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#21 Z Winged Dangler

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 01:19 PM

I still think our best bet is to make him a forward.

Package a forward and whatever For a good D man and move Smith upfront ah la Brett Burns.

A couple years down the road you've got Smith Andy Mantha or Smith Helm Mantha

He's got the tools and the skills and enough speed, he's just mis- cast as a defenseman.

That may actually work.  I'd take him on forward if he played the position even like his brother, who is a pain in the ass bottom 6 guy to play against.  He has the speed for sure.  Maybe he'd enjoy just forechecking the hell out of guys.  A line of Smith-Helm-Tootoo would be interesting.  Hey guys, lets go out there, skate really fast, get 10 hits a shift and then Smitty and Toots can fight guys!


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 01:50 PM

I'm not giving up on him.  Apparently some of you forgot what Ericsson was like his first few years. 

Difference to me is that E had a great stretch when he first came up, then took a step back but atleast we knew he had it in him. Also I don't think he was ever quite as bad as Smith is defensively. Imagine how bad Smith would look if we still had Lids, Raffi and Stuart? E was the weakest link of a stacked defense, Smith is by far the weakest link of a much less stacked D.

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 02:00 PM

I'm rubbing my beard and going to say patience with Smith.



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Posted 20 October 2013 - 03:30 PM

Difference to me is that E had a great stretch when he first came up, then took a step back but atleast we knew he had it in him. Also I don't think he was ever quite as bad as Smith is defensively. Imagine how bad Smith would look if we still had Lids, Raffi and Stuart? E was the weakest link of a stacked defense, Smith is by far the weakest link of a much less stacked D.

 

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Smith's first 14 games in the NHL he scored 7 points and was a +3, which lead all our defense in scoring besides Kronwall.  He displayed incredible vision and patience with the puck, and when he pinched in, the results usually yielded excellent scoring opportunities, if not goals.

 

 


EDIT:  Just read Echolalia's post and realized I'm saying basically the same thing.  So what he said.  :D

 

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Edited by Echolalia, 20 October 2013 - 03:34 PM.


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 03:37 PM

I forgot Smith used to fight.  Keep him.

 

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 03:47 PM

trade him. hes good at offense and sucks at defense.



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Posted 20 October 2013 - 03:51 PM

What we really need is for Lids to sit him down and punch him in the face, repeatedly.


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 03:56 PM

trade him. hes good at offense and sucks at defense.

If only he was good at offense. He shows glimpses, but if he'd produce I'd forgive some defensive errors.

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 04:11 PM

Ericsson and Kindl were both like that.  We knew that they had potential, but it was hard to see beyond flashes here and there.

 

I'm not ready to punt on Smith yet.  I also don't want him playing big minutes yet.  Hopefully he'll have a good season in the not-too-distant future and come around.

 As was Jiri Fischer.



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Posted 20 October 2013 - 04:30 PM

smith simply is not that intelligent
 
he makes stupid plays
 
he says stupid things
 
he even has a stupid look on his face
 
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"DERP"
 
it was unfortunate that they used that high pick on a dumb player


Edited by fat guy in a maltby jersey, 20 October 2013 - 04:42 PM.


#31 Nevermind

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 05:30 PM

Smith+Tatar+draft pick for Dan Girardi when the Rangers realize they're not gonna make the playoffs. Would anyone make that deal?

 

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 06:00 PM

Brendan Smith might get better but I don't think that he is not replaceable. I say shop him and if good value can be had let him go. Lashoff>Smith



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Posted 20 October 2013 - 06:45 PM

Quincey holds back Smith as far as development goes.

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 07:00 PM

Difference to me is that E had a great stretch when he first came up, then took a step back but atleast we knew he had it in him. Also I don't think he was ever quite as bad as Smith is defensively. Imagine how bad Smith would look if we still had Lids, Raffi and Stuart? E was the weakest link of a stacked defense, Smith is by far the weakest link of a much less stacked D.

 

Yes but wasn't Ericsson paired with Lidstrom a lot during that great stretch?

 

You could put me on the ice in my socks but if I'm paired with Lidstrom I'll probably end up looking ok.  Pair me with Quincey and it's a different story.



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Posted 21 October 2013 - 03:21 AM

smith simply is not that intelligent
 
he makes stupid plays
 
he says stupid things
 
he even has a stupid look on his face
 
AAHos9P.jpg
"DERP"
 
it was unfortunate that they used that high pick on a dumb player

:lol:



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Posted 21 October 2013 - 08:24 AM

Smith will be okay. If he had a better partner that would help. It baffles me that he doesn't get 2nd unit pp time. He's an offensive dman use him like one

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 08:31 AM

 

Yes but wasn't Ericsson paired with Lidstrom a lot during that great stretch?

 

You could put me on the ice in my socks but if I'm paired with Lidstrom I'll probably end up looking ok.  Pair me with Quincey and it's a different story.

 

See: White, Ian.


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Posted 21 October 2013 - 08:57 AM

Ericsson would have great stretches offset by worst-timed stupidity that cost the team games.

Thus far, Smith hasn't had great stretches. Ericsson worked out but there's nothing to make is expect Smith to work out. Smith lacks confidence and as a result is always jumpy. I don't remember a lack of confidence being a flaw of Ericsson's. He worked to fix things and they got fixed. Smith says he will work on things but he continues to look totally shaken at all times.

That being said, he should be given more time.
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Posted 21 October 2013 - 09:53 AM

Interesting. Ouellet's been recalled.

 

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Posted 22 October 2013 - 12:38 AM

Ericsson and Kindl were both like that.  We knew that they had potential, but it was hard to see beyond flashes here and there.

 

I'm not ready to punt on Smith yet.  I also don't want him playing big minutes yet.  Hopefully he'll have a good season in the not-too-distant future and come around.

 

This is exactly right.  Smith is where Kindl was two years ago.  Then he has a game like tonight and you can see his potential.  I think a lot of it is mental: Focus and Confidence







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