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#201 brett

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 08:03 PM

tatar has been our best forward



#202 VM1138

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 08:03 PM

We just don't get those second chances.  One shot, rebound goes to the other team. Just like last year.


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Posted 23 October 2013 - 08:03 PM

 

I don't know why I really bother anymore, but... allowed to leave? He had a decent season during which he had stretches of brutal inconsistency and ended up being most productive on the 3rd line. He nevertheless demanded good money and top-six minutes, which no team was willing to give him until New Jersey started scrambling and decided to give him a chance. In no way did Cleary figure into this, and nothing could be done about Samuelsson or Bertuzzi. Brunner was replaced by Alfredsson, who has thus far been vastly more effective.

 

Sometimes it seems that you invent fantasies to justify complaint.

 

I invent fantasies too..they arent about hockey though 


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Posted 23 October 2013 - 08:03 PM

Tatar looks great. Skates hard and drives to the net.
 
 
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Posted 23 October 2013 - 08:03 PM

 
I don't know why I really bother anymore, but... allowed to leave? He had a decent season during which he had stretches of brutal inconsistency and ended up being most productive on the 3rd line. He nevertheless demanded good money and top-six minutes, which no team was willing to give him until New Jersey started scrambling and decided to give him a chance. In no way did Cleary figure into this, and nothing could be done about Samuelsson or Bertuzzi. Brunner was replaced by Alfredsson, who has thus far been vastly more effective.
 
Sometimes it seems that you invent fantasies to justify complaint.


Count me in as another one who is OVER the Brunner discussion. I wanted him back more than most, but I think some people are rewriting history in their head. He was given multiple offers by the Wings, and CHOSE to move on. End of story.

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 08:05 PM

What did Mickey say about Helm a few minutes ago?


GMRwings:  "Well, in other civilized countries, 16 years old isn't considered underage.  For instance, I believe the age of consent is 16 in Canada.  There's some US states where it's 16 as well.  

 

Get off the high horse.  Not like she was 10."

 

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 08:05 PM

Tatar looks great. Skates hard and drives to the net.

And plays bigger than his size.  


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Posted 23 October 2013 - 08:06 PM

Babs should cut Cleary again.
 
 
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Posted 23 October 2013 - 08:07 PM

 

No, the "excuse" for not getting Ryan is that he cost a lot. The Ducks got two of the Senators' three best prospects---one of whom thus far has as many goals as Ryan does---plus a 1st in the upcoming draft. But yes, it's true that Ryan also had a dismal series against the Wings.

This just in. Quality players cost a lot! yes, all of the various RW news/rumors sites said that "Holland wasn't interested because he was concerned about his compete level". But then again you know this. You just don't want to admit that Ryan is a superior player to the 4 guys I mentioned combined! which I predicted before the season.



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Posted 23 October 2013 - 08:07 PM

Tatar looks great. Skates hard and drives to the net.

so it's probably about time that Babs sends him back down, then

 

you know, for more seasoning



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Posted 23 October 2013 - 08:07 PM

 

I don't know why I really bother anymore, but... allowed to leave? He had a decent season during which he had stretches of brutal inconsistency and ended up being most productive on the 3rd line. He nevertheless demanded good money and top-six minutes, which no team was willing to give him until New Jersey started scrambling and decided to give him a chance. In no way did Cleary figure into this, and nothing could be done about Samuelsson or Bertuzzi. Brunner was replaced by Alfredsson, who has thus far been vastly more effective.

 

Sometimes it seems that you invent fantasies to justify complaint.

 

Why not give him top 6 minutes and good money?  I'd rather overpay him by $1 million than pay Cleary what he's making, and have him playing occasional top 6 minutes. Or for that matter, playing any minutes at all.

 

The Sammy/Bertuzzi thing is me taking a shot at Holland for signing Sammy to that contract a year ago.  Bertuzzi isn't bad, but he's too inconsistent and doesn't add to our team speed.  He's big, but doesn't scare opponents anymore.  He's also taking up a roster spot, and has been for years.    

 

It's not a coincidence that Brunner is gone, while Tatar and Nyquist are scrambling to stay in the lineup.  Meanwhile, at least two out of the three old men are playing every game.  Our young players have to wait forever to get roster spots, while old players wait forever before they're phased out of the lineup.  Holland is mismanaging the team right now.  I know you'll mention his past successes, but right now, he's not that good a GM.  


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Posted 23 October 2013 - 08:07 PM

Hrmph. That 4th goal just killed us. Looked like it was reasonably likely we could come back before that. Ottawa haven't had enough chances to warrant 4 goals, but that's the way it goes sometimes. Defense has been sloppy, kind of an expected risk with new d-pairings. 

 

What's worrying is the extreme difficulty we have lately with creating any sustained offensive pressure. If our 1st line isn't pulling magic out of the bag we're not doing much.. 

 

Nyquist + Helm will help, but will it really solve things? I hope Weiss can soon become someone we see more consistently on the scoresheet, we need 40-50 points out of him..



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Posted 23 October 2013 - 08:07 PM

RAFALSKI!

 

Oh, did I say that out loud? I've decided to watch this game in my head.


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Posted 23 October 2013 - 08:08 PM

this game is disgusting.  when we look bad we look really bad.  no heart or intensity. 

 

where's the hits from abby, cleary, bert, franzen the floater....no forecheck at all.


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Posted 23 October 2013 - 08:09 PM

Annnnnnnd right into the chest. 




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Posted 23 October 2013 - 08:09 PM

this game is disgusting.  when we look bad we look really bad.  no heart or intensity. 

 

where's the hits from abby, cleary, bert, franzen the floater....no forecheck at all.

 

Abby is the only hitter on that list.  If you're expecting the other players you listed to hit, you've got another thing coming.  


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Posted 23 October 2013 - 08:09 PM

RAFALSKI!
 
Oh, did I say that out loud? I've decided to watch this game in my head.


I don't know what game you're watching, but Yzerman just scored on a beauty of a pass from Fedorov in the game I'm watching.

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 08:09 PM

This just in. Quality players cost a lot! yes, all of the various RW news/rumors sites said that "Holland wasn't interested because he was concerned about his compete level". But then again you know this. You just don't want to admit that Ryan is a superior player to the 4 guys I mentioned combined! which I predicted before the season.

 

Yeah, until the playoffs roll around. 



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Posted 23 October 2013 - 08:10 PM

ferraro just said helm is out again with a groin??


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Posted 23 October 2013 - 08:11 PM

Would it kill our defensemen to knock off the asinine stretch passes from deep in our zone and perhaps carry the puck up the ice before hitting a forward in flight?


GMRwings:  "Well, in other civilized countries, 16 years old isn't considered underage.  For instance, I believe the age of consent is 16 in Canada.  There's some US states where it's 16 as well.  

 

Get off the high horse.  Not like she was 10."

 

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