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#81 Playmaker

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 02:24 PM

19 of the 30 NHL teams are at or within a million dollars of the cap.  It's so easy just to say "make a trade", but not so easy to do in the salary cap era.  We've put 3 players on waivers and no one wants them.  That's kind of saying a lot.



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Posted 15 November 2013 - 02:44 PM

19 of the 30 NHL teams are at or within a million dollars of the cap.  It's so easy just to say "make a trade", but not so easy to do in the salary cap era.  We've put 3 players on waivers and no one wants them.  That's kind of saying a lot.


I think part of that (most of) has to do with the fact that the salary cap went down, so all these teams that were sitting pretty with cap space no longer are.

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 05:11 PM

Kulikov/Del Zotto/Girardi at the right price would be something I would look into if I were GM of the Detroit Red Wings. Holland is probably in talks with Brett Lebda over a 5 year deal instead. 


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 05:16 PM

The only players whose contracts expire next year are: Samuelsson, Bertuzzi, Cleary, Alfredsson, Quincey, Ericsson, Gustavsson and Eaves.  The RFAs who will need to be locked up will be DeKeyser and Tatar.

 

With our glut of forwards, the only one I think Holland will even offer to re-sign will be Alfredsson and Bertuzzi.  Maybe not even Bertuzzi.  Realistically, Alfredsson may not be back.  On defense, only Ericsson has earned a new contract, Gustavsson may be brought back, but he won't get a raise, at least not substantial.  Eaves will be gone as well.  That's 16.8 million freed up (even considering Alfredsson's deferred bonus).

 

16.8 plus the cap going up to the high 60 million runs us around 22-23 million.

 

We will need to sign or re-sign a backup goalie and Ericsson, but beyond that we don't NEED to fill any positions.  I'd still like to upgrade a few, but we'll have enough to ice a team.  

 

Ericsson will take 5 million hopefully.  Gustavsson, or whoever is our backup, will make between 1 and 2 million.  That leaves us with 15 million to play with, give or take a few million.  That's two really good players.  If any such players will be entering the free agent market this summer.


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 05:26 PM

The only players whose contracts expire next year are: Samuelsson, Bertuzzi, Cleary, Alfredsson, Quincey, Ericsson, Gustavsson and Eaves.  The RFAs who will need to be locked up will be DeKeyser and Tatar.

 

With our glut of forwards, the only one I think Holland will even offer to re-sign will be Alfredsson and Bertuzzi.  Maybe not even Bertuzzi.  Realistically, Alfredsson may not be back.  On defense, only Ericsson has earned a new contract, Gustavsson may be brought back, but he won't get a raise, at least not substantial.  Eaves will be gone as well.  That's 16.8 million freed up (even considering Alfredsson's deferred bonus).

 

16.8 plus the cap going up to the high 60 million runs us around 22-23 million.

 

We will need to sign or re-sign a backup goalie and Ericsson, but beyond that we don't NEED to fill any positions.  I'd still like to upgrade a few, but we'll have enough to ice a team.  

 

Ericsson will take 5 million hopefully.  Gustavsson, or whoever is our backup, will make between 1 and 2 million.  That leaves us with 15 million to play with, give or take a few million.  That's two really good players.  If any such players will be entering the free agent market this summer.

I'd think Ericsson won't make any more than Kronwall. Furthermore, I do see Alfie returning. We can't afford to pay more than 1mill for a backup with Howard making so much (it doesn't make any sense). So even if the cap doesn't go up I think we can probably have around 7mill for a Vanek/Gaborik. 


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 05:37 PM

The only players whose contracts expire next year are: Samuelsson, Bertuzzi, Cleary, Alfredsson, Quincey, Ericsson, Gustavsson and Eaves.  The RFAs who will need to be locked up will be DeKeyser and Tatar.

 

With our glut of forwards, the only one I think Holland will even offer to re-sign will be Alfredsson and Bertuzzi.  Maybe not even Bertuzzi.  Realistically, Alfredsson may not be back.  On defense, only Ericsson has earned a new contract, Gustavsson may be brought back, but he won't get a raise, at least not substantial.  Eaves will be gone as well.  That's 16.8 million freed up (even considering Alfredsson's deferred bonus).

 

16.8 plus the cap going up to the high 60 million runs us around 22-23 million.

 

We will need to sign or re-sign a backup goalie and Ericsson, but beyond that we don't NEED to fill any positions.  I'd still like to upgrade a few, but we'll have enough to ice a team.  

 

Ericsson will take 5 million hopefully.  Gustavsson, or whoever is our backup, will make between 1 and 2 million.  That leaves us with 15 million to play with, give or take a few million.  That's two really good players.  If any such players will be entering the free agent market this summer.

 

The only players whose contracts expire next year are: Samuelsson, Bertuzzi, Cleary, Alfredsson, Quincey, Ericsson, Gustavsson and Eaves.  The RFAs who will need to be locked up will be DeKeyser and Tatar.

 

With our glut of forwards, the only one I think Holland will even offer to re-sign will be Alfredsson and Bertuzzi.  Maybe not even Bertuzzi.  Realistically, Alfredsson may not be back.  On defense, only Ericsson has earned a new contract, Gustavsson may be brought back, but he won't get a raise, at least not substantial.  Eaves will be gone as well.  That's 16.8 million freed up (even considering Alfredsson's deferred bonus).

 

16.8 plus the cap going up to the high 60 million runs us around 22-23 million.

