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#41 dirtydangles

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 09:22 PM

THE Plan would be:

 

1. Francine trade: At the worst case, trade him for Booth (reunited with Weiss... and still 1 year on his contract). Francine and twins sister's could be interesting for Canucks.

 

2. Quincey trade: Since his best days were in LA, I would send him, Eaves and a pick to Kings for Clifford.

 

3. Emmerton and a pick for Rundbland, I think that at this point his value is low... but he could be nice fit here with Either Kindl or DeKe. Provide us option for the 2nd PP unit.

 

4. Sammy: bye/bye

 

 

Z - Dats - Bert

Alf - Weiss - Tatar

Nyquist/Booth - Andersson - Abdelkader/Clifford

Clifford - Helm - Tootoo/Miller/Cleary

 

Kronwall - E

Kindl - Rundbland

DeKe - Smith

Almquist - Lashoff - Ouellet (as a 7th D)

Trading Franzen to Vancouver and taking on Booth is terrible for us! Franzen will retire before his contract is up and we will take the brunt of the contract penalty (we can buy him out this offseason instead). Instead we take on 1 more year of booth at 4.25mill and he is more useless than franzen then years down the road we get stuck with franzen's cap penalty from retirement. 

 

EDIT: I like the rundblad idea - but bags would destroy him (another offensive dman)


Edited by dirtydangles, 08 November 2013 - 09:23 PM.

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#42 Dabura

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 06:22 AM

It's coming....


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Posted 09 November 2013 - 09:14 AM

It's coming....

dont tease me.


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#44 Dabura

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 10:28 AM

THE PLAN

(Subject to change)

x

Trade for Claude Giroux (PHI)

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Franzen + Nyquist + Tatar + 1st-round pick

x

Trade for Tomas Fleischmann (FLA)

x

Quincey + Andersson

x

Trade for Elias Lindholm (CAR)

x

Mrazek

x

Trade for Michal Rozsíval (CHI)

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Eaves + 2nd-round pick

x

Make Samuelsson miserable

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Bad vibes + veiled threats

x

Trade a miserable Samuelsson to EDM for a draft pick

 

Send Tootoo down to the farm

 

Convert Smith into a forward

 

If over the cap...get under it. I dunno

 

 

New and Improved Lineup

x

Todd Bertuzzi  Henrik Zetterberg  Claude Giroux

Brendan Smith  Pavel Datsyuk  Daniel Alfredsson

Tomas Fleischmann  Stephen Weiss  Justin Abdelkader

Elias Lindholm  Darren Helm  Daniel Cleary

(Miller, Glendening)

x

Niklas Kronwall  Danny DeKeyser

Jonathan Ericsson  Jakub Kindl

Brian Lashoff  Adam Almqvist

Michal Rozsíval

x

Jimmy Howard

Jonas Gustavsson

 

:champs:


Edited by Dabura, 09 November 2013 - 10:42 AM.

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#45 RedWang

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 11:08 AM

Uknow id hate to see gustav n tats go...but claude giroux...yeah ok id probably do it. That lineup would win a cup.

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 11:23 AM

Have a standing offer to the opponent, injure/clobber our useless players (Sammuelsson, Cleary), trade for Wayne SImmonds


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Posted 09 November 2013 - 12:07 PM

THE PLAN

(Subject to change)

x

Trade for Claude Giroux (PHI)

x

Franzen + Nyquist + Tatar + 1st-round pick

x

Trade for Tomas Fleischmann (FLA)

x

Quincey + Andersson

x

Trade for Elias Lindholm (CAR)

x

Mrazek

x

Trade for Michal Rozsíval (CHI)

x

Eaves + 2nd-round pick

x

Make Samuelsson miserable

x

Bad vibes + veiled threats

x

Trade a miserable Samuelsson to EDM for a draft pick

 

Send Tootoo down to the farm

 

Convert Smith into a forward

 

If over the cap...get under it. I dunno

 

 

