RaisedOnHockeytown 17 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 I'd say it's all over but the crying, but I'm crying now. 1 WingsAlways reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 It's fitting that Weiss is wearing the same number Modano wore here. 1 TheXym reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MotorCityMadness 388 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 Don't mind Cleary as much as others on here but he is useless against EVERY team Fixed it for ya 1 datterberg1340 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
datterberg1340 626 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 The replay really emphasizes Smith standing there watching Spezza score on the bounce. Ack. Why isn't Gus pulled? Not saying they're all on him, but he looks totally rattled. Howie gave up the first 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 The replay really emphasizes Smith standing there watching Spezza score on the bounce. Ack. Why isn't Gus pulled? Not saying they're all on him, but he looks totally rattled. That was Datsyuk's fault. He let Spezza skate past him, and didn't have his back turned to the play, unlike Smith. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjr2012 439 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 I cant believe how bad things have gone the last 3 games we win 4 in a row now its looking we are going to lose 3 time to get something changed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 Is Weiss evenf****** playing? Dude is garbage. At least Filppula was good looking. 1 puckbags reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yeti 244 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 can we get howie in as a defensman? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richdg 267 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 Compete level. wasn't that the excuse for not getting Ryan? Who btw has 5 goals in 8+ games, is 26, RHed, makes 5.2 million and has 1 year after this on his contract. Versus Alfie, Cleary, tatar, and Nyquist who combined have 2 goals and cost us about 8.5 million this year. I am not one that thinks Holland makes a lot of mistakes, but this is a big one. We are a scoring challenged team, and Ryan puts in 30+ every full year. 1 Detroit \# 1 Fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 The replay really emphasizes Smith standing there watching Spezza score on the bounce. Ack. Why isn't Gus pulled? Not saying they're all on him, but he looks totally rattled. Gus has only let in one goal. Jimmy was pulled after three in the first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 That was Datsyuk's fault. He let Spezza skate past him, and didn't have his back turned to the play, unlike Smith. but...but smith and cleary are at fault for everything bad that happens against the wings! 1 haroldsnepsts reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 My mistake, I came in when it was 3-0 and saw some quick replays of the earlier goals. Didn't see it was Howard to start. EDIT: And the replay they showed was an angle that didn't even show Datsyuk in the center, which is why I thought Smith made the mistake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheXym 2,606 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 but...but smith and cleary are at fault for everything bad that happens against the wings! I thought that was Sammy and Jason f***ing Williams? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 The top line is really the only one that generates consistent pressure. The bottom-six is just a jumbled combination of nothing. Remember how good the third line was in the playoffs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckbags 863 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 I don't know why anyone is suprised with our play this year..we are a very simliar team to last year. We will have 4 game winning streaks..we will have 4 game losing streaks..until we get faster ( Gus and Tatar ) this is the way it will be..we are a good team that will have to get hot at the right time of year again. 2 sjr2012 and Detroit \# 1 Fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 The top line is really the only one that generates consistent pressure. The bottom-six is just a jumbled combination of nothing. Remember how good the third line was in the playoffs? Too bad Nyquist is in GR, while Brunner was allowed to leave. Just so we could bring back Cleary and make room for Sammy and Bert, two guys Holland kept around too long. 1 datterberg1340 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 Alfies doing everything he can, and Cleary was literally just standing in his way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 Bertuzzi's done exactly what we wanted and expected of him. I really don't have a problem with him in the lineup. Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Bertuzzi is a real-gud line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 Too bad Nyquist is in GR, while Brunner was allowed to leave. Just so we could bring back Cleary and make room for Sammy and Bert, two guys Holland kept around too long. Brunner was gone before cleary was ever resigned. it's been known almost all summer brunner wasnt coming back. brunner is not here because of brunner, not holland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted October 24, 2013 Compete level. wasn't that the excuse for not getting Ryan? Who btw has 5 goals in 8+ games, is 26, RHed, makes 5.2 million and has 1 year after this on his contract. Versus Alfie, Cleary, tatar, and Nyquist who combined have 2 goals and cost us about 8.5 million this year. I am not one that thinks Holland makes a lot of mistakes, but this is a big one. We are a scoring challenged team, and Ryan puts in 30+ every full year. No, the "excuse" for not getting Ryan is that he cost a lot. The Ducks got two of the Senators' three best prospects---one of whom thus far has as many goals as Ryan does---plus a 1st in the upcoming draft. But yes, it's true that Ryan also had a dismal series against the Wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 I'd like Quincey so much more if he'd shoot at the net and not into the corner/boards every single time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjr2012 439 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 (edited) we got to do something with the lines its not producting anything Zetty Dats Abby frazen Weiss tatar bert Andy Alfie Cleary Glen Tootoo Edited October 24, 2013 by sjr2012 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckbags 863 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 Bertuzzi's done exactly what we wanted and expected of him. I really don't have a problem with him in the lineup. Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Bertuzzi is a real-gud line. I'm surprised with Bert..didnt think he could play with those guys..he's been good..he can't play top minutes all the time but in spurts he looks usable Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted October 24, 2013 Too bad Nyquist is in GR, while Brunner was allowed to leave. Just so we could bring back Cleary and make room for Sammy and Bert, two guys Holland kept around too long. I don't know why I really bother anymore, but... allowed to leave? He had a decent season during which he had stretches of brutal inconsistency and ended up being most productive on the 3rd line. He nevertheless demanded good money and top-six minutes, which no team was willing to give him until New Jersey started scrambling and decided to give him a chance. In no way did Cleary figure into this, and nothing could be done about Samuelsson or Bertuzzi. Brunner was replaced by Alfredsson, who has thus far been vastly more effective. Sometimes it seems that you invent fantasies to justify complaint. 3 marcaractac, BottleOfSmoke and kipwinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike J. 132 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 Tootoo is the only interesting player to watch right now. Everyone's looking sloppy tonight Share this post Link to post Share on other sites