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So the Wings have beaten Philly, Boston, & Columbus.

Boston being a heavy weight. But, for a young team trying to figure some things out it's not a bad stretch at all.

I like the defense & the powerplay kill. I have litte question they will get the rest going.

All in all I'm pretty happy

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So the Wings have beaten Philly, Boston, & Columbus.

Boston being a heavy weight. But, for a young team trying to figure some things out it's not a bad stretch at all.

I like the defense & the powerplay kill. I have litte question they will get the rest going.

All in all I'm pretty happy

Second line sucks. I would rather it be nyquist Weiss and Tatar. Won't happen but one can dream

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So the Wings have beaten Philly, Boston, & Columbus.

Boston being a heavy weight. But, for a young team trying to figure some things out it's not a bad stretch at all.

I like the defense & the powerplay kill. I have litte question they will get the rest going.

All in all I'm pretty happy

How are the wings a young team?

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Second line sucks. I would rather it be nyquist Weiss and Tatar. Won't happen but one can dream

psst....That's my 2nd line in NHL14 GM mode. I like it.

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Second line sucks. I would rather it be nyquist Weiss and Tatar. Won't happen but one can dream

I remember a time when LGWs was dominated by people who complained that the Wings weren't big or gritty enough.

I have to ask: do you really think that a 2nd line of Nyquist - Weiss - Tatar has enough size to consistently get it done against other teams 2nd line and 2nd pairing D-men?

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I remember a time when LGWs was dominated by people who complained that the Wings weren't big or gritty enough.

I have to ask: do you really think that a 2nd line of Nyquist - Weiss - Tatar has enough size to consistently get it done against other teams 2nd line and 2nd pairing D-men?

The Hawks top 6 aren't very big. The beat the Bruins to win the Cup last year.

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psst....That's my 2nd line in NHL14 GM mode. I like it.

My second line is Weiss, Franzen, and Jurco.

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The Hawks top 6 aren't very big. The beat the Bruins to win the Cup last year.

While I love the hell out of Nyquist, and think Tatar desrves a spot, those two + Weiss can not match the skill of the Hawks 2nd line.

But is that your answer? Goose - Weiss - Tatar are good enough to be our 2nd line this year? I want to hear you say it.

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I remember a time when LGWs was dominated by people who complained that the Wings weren't big or gritty enough.

I have to ask: do you really think that a 2nd line of Nyquist - Weiss - Tatar has enough size to consistently get it done against other teams 2nd line and 2nd pairing D-men?

While both have shown the capability of handling themselves, over the course of a few games and even a season, they would get worn out real fast. None the less, the league hasn't learned of their traits yet. Having to play against defense that knows your style and moves... makes it a lot harder to play against. More so, are they capable of surpassing higher levels of defensive play thrown their way? I would agree with you that there is absolutely no chance I personally would want that line to be our 2nd line. Weiss still is learning how to play structured systems such as Babcocks. His plan relies heavily on thinking without the puck, along with it. You can tell Weiss still is thinking in his head, "What should I be doing right now? Where should I be? Oh s***, I gotta be over here!" He's admitted that this is all new to him. Nyquist can handle the full 200-ft game but Tatar is still working on it. It's been one of the main reasons Goose had more playing time than Tats. Tats can score at the cyclic but if you aren't attending to a full 200-ft game, it's not good enough to Babs. The biggest thing besides the size of that line is their capacity of shutting down other top lines playing the full 200-ft game.

From what i've been able to watch there's some good but there is also many unknowns. The first line, well, Pasha and Sasha just looking like the pure euro-twin connection we know them as. They're doing stupid good so far this season. I like Bert on there, he can hold his own and I do believe Babs is making the right decision by throwing Abby further down to spark other lines. Abby's honestly turned into more than just a plug. He's getting it done. He's an actual piece to the puzzle now. Alfie reminds me of a Brunner right now, not in the sense of playing styles but that he is going to benefit more from playing on the 3rd line and working the PP. I think his age is showing and Babs and himself know that it's probably the best interest to play him on the 3rd. It gives really good depth. Franzen.. he's always just pissing me off. Could be such a player but he doesn't want to exert the energy to showcase it. It's really sad. He reminds me of someone who is just simply too scared to try "too hard" or allow people to see them play "too hard" and not put up the points. They basically shut themselves down because they're too scared of showcasing that they're trying but not to the level of expectancy. I'm not sure if that makes complete sense, but hopefully it does. Eaves and Miller have always played the same role and I think Miller has shown that he wants to stay in the line up, It's been a pleasure to watch Glendening and Miller kill penalities. Eaves is more shooter-prone I believe, but I really see him getting released... (it's sad to see especially after the whole jaw thing..)

All in all, I think the team's got the capacity of being a really good team this year.

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I remember a time when LGWs was dominated by people who complained that the Wings weren't big or gritty enough.

I have to ask: do you really think that a 2nd line of Nyquist - Weiss - Tatar has enough size to consistently get it done against other teams 2nd line and 2nd pairing D-men?

no but I just want them on the team.

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Because Abby, Miller, Glendening, Kindl, Ericsson, Smith, Lashoff, Dekeyser, Tatar, Quincey, Andersson, Howard, and Gustavsson are all in their twenties.

which does not equal young in pro spots

Besides Glendening, Tatar, Lashoff, Dekeyeser, Andersson, and Smith this team is full of veterans

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which does not equal young in pro spots

Besides Glendening, Tatar, Lashoff, Dekeyeser, Andersson, and Smith this team is full of veterans

We have more guys in their twenties than in their thirties. Now apparently we're not young enough. Do we need to be Edmonton to be considered young? Oh wait, their average age of 27.2 isn't noticeably different than our 28.6. That average will be even lower in two weeks when Helm and Eaves return to the lineup. Buffalo has the lowest average age in the league at 25.3. Unless you're splitting hairs we're just as young as everybody else...within reason.

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Second line sucks. I would rather it be nyquist Weiss and Tatar. Won't happen but one can dream

i actually liked what a saw from line 2 vs columbus. weiss and abs being the work horses and mule didnt look that lazy

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I remember a time when LGWs was dominated by people who complained that the Wings weren't big or gritty enough.

I have to ask: do you really think that a 2nd line of Nyquist - Weiss - Tatar has enough size to consistently get it done against other teams 2nd line and 2nd pairing D-men?

no but I just want them on the team.

I want these guys on the team also but not as a second more as a third line, for the simple fact to ease them in, sometimes patience is nice and good but in other cases I think letting players, who are clearly ready overripen in the AHL can be dangerous too.

Tatar and especially Nyquist need to bulk up once they have done so, I think they might become a very good line in the future. Impressed with Danny D and monster so far.

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Overall, I'm happy with where we're at. I do miss the old ways of the old days, when we could snooze for an entire game and still win by a four-goal margin, relying on our obscene collective skill level alone to carry us. But those days are long gone, and you know what? In a way, it's a good thing. Because it means every man has to really bring it every game or we're in trouble. I'm not necessarily saying our, say, blue line is better without Lidstrom, Stuart, and Rafalski (it's not), but you get the point. There can't be any coasting (unless you're Franzen) (OH YES I DID), and I like that. It brings out the best in the guys. It keeps them honest.

Same idea with Helm and Nyquist being out. We're having to find a way to get things done without them, and so when they do finally return, it should - like Holland says - be like adding two big acquisitions to an already formidable lineup.

I think the biggest and/or most plesant surprise - at least for me - has been Daniel Alfredsson. We're all expecting him to be a secondary or tertiary contributor, but so far he's been one of our most valuable players. (Alright, maybe not from the beginning of the season - but certainly over the past several games.) It's funnny because, the way Holland framed it, Alfie is supposed to be more of a goal-scorer and Weiss is supposed to be more of a playmaker. But it's sort of been the other way around, no?

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BTW the RW are the second oldest team in the NHL. But of course that isn't the point of this thread. I said before the season I thought we would start of well. Our speed and skill would be an advantage for the first 30-50 games. Our D is playing well-expected, our G's are playing well-expected, and we are struggling to score-also expected. At some point we need a second line to gel, which hasn't happened as of yet.

But so far, so good. Enjoy it while it lasts!

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BTW the RW are the second oldest team in the NHL. But of course that isn't the point of this thread. I said before the season I thought we would start of well. Our speed and skill would be an advantage for the first 30-50 games. Our D is playing well-expected, our G's are playing well-expected, and we are struggling to score-also expected. At some point we need a second line to gel, which hasn't happened as of yet.

But so far, so good. Enjoy it while it lasts!

They're the fourth oldest team in the league behind New Jersey, Florida, and Pittsburgh. But you're right, it's not the point of this thread.

http://stats.nhlnumbers.com/teams

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It changes every time a team makes a move, but 2nd or 4th, doesn't really matter.

I agree, but you could just as easily say 4th or 10th, doesn't really matter. The average ages are so tight across the league that it's pretty hard to argue that one team is "old" and therefore disadvantaged, while another is "young" and therefore has a leg up. Not that you were making that argument, but others have.

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Overall, I'm happy with where we're at. I do miss the old ways of the old days, when we could snooze for an entire game and still win by a four-goal margin, relying on our obscene collective skill level alone to carry us. But those days are long gone, and you know what? In a way, it's a good thing. Because it means every man except Franzen has to really bring it every game or we're in trouble. I'm not necessarily saying our, say, blue line is better without Lidstrom, Stuart, and Rafalski (it's not), but you get the point. There can't be any coasting except by Franzen, and I like that. It brings out the best in all the guys except Franzen . It keeps everybody but Franzen honest.

Same idea with Helm and Nyquist being out. Everybody but Franzen is having to find a way to get things done without them, and so when they do finally return, it should - like Holland says - be like adding two big acquisitions to an already formidable lineup.

I think the biggest and/or most plesant surprise - at least for me - has been Daniel Alfredsson. We're all expecting him to be a secondary or tertiary contributor, but so far he's been one of our most valuable players. (Alright, maybe not from the beginning of the season - but certainly over the past several games.) It's funnny because, the way Holland framed it, Alfie is supposed to be more of a goal-scorer and Weiss is supposed to be more of a playmaker. But it's sort of been the other way around, no?

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I agree, but you could just as easily say 4th or 10th, doesn't really matter. The average ages are so tight across the league that it's pretty hard to argue that one team is "old" and therefore disadvantaged, while another is "young" and therefore has a leg up. Not that you were making that argument, but others have.

exactly, would you rather have a 26 year old or a 27 year old player... it's not much different

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