New and Improved Lineup

x

Todd Bertuzzi  Henrik Zetterberg  Claude Giroux

Brendan Smith  Pavel Datsyuk  Daniel Alfredsson

Tomas Fleischmann  Stephen Weiss  Justin Abdelkader

Elias Lindholm  Darren Helm  Daniel Cleary

(Miller, Glendening)

x

Niklas Kronwall  Danny DeKeyser

Jonathan Ericsson  Jakub Kindl

Brian Lashoff  Adam Almqvist

Michal Rozsíval

x

Jimmy Howard

Jonas Gustavsson

 

:champs:

I thought this was going to be a realistic plan. 



#48 dirtydangles

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 12:18 PM

First off - "The Plan" is so unrealistic (sorry if it was a joke). Only realistic trades are the Chicago and FLA ones. Flyers aren't doing that trade regardless of the value. Giroux is not much older than Nyquist and already PPG. Also Why the hell would we convert smith and make him a top 6 forward? Why would we get a player like Lindholm and put him on the 4th line? Mrazek won't get that trade done either. 


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#49 dirtydangles

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 12:27 PM

I honestly think our entire issue would be solved if we had another high quality hard working top 6 winger to play on the second line with Weiss and Alfie. Franzen isn't that guy. Nyquist could be. Or we could trade for someone. We just don't have enough high quality top 6 players in our top 6. 


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Posted 09 November 2013 - 01:05 PM

I honestly think our entire issue would be solved if we had another high quality hard working top 6 winger to play on the second line with Weiss and Alfie. Franzen isn't that guy. Nyquist could be. Or we could trade for someone. We just don't have enough high quality top 6 players in our top 6. 

Agreed. He COULD be...but no.

I do think we need a top Puck moving Dman to really put us into serious contention.

Was it Talon who recently said "Our better players need to be better or we'll get better players" ?

Edited by T.Low, 09 November 2013 - 01:26 PM.


#51 dirtydangles

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 10:10 PM

Barring a Trade - that will never happen (Girardi would be nice). This is what I would do this offseason:

 

Trim the fat: Quincey, Cleary, Bert, Sammy, Eaves all gone. 

Buyout Franzen: This needs to happen for the future of the team cap-wise and the compete level on the ice. 

Promote kids for bottom 6 duty: Lets get some competition in the bottom six between some youngsters. This team lacks compete and accountability for poor games.

Sign a top winger: Vanek would be nice but there are a few options out there.

 

I honestly think this is addition by subtraction. Get the team sorted out long term and figure out the identity of the team. The following year Alfie would retire so I would bring up Jurco/Jarnkrok if ready. Sorry if the cap numbers aren't what you expect - I have no clue where the cap will be next year but I think there is wiggle room. 

 

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($7.500m) / Vanek/Gaborik/UFA Winger ($7.500m) 
Gustav Nyquist ($0.950m) / Stephen Weiss ($4.900m) / Daniel Alfredsson ($4.500m) 
Tomas Tatar ($1.000m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) 
Drew Miller ($1.350m) / Joakim Andersson ($0.733m) / Riley Sheahan ($0.800m) 
Luke Glendening ($0.700m) / Landon Ferraro ($0.750m) / 
DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($4.000m) 
Brendan Smith ($1.263m) / Danny DeKeyser ($1.300m) 
Xavier Ouellet ($0.894m) / Jakub Kindl ($2.400m) 
Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) / 
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m) 
Thomas Greiss ($0.750m) 
OTHER
Buyout: Johan Franzen ($0.000m) 
Buried: Jordin Tootoo ($0.975m) 
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,039,167; BONUSES: $224,167
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,485,000


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#52 brett

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 12:27 AM

This season is f***ed with Sammy and cleary. I won't expect any moves. Maybe move smith before his value drops anymore.
Next season. Sign sniper and top 2 dman

#53 PumpkinEscobar

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 12:34 AM

Ride it out to the off season and let all the free agent forwards go plus Quincey and buyout Franzen



#54 Son of a Wing

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 01:31 AM

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER

My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($7.500m) / Vanek/Gaborik/UFA Winger ($7.500m) 
Gustav Nyquist ($0.950m) / Stephen Weiss ($4.900m) / Daniel Alfredsson ($4.500m) 
Tomas Tatar ($1.000m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) 
Drew Miller ($1.350m) / Joakim Andersson ($0.733m) / Riley Sheahan ($0.800m) 
Luke Glendening ($0.700m) / Landon Ferraro ($0.750m) / 
DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($4.000m) 
Brendan Smith ($1.263m) / Danny DeKeyser ($1.300m) 
Xavier Ouellet ($0.894m) / Jakub Kindl ($2.400m) 
Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) / 
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m) 
Thomas Greiss ($0.750m) 
OTHER
Buyout: Johan Franzen ($0.000m) 
Buried: Jordin Tootoo ($0.975m) 
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,039,167; BONUSES: $224,167
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,485,000

 

Few things I would change with this. First off I think you underestimate what Dekeyser is going to get paid. He makes 1.775 this year with his bonus and there's no denying his value.  If his deal is 3 years or more it will easily be over 3 million.

 

I would expect Gustavsson back with a very slight raise. The way Bertuzzi is playing he might even have one more year(If we can't acquire someone else).

 

Mitchell Callahan is eligible for waivers next year too and plays RW. Could be a scrappy 4th line guy.  It'll be nice that Glendening will be waiver exempt next year as well.

 

Sproul and Almquist wll get their shots too.


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#55 frankgrimes

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 07:52 AM

Given two facts: 1. MacDavid draft 2. offense is questionable after Z and Pasha I would say go from retool into rebuild in terms of offense: let the veterans walk, re-sign monster and DeKeyser and bring up more youth from the Rapids. Finally buyout stop gaps If the DetroitRedWings are going to suck the price atnthe end will be a generational one ;-)

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#56 dirtydangles

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 01:01 PM

 

Few things I would change with this. First off I think you underestimate what Dekeyser is going to get paid. He makes 1.775 this year with his bonus and there's no denying his value.  If his deal is 3 years or more it will easily be over 3 million.

 

I would expect Gustavsson back with a very slight raise. The way Bertuzzi is playing he might even have one more year(If we can't acquire someone else).

 

Mitchell Callahan is eligible for waivers next year too and plays RW. Could be a scrappy 4th line guy.  It'll be nice that Glendening will be waiver exempt next year as well.

 

Sproul and Almquist wll get their shots too.

I agree on Callahan. As for the cap - lets hope it goes up a bit and we can squeeze out enough money to re-sign Alfie AND nab a top 6 winger. PS. I don't think its right to re-sign Gus and pay more - that would be like 7-8 mill in goaltending alone. With Howard's contract and ability to carry the load I think we should go for a cheaper option - we can always use Mrazek a bit too like this season.


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#57 PumpkinEscobar

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 07:06 PM

I think Mrazek will be the backup next season because I think he's earned it



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Posted 12 November 2013 - 11:55 AM

there was talk on page two about yakupov and apparently his agent is going to meet with the oilers and talk about how they've been using yakupov.... said he's open to moving him, to any team.

 

also, his agent happens to be igor larionov.. i thought that was interesting.

 

 

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#59 dirtydangles

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 04:58 PM

there was talk on page two about yakupov and apparently his agent is going to meet with the oilers and talk about how they've been using yakupov.... said he's open to moving him, to any team.

 

also, his agent happens to be igor larionov.. i thought that was interesting.

 

 

http://prohockeytalk...edmonton-brass/

it would be sweet to have dats and yak together - but we just don't have the pieces to get a former no1 overall


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#60 dirtydangles

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 10:31 PM

Apparently Kulikov is available... anyone interested? If we could get Q off this team and Kulikov on I would sleep a lot better at night. 


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