 

We will need to sign or re-sign a backup goalie and Ericsson, but beyond that we don't NEED to fill any positions.  I'd still like to upgrade a few, but we'll have enough to ice a team.  

 

Ericsson will take 5 million hopefully.  Gustavsson, or whoever is our backup, will make between 1 and 2 million.  That leaves us with 15 million to play with, give or take a few million.  That's two really good players.  If any such players will be entering the free agent market this summer.

Hey, awesome, we will have lots of cap space and Suter and Parise are UFAs!  We're set!



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Posted 15 November 2013 - 05:41 PM

Yeah, now Holland needs only to actually spend the money.


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 05:51 PM

I'd think Ericsson won't make any more than Kronwall. Furthermore, I do see Alfie returning. We can't afford to pay more than 1mill for a backup with Howard making so much (it doesn't make any sense). So even if the cap doesn't go up I think we can probably have around 7mill for a Vanek/Gaborik. 

 

Well technically speaking Kronwall makes 6 mil in salary right now. The only reason the cap hit is less is because it goes till he's 38 and is a backdiving contract.

 

Unless Ericsson signs a similar deal that lasts until around the same age, it will have a higher cap hit in the 5 mil range.  And yes he is worth that.


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 10:19 PM

after ANOTHER OT loss you gotta think its about time Holland tries to do something to improve this team. They seem to be maxing out at OT losses. 


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 10:42 PM

Trade Jimmy Howard. Give Mrazek the job.


after ANOTHER OT loss you gotta think its about time Holland tries to do something to improve this team.

 

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 10:52 PM

Haven't read the entire thread so someone probably already said this idea but I feel like the biggest move that would help is to acquire a top-4 dman to stabilize the dmen corps.  But yeah, I know, "there is no store." 



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Posted 15 November 2013 - 11:11 PM

What would I do...??? Hmmmm....

"There is no store"... There is no store??? No? Store?? Really? Ever heard of the GRAND RAPIDS GRIFFINS!??? They've got forwards, they've got d-men and they have goalies, they even have coaches! You want overripe prospects? They've got 'em! You want offensive d-men? They have those too!

What would I do..

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 11:13 PM

But hey, super smart move getting Cleary back! Waive all the other guys but keep his lame ass. I am STILL scratching my head about that one. I thought this guy was some kind of genius or something....


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 11:23 PM

What would I do...??? Hmmmm....

"There is no store"... There is no store??? No? Store?? Really? Ever heard of the GRAND RAPIDS GRIFFINS!??? They've got forwards, they've got d-men and they have goalies, they even have coaches! You want overripe prospects? They've got 'em! You want offensive d-men? They have those too!

What would I do..

 

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Edited by Red Wings Addict, 15 November 2013 - 11:23 PM.


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Posted 16 November 2013 - 12:17 AM

i'm just going to say it. It's highly unlikely anything will happen via trade that will impact this team enough by itself to put us over the top due to the salary cap. If the players we have don't start playing better we are not destined for the cup final and sadly we should realize no major change will happen till the off season when the cap hopefully goes up and we shed some contracts.

 

It's that simple, but keep dreaming. Gives us something to do.



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Posted 16 November 2013 - 07:45 AM

Amongst the dmen, I'm honestly not sure if the secondary players can play any better this year (Quincey, Smith, Lashoff, Kindl).  It's just an off to barely average at most type of year for those guys. 

 

:no:

 

And then what also sucks is that they don't even have anyone in GR who can do better.  It just is what it is. 


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Posted 16 November 2013 - 08:00 AM

i'm just going to say it. It's highly unlikely anything will happen via trade that will impact this team enough by itself to put us over the top due to the salary cap. If the players we have don't start playing better we are not destined for the cup final and sadly we should realize no major change will happen till the off season when the cap hopefully goes up and we shed some contracts.

 

It's that simple, but keep dreaming. Gives us something to do.

 

I'd say play the season out, for better or worse...and then in the off-season cut ties with Clearly, Alfie, Berti *g* and hope that the Mule improves or buy him out the goal should be to create as much cap space as possible, figuring out the next core and then go into the offseason prepared to make a big splash (I'm talking Dion Phaneuf/Thomas Vanek like)


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Posted 16 November 2013 - 09:20 AM

When the trade deadline hits, Holland will realize how mediocre we are and use that as an excuse not to acquire anyone. "We're not one player away from the Cup and so I've decided we will ride it out and give our kids good experience."
When the trade deadline hits, Holland will realize how mediocre we are and use that as an excuse not to acquire anyone. "We're not one player away from the Cup and so I've decided we will ride it out and give our kids good experience."
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Posted 16 November 2013 - 09:24 AM

When the trade deadline hits, Holland will realize how mediocre we are and use that as an excuse not to acquire anyone. "We're not one player away from the Cup and so I've decided we will ride it out and give our kids good experience."
When the trade deadline hits, Holland will realize how mediocre we are and use that as an excuse not to acquire anyone. "We're not one player away from the Cup and so I've decided we will ride it out and give our kids good experience."

 

wouldn't be surprised at all. i stopped expecting anything to happen at the trade deadline.. even if we are good i'm sure the price won't be right or we'll like our team. 


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Posted 16 November 2013 - 02:54 PM

I would build a sophisticated robot with the speed, strength, size, and cognitive subroutines necessary to perform superlatively on the ice. It would dominate the opposition and never tire.

 

That's what I would do.

But Holland would have it's fighting subroutine deleted I'm afraid.


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