Kmahrle83 61 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 I had Shanny and Hull scoring on picture perfect one timers on consecutive PP's in mine...Lidstrom had assists on both Oh yeah? Well each one of the russian 5 has a goal in the game I'm watching! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted October 24, 2013 Compete level. wasn't that the excuse for not getting Ryan? Who btw has 5 goals in 8+ games, is 26, RHed, makes 5.2 million and has 1 year after this on his contract. Versus Alfie, Cleary, tatar, and Nyquist who combined have 2 goals and cost us about 8.5 million this year. I am not one that thinks Holland makes a lot of mistakes, but this is a big one. We are a scoring challenged team, and Ryan puts in 30+ every full year. This just in. Quality players cost a lot! yes, all of the various RW news/rumors sites said that "Holland wasn't interested because he was concerned about his compete level". But then again you know this. You just don't want to admit that Ryan is a superior player to the 4 guys I mentioned combined! which I predicted before the season. By "various RW news/rumors sites," perhaps you mean Helene St. James. She is the sole individual who stated that. Given that of the four players you have referred to one has not played a game, another gets barely any playing time, and a third has more points than Ryan... well, screw it. I'm not going to bother. ferraro just said helm is out again with a groin?? Helm has always had a groin. I suspect most players do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRW Dominance 255 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 Abby is the only hitter on that list. If you're expecting the other players you listed to hit, you've got another thing coming. they can they just don't....u can add miller and tootoo to that as well. mind you i'll give tootoo a pass cause he brings it pretty much every night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjr2012 439 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 (edited) I have no idea what we are going to do when Eaves gets back Edited October 24, 2013 by sjr2012 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richdg 267 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 By "various RW news/rumors sites," perhaps you mean Helene St. James. She is the sole individual who stated that. Given that of the four players you have referred to one has not played a game, another gets barely any playing time, and a third has more points than Ryan... well, screw it. I'm not going to bother. Are you really going to compare secondary assists to goals scored? really? ya tatar and nyquist are so great and such key parts of our team, we can't possibly trade them for a proven and young goal scorer. that would make no sense what so ever. Now I have that off of my chest for a while. Water under the bridge. Nothing can be done about it......at least for another 18 months......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,476 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 What the deuce happened? After a ling day this is what I come home to? Who is responsible for this debauchery? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 Nyquist + Helm will help, but will it really solve things? Probably not. And that's troubling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 What the deuce happened? After a ling day this is what I come home to? Who is responsible for this debauchery? Ultimately....... 2 Z Winged Dangler and datterberg1340 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 By "various RW news/rumors sites," perhaps you mean Helene St. James. She is the sole individual who stated that. Given that of the four players you have referred to one has not played a game, another gets barely any playing time, and a third has more points than Ryan... well, screw it. I'm not going to bother. Haha dude you can't give up. The internet rules clearly state that if you don't make common sense points over and over ad nauseam, those very points are thus invalid. So the choice is simply, admit Ryan is better than four guys or keep arguing until you're exhausted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MotorCityMadness 388 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 Oh yeah? Well each one of the russian 5 has a goal in the game I'm watching! Ahh the good ole days...now we get to watch guys like Cleary and Samuelsson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 Are you really going to compare secondary assists to goals scored? really? ya tatar and nyquist are so great and such key parts of our team, we can't possibly trade them for a proven and young goal scorer. that would make no sense what so ever. Now I have that off of my chest for a while. Water under the bridge. Nothing can be done about it......at least for another 18 months......... You do realize that more often than not goals have to be setup by team mates right? how many of ryan's 5 goals are unassisted? how many of those does he score without a team mate to pass it to him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 I had Shanny and Hull scoring on picture perfect one timers on consecutive PP's in mine...Lidstrom had assists on both Goal off Homer from a blast from the blue by Lids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 In an effort to salvage this game, I think Babs should shuffle the lines at least two or three more times in the third. Other than Pavs, Hank, and Kronwall, every player is just as good as every other players. Our entire team is interchangeable from game to game. 1 sjr2012 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 The Cleary signing is looking worse and worse. I've actually thought he's been okay, but we desperately need Nyquist in the lineup and Cleary's stopping that. Is it terrible that I'm wishing for something minor like a broken pinky to put him on LTIR? Sorry. We shouldn't be getting killed like this in the scoring department. After our 2 goal lead in Phoenix we've been outscored 9-1, not including losing a shootout. The dynamic needs to change. If that means splitting up Z and D, so be it. Franzen-Zetterberg-Alfredsson Bertuzzi-Datsyuk-Tatar Cleary-Weiss-Abdelkader Miller-Andersson-Tootoo Try it...until Nyquist comes and saves us. 1 Internet.Unknown reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MotorCityMadness 388 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 Can't wait to here Babs' take of the 1st two periods Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings_fanatic 677 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 This game is demonstrating how Babcock is not using lines properly, and how Kenny failed to allow babs to ice the best team possible by not playing Nyquist. Cleary has not been bad this year, but we still had no reason to bring him back to this team. The fact that we signed him knowing we would have to keep Gus in the minors is simply retarded. Either way, Babs has got to do something with his lines, because they are NOT working. He needs to figure out a way to get Weiss going. I love how Babs is demoting Alfie, but PROMOTING Cleary!!!!! We are not scoring goals because we have Alfie playing on the 3rd and 4th line now, while Cleary is on the 2nd line. I have noticed a trend the past few seaosons that whatever line Cleary is on, goal production goes down. Cleary has no place on the top 6 and Babcock needs to fix that. Z-Dats-Bert Tatar-Weiss-Alfie (Weiss will benefit from Tatar's speed and I think that will get Weiss going. I think Alfie provide a nice veteran presence to the line with some clutch and his vision) Abby-Anderson-Franzen (Franzen is lazy and he pisses me off on the top 6 so this can be a checking line that can chip in offensively) Bottom line is that Helm needs to stop gettting injured. It is ridiculous. When he is back, things will be so much better for this team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWang 422 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 At the game. ******* PISSED. I want my god damn money back. Utterly infuriating. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted October 24, 2013 Goal off Homer from a blast from the blue by Lids. Zetterberg from Datsyuk and Holmstrom. Cleary has not been bad this year, but we still had no reason to bring him back to this team. The fact that we signed him knowing we would have to keep Gus in the minors is simply retarded. I disagree. I have seen nothing to suggest that Cleary has not been completely useless. Tatar has gotten rewarded. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 Tatar-Datsyuk-Alfredsson Franzen-Z-Bert to start the 3rd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 Hahahahahahaha, he did mix the lines up again. Nothing like developing chemistry by playing with six different guys in three different periods. Here's a thought, why not use the same lines you did when you beat VERY good hockey teams in Boston and Colorado? You know, winning lineups. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 I disagree. I have seen nothing to suggest that Cleary has not been completely useless. Tatar has gotten rewarded. He's only 1 point away from being tied for 5th in points among our forwards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 I've seen the Wings play bad, but this particular effort is Phillybad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rhah 195 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 This game is ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 Ugly, ugly game. This forward group needs Helm and Nyquist desperately. Otherwise it's one line and very slow. 1 Z Winged Dangler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,476 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 I can't watch this garbage... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites