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#381 Sgt. Angry

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 10:55 PM

Winnipeg played one hell of a game.

This wasn't a case of a bad effort against a bad team, it was more like a kind of bad effort against a team playing like it was Game 7.

As long as we get back to winning in the next game I'm willing to let this one slide.

OK, yeah, you can't be "up" all of the time, although considering the kind of money these guys make, they should be expected to. What gets me is that you'd think that this team would be smart enough to realize when their opponent is in dire straits, and will be coming out to prove a point. This happens regularly  with Wings opponents, and it always seems to catch Detroit completely by surprise


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 10:56 PM

I think some of you guys are over exaggerating BIGTIME. Yeah it was a bad loss but you knew Winnipeg was going to bring it tonight. They HAD to. They'll probablyf****** lose 5 straight now. These losses are going to happen. We now have 8 out of the next 10 at home coming up. Big chance to get some big points, I say Wings win 7 out of the next 10. And God I hope we blow the Jets out at the Joe.



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Posted 04 November 2013 - 10:58 PM

 

Alfredsson is good, but he has nothing to work with.

 

Should have stayed in Ottawa, instead of thinking he could win a Cup with this aging, slow roster.  

 

Then again, he probably figured Sammy would be traded and Cleary would be in Dante's Hell somewhere.  


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 11:01 PM

This wasn't a case of a bad effort against a bad team, it was more like a kind of bad effort against a team playing like it was Game 7.

 

I think it was thoroughly bad because we didn't adjust. If a team is going to play us like it's a Game 7, we need to push back and play the same way - or at least be more careful. We played the whole game the same way. Actually, I'd say we got worse as the game went on.

 

Three turnovers on every shift. An odd-man rush against on every other shift. 47 shots against.

 

Absolutely godawful. No excuse for that.


Should have stayed in Ottawa, instead of thinking he could win a Cup with this aging, slow roster.  

 

Then again, he probably figured Sammy would be traded and Cleary would be in Dante's Hell somewhere.  

 

+1 for the Dante reference.


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 11:01 PM

I think some of you guys are over exaggerating BIGTIME. Yeah it was a bad loss but you knew Winnipeg was going to bring it tonight. They HAD to. They'll probablyf****** lose 5 straight now. These losses are going to happen. We now have 8 out of the next 10 at home coming up. Big chance to get some big points, I say Wings win 7 out of the next 10. And God I hope we blow the Jets out at the Joe.

If you knew the Jests were going to bring it, and I knew they were going to bring it, don't you think the Red Wings should have known they were going to bring it, and mentally prepare accordingly. They treated this game like an unwelcome interruption on their flight home.


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 11:01 PM

 

You mean the Quincey-lead penalty kill?? lol He lead with over 5:00 in PK.

 

datterberg1340 you're a hypocrite for "liking" that statement lol

that's a bit of a reach bud



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Posted 04 November 2013 - 11:03 PM

We could've gone up two points on idle TB and idle Toronto and taken sole possession of first in the Atlantic. I think that's actually what hurts the most about this one, for me.


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 11:04 PM

that's a bit of a reach bud

 

Well he did contribute to it more than any player...but i guess it's not something negative...

 

Besides it was a joke there bud..hence the lol...lol


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 11:05 PM

I watched the game on and off, so never really focused on AA much. How bad was he? I thought the little time I watched him he looked pretty good with the puck, and those goals against while he was on the ice looked like Andersson not picking up his man in the slot, and then for his -2, AA battling against two in the slot by himself with Cleary skating in bent over past Ladd and doing nothing, and Ladd was able to put it in.



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Posted 04 November 2013 - 11:08 PM

If you knew the Jests were going to bring it, and I knew they were going to bring it, don't you think the Red Wings should have known they were going to bring it, and mentally prepare accordingly. They treated this game like an unwelcome interruption on their flight home.

Hey man I don't know what to tell you. I don't play the game, I just watch. I saw them talking about the game on NHL network and had a bad feeling that this will be a loss for the Wings because the Jets were desperate. Wings are that team that brings out the best in other teams man. It's always been like that. The Jets got embarrassed at home by Chicago and that fired them up.



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Posted 04 November 2013 - 11:09 PM

I watched the game on and off, so never really focused on AA much. How bad was he? I thought the little time I watched him he looked pretty good with the puck, and those goals against while he was on the ice looked like Andersson not picking up his man in the slot, and then for his -2, AA battling against two in the slot by himself with Cleary skating in bent over past Ladd and doing nothing, and Ladd was able to put it in.

 

He's got nice control and passing ability when leading the puck up ice but just seemed lost and over-powered in his own end.

 

He should have been taught in peewee not to have two defencemen behind the net.


Edited by Son of a Wing, 04 November 2013 - 11:10 PM.

