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#21 Echolalia

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 11:30 AM

This is a good opportunity for Smith.  He's going to be the "veteran" of that bottom-pairing.  Sometimes an increase in responsibilities can lead to growth.

Also Tatar is playing?  I hope he capitalizes on his ice time, particularly on the defensive side of the puck.  His first game was a disaster.



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Posted 21 October 2013 - 11:47 AM

So what happens if Ouellet looks better than Smith tonight?

 

This is what I'm hoping for. And XO is good enough that it's not outside the realm of possibility.

 

Not that anything would come of it.

 

"[Ouellet] will go down and learn to play the right way, learn to be hard on the puck, how to be an everydayer, then one day he'll get a chance to grab some Opportunity for himself. You gotta grab some Opportunity, because if you don't, someone else will. But certainly we feel he's gonna be a real good player for us down the road. But you gotta earn your ice like everyone else, that's how it's always been." (Khan does a write-up on Ouelett's bright future.)


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Posted 21 October 2013 - 11:53 AM

So what happens if  when Ouellet looks better than Smith tonight?

 

:lol:


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Posted 21 October 2013 - 12:04 PM

Have I mentioned how badly we need to pick up a top defenseman?
 
Looks like we'll be dropping to an ugly 6-4-0.

No team's defense would look bad (on paper) if their top pair was injured.

It could get messy or the team could overcome it. Let's see what happens. Atleast we'll get a look at what Oullet is made of.

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 12:20 PM

khan is reporting now that ericsson's wife went into labor last night and that's why he won't play tonight.. injured shoulder isn't serious.

 

Bah. How lame! Hockey > childbirth...

 

(joking)



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Posted 21 October 2013 - 12:27 PM

No team's defense would look bad (on paper) if their top pair was injured.

 

Obviously losing the top two is a blow for any team. But some teams are deep enough that they can take it and really run with it, stay competitive despite it. When you look at the blue line we'll be icing tonight...I wouldn''t want to even risk having to go into postseason battle with it. I'd want another high-end veteran defenseman in the mix. If he gets injured along with Kronwall and Ericsson, well, then we're just cursed.

 

Not to be overly pessimistic here, but I don't think tonight will reveal a lot either way, i.e. if we do well, that's nice, if we don't do well, that's nice. It's the playoffs I worry about (though, admittedly, not nearly as much as when we were in the truly *Big, Bad* West).

 

It's not that I necessarily don't think or young guns will pan out. I think XO, Sproul, Almqvist, even Smith - these guys have fantastic potential, both individually and perhaps even more so as a future Red Wings unit. Actually, I think the future of our blue line is about as bright as it gets today, in the Salary Cap Era.

 

It's just, well, Z and D. The clock is ticking. They're not getting any younger.


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Posted 21 October 2013 - 12:43 PM

Obviously losing the top two is a blow for any team. But some teams are deep enough that they can take it and really run with it, stay competitive despite it. When you look at the blue line we'll be icing tonight...I wouldn''t want to even risk having to go into postseason battle with it. I'd want another high-end veteran defenseman in the mix. If he gets injured along with Kronwall and Ericsson, well, then we're just cursed.
 
Not to be overly pessimistic here, but I don't think tonight will reveal a lot either way, i.e. if we do well, that's nice, if we don't do well, that's nice. It's the playoffs I worry about (though, admittedly, not nearly as much as when we were in the truly *Big, Bad* West).
 
It's not that I necessarily don't think or young guns will pan out. I think XO, Sproul, Almqvist, even Smith - these guys have fantastic potential, both individually and perhaps even more so as a future Red Wings unit. Actually, I think the future of our blue line is about as bright as it gets today, in the Salary Cap Era.
 
It's just, well, Z and D. The clock is ticking. They're not getting any younger.

We 'need' another veteran depth-d. Someone to throw in the #6 spot if none of Smith/Lashoff/Almqvist/Oullet prove themselves ready for it. That's really it though. . You can't build a team to be a contender without the top 2 defensemen, not in the salary cap era. You think Boston makes it far without Chara and Seidenberg? When healthy we have a good defensive group.

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 12:46 PM

 

Bah. How lame! Hockey > childbirth...

 

(joking)

No kidding.  He's already credited with the assist. 

 

(joking as well.  all the best to the E family)



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Posted 21 October 2013 - 12:46 PM

should be good! 



