a lot of things in order to fit in well with the DetroitRedWings. I don't even blame him, he was offered a great contract after missing almost a full half season with a serious injury...I would have signed that too!

Alfie already looked slow and desinterested last season, add to that the internal problems with an not improving Franzen and you'll end up with 3 problems right away. Looking back I really believe the only way for this organization to finally wake up and finally give the young guns a chance, is to miss the playoffs for the first time since almost forever. This whole crap on hanging on to the vets started with bringing back Sammy :angry:

The former class of the NHL has now become a team filled with over the hill players with an enforcer called "powerplay" and basically a one line team, I can't believe the ownership is happy with what they are seeing. Even the Calgary Flames realized, it was time to let guys like Iginla go and bring in young guns.

Tatar, Nyquist and Andersson should be on this damn team and guess what, they would at least bring some speed and hunger instead of trying to hold on for another big pay cheque. People were bashing how much Clarkson is making but guess what, he brings it all every night will stick up for his team mates and provides energy, I'd rather have him compared to Weiss his salary looks like a bargain.

The Coyotes are hardly known for their offense and yet the DetroitRedWings only managed to score two goals against them, will be fun playing against some of the elite teams in the East, but I guess Kenny still likes this super exciting fun to watch 1 line team

btw. the perfect human chose his retirement very wisely like always perfectly..

 

 

Haha, you'd rather have Clarkson than Weiss eh?  Let me know when Clarkson finally plays a game this season. 


GMRwings:  "Well, in other civilized countries, 16 years old isn't considered underage.  For instance, I believe the age of consent is 16 in Canada.  There's some US states where it's 16 as well.  

 

Get off the high horse.  Not like she was 10."

 

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 11:12 PM

I have to think that the Wings must've known they wouldn't be able to buy out Sammy because of his "injury." 
 
It's hard for me to believe they would hang on to the guy knowing he would be a $3 million 4th liner playing 7 to 9 minutes a game.  What a waste of roster and cap space.
 
I didn't see the game tonight but from what I've heard and read, it sounds like they are truly a one line team at this point.  It's good that Zetteberg is off to a great start because the rest of the team sure isn't.

The good news is that they can now use that 2nd buyout on Franzen next summer......


and send Sammy to the Griffins.

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#252 rick zombo

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 11:14 PM

and send Sammy to the Griffins.


No need. His contract is up and even Holland won't be crazy enough to bite that rotten apple.
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Posted 10 October 2013 - 11:54 PM

Every free agent on offense needs to hit free agency. Not sure how much cap space cab be cleared by letting them all walk but I hope most will be filled by Griffins next season



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Posted 11 October 2013 - 12:06 AM

At least the Tigers won. 


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Posted 11 October 2013 - 12:23 AM

Is anyone here really that surprised? Phoenix has played like crap so far (Smith in particular) so of course they were going to win. Let's hope the Flyers on Saturday are as bad as the Wings were tonight



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Posted 11 October 2013 - 12:40 AM

Didn't watch the game but just by looking at boxscore, we look ordinary and mediocre.  Good thing it's still early ... we need pressure to turn it on.  



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Posted 11 October 2013 - 02:04 AM

This team will gel and look better, this was obviously an off night for the entire team. Unrelated to tonight's game, but Tootoo needs to get back in there. Seems kind of weird to have your GM sign a guy to a 3 year deal then barely play him over the course of his contract.



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Posted 11 October 2013 - 02:14 AM

Ugh, the sad news is that Babs will almost certainly change the lines...but in some silly way that is arguably worse than what we've got now.  Can't wait to see Sammy/Bert/Cleary in the top six.  It's coming boys and girls, mark my words.


GMRwings:  "Well, in other civilized countries, 16 years old isn't considered underage.  For instance, I believe the age of consent is 16 in Canada.  There's some US states where it's 16 as well.  

 

Get off the high horse.  Not like she was 10."

 

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Posted 11 October 2013 - 03:03 AM

Third line scored a goal, no way Babcock will break that line. Speed monsters Cleary, Andy and Bert!


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Posted 11 October 2013 - 04:04 AM

I think it is time Babcock does a little line juggling here. Alfie had a rough game tonight, but even Pavs looks like he is doing too much... lets simplify things.
 
I think Babs should load up the top line, and it isn't to punish Abby because he has been fantastic. In fact, I think Babs needs to use Abby on the 2nd line to spark some energy for them.
 
I would like to see
 
Zetty- Datsyuk-Alfie (Pavs and Hank are just so good, that they will get Alfie going and I feel all he needs is that 1st one and then he will relax and be more confident. Also, having a right-handed shot on this line could do wonders. It would be, no doubt, the smartest line in hockey.)
 
Franzen- Weiss- Abby (Abby will provide some much needed energy to this line and will go to the net)
 
Nyquist-Anderson- Tatar (just do it already, for the love of God I don't care how Kenny does it, just do it!)
 
And then the 4th line

This. I agree it is time to shuffle things around a bit.
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