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Posted 21 October 2013 - 12:57 PM

 

Pretty sure the lines are:

 

Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Abdlekader

Bertuzzi - Franzen - Alfredsson

Tatar - Weiss - Cleary

Miller - Andersson - Tootoo (with the possibility of Samuelsson playing)

 

I just saw this, my bad. Great news, when was the last time Franzen started a game at center? Must really be hoping to get Weiss going against softer match-ups.

 

EDIT: And I've been waiting for Tatar to get back in the lineup.


Edited by b.shanafan14, 21 October 2013 - 12:58 PM.


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Posted 21 October 2013 - 01:01 PM

No kidding.  He's already credited with the assist. 
 
(joking as well.  all the best to the E family)


:lol:

I snorted coffee at my desk. One of the first tweets that went out about this was very strangely worded, something like "E's gf had a baby this weekend." I was like...is it his? Because I don't know, that's kind of a big deal lol.

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 01:01 PM

Sure hope Kenny can pull off a trade at some point, to bring in a top-4 d-man. Pretty sad state of affairs when Quincey is your temporary #1.


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Posted 21 October 2013 - 01:03 PM

Sure hope Kenny can pull off a trade at some point, to bring in a top-4 d-man. Pretty sad state of affairs when Quincey is your temporary #1.

Even scarier when we're all worried about losing Ericsson.



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Posted 21 October 2013 - 01:17 PM

Good news is that Brent Burns is out as well.

Sure hope Kenny can pull off a trade at some point, to bring in a top-4 d-man. Pretty sad state of affairs when Quincey is your temporary #1.

 

There's a reason why it's so difficult to obtain top-four defensemen: they're very valuable, so they rarely go on the market. See here for more details.



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Posted 21 October 2013 - 01:57 PM

Have I mentioned how badly we need to pick up a top defenseman?

 

Looks like we'll be dropping to an ugly 6-4-0.

 

No point in watching then, eh?


Good news is that Brent Burns is out as well.

 

Is he even on D anymore?  He was playing forward last year.


Edited by rrasco, 21 October 2013 - 01:56 PM.

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 02:33 PM

So what happens if Ouellet looks better than Smith tonight?


He will be sent back to GR and there will subsequently be a fresh batch of "Fire Holland/Babcock" , "trade Smith" and other "I'm pissed off" threads.

I'm hoping he pulls a DeKeyser and does so well that he becomes a mainstay...but this is unlikely, unfortunately.


 
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Posted 21 October 2013 - 03:16 PM

Nothing like a bit of adversity to see what a team is made of. Makes me excited to catch the game tonight.

 

All the whining about wanting kids in the lineup. Here ya go, folks. 



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Posted 21 October 2013 - 03:18 PM

Thinking about it, this is our worst D that we've iced since February 2008 when we were absolutely riddled with injuries.  From memory the pairings were

 

Lilja-Lebda

Quincey-Meech

Stafford-Ericsson

 

And that was Lilja before he became a cult hero, Lebda was Lebda, Quincey was so bad he got waived, Meech was Meech, Ericsson looked every bit the 7th round forward turned defenceman project that he was, and I can't even remember a thing about Stafford.


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Posted 21 October 2013 - 03:18 PM

There's a reason why it's so difficult to obtain top-four defensemen: they're very valuable, so they rarely go on the market. See here for more details.

Well yeah, it's not like we'll be able to package Eaves and Sammy to get one. But IMO we need to do whatever it takes. Even if that means giving up more than what we would like to. There's basically only a few untouchable forwards in my book (Pav, Hank, Alfie, Weiss). Everyone else should be considered (even Mule) if it means we can bring in a solid top-4 guy. There's gotta be a team out there willing to give up a top 4 guy as long as they're getting overly compensated in return.


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Posted 21 October 2013 - 03:20 PM

Thinking about it, this is our worst D that we've iced since February 2008 when we were absolutely riddled with injuries.  From memory the pairings were

 

Lilja-Lebda

Quincey-Meech

Stafford-Ericsson

 

And that was Lilja before he became a cult hero, Lebda was Lebda, Quincey was so bad he got waived, Meech was Meech, Ericsson looked every bit the 7th round forward turned defenceman project that he was, and I can't even remember a thing about Stafford.

 

Wasn't chelios playing during that injured stretch? Could have sworn he was on the top pairing when everyone else went down with injuries







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