"The leader must never close the gap between himself and the group. If he does, he is no longer what he must be. He must walk a tightrope between the consent he must win and the control he must exert."
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When asked who won, Babcock said, “Well it doesn’t really matter as long as you don’t lose. It’s like going bear hunting, you take a slow guy with you in case the bear is hungry.”

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 11:11 PM

I watched the game on and off, so never really focused on AA much. How bad was he? I thought the little time I watched him he looked pretty good with the puck, and those goals against while he was on the ice looked like Andersson not picking up his man in the slot, and then for his -2, AA battling against two in the slot by himself with Cleary skating in bent over past Ladd and doing nothing, and Ladd was able to put it in.

 

He didn't look significantly worse than any of our other defensemen, except maybe Kronwall. Actually, considering how hard the Jets came at us, and how horribly we played, I thought he handled himself well. So, he was about what I expected.


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 11:16 PM

i was going to make a post about losing like this to a really bad team...but then i remembered that the wings are a bad team, too.

 

reality bites.



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Posted 04 November 2013 - 11:17 PM

Just think, guys, it could be much worse. We could be Oilers fans, or Sabres fans. At least the Wings are still at the top of what may very well be the toughest division. That's pretty great, right?

 

Trying to look for positives here.


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 11:18 PM

Wings were tired at the end of a long 4 game trip, and the Jets were fired up. I think the refs helped by calling every little thing against the Wings, while letting the Jets get away with a LOT of holding especially against Pavs and Hank. Overall though, 6 out of 8 points is very good.

 

- Weiss has some fantastic plays tonight and it is VERY clear that Cleary is slowing him down. There is absolutely no place for Cleary on this team.

- Kindl or Quincy... I don't know who is worse. Kindl is awful defensively and is always giving the puck away. Quincy does not know how to defend a 1 on 1 play, he just lets the guy come as close as possible to the net to get a good shot off.

- Kronners and Danny D are a fantastic pairing... that goal by Danny D reminds me of Captain Nick... I don't get why Babs does not use him on the 2nd unit rather than Kindl... Danny D has a better shot, is far more accurate, and has a much better hockey sense.

- Howie was fantastic out there tonight.

 

Overall a solid road trip by the Wings, now coming home for a good stretch. I was going to get tickets to the Dallas game, but the Wings have a history of being sluggish in their first games back from a long trip so I will wait until Saturday haha. GO WINGS



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Posted 04 November 2013 - 11:18 PM

After hearing this about the Tigers all season, now I have to endure once again the statement I have grown to hate. "If I told you before this road trip that we'd come back with 6 points you'd be happy" bulls&*t! Is there some league rule that says you have to go in the tank in every final game of a road trip.

And don't forget, kids, we now are facing that wonderful old "first home game after a long road trip" gem on Thursday.


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#397 Z Winged Dangler

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 11:24 PM

Notes from the game:

 

- Getting to see DeKeyser score his 1st career NHL goal, pretty cool.

- Quincey is a complete liability and needs to go making way for Ouellet.

- The Jets played awesome.  A complete TEAM effort that was needed and they showed what kind of hockey they are capable of playing, they just don't do it consistently.

- Cleary is beyond useless garbage.  He better not be a Wing next season or I may lose hope in the future of this organization.

- The Wings got burnt on passes along the boards constantly and the Jets turned uncontested to the net giving them tons of quality scoring chances. 

-  Jimmy played great.  It could have been 8 or 9 to 2 had he not played so good.

- Darren Helm needs more ice time and we need to keep Tootoo.  Get Miller off that line, he's too slow.

- Almqvist was decent with the puck, making simple plays.  Improvements need to be made on D zone coverage for him to play at the NHL level.

- Our 2nd line is ass.  We will not make it out of the 1st round with Cleary in the top 6, maybe top 9….have I mentioned how brutal he is yet?

- Enstrom may have played Smegl in Lord of the Rings.


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 11:30 PM

Wings were tired at the end of a long 4 game trip, and the Jets were fired up. I think the refs helped by calling every little thing against the Wings, while letting the Jets get away with a LOT of holding especially against Pavs and Hank. Overall though, 6 out of 8 points is very good.

 

- Weiss has some fantastic plays tonight and it is VERY clear that Cleary is slowing him down. There is absolutely no place for Cleary on this team.

- Kindl or Quincy... I don't know who is worse. Kindl is awful defensively and is always giving the puck away. Quincy does not know how to defend a 1 on 1 play, he just lets the guy come as close as possible to the net to get a good shot off.

- Kronners and Danny D are a fantastic pairing... that goal by Danny D reminds me of Captain Nick... I don't get why Babs does not use him on the 2nd unit rather than Kindl... Danny D has a better shot, is far more accurate, and has a much better hockey sense.

- Howie was fantastic out there tonight.

 

Overall a solid road trip by the Wings, now coming home for a good stretch. I was going to get tickets to the Dallas game, but the Wings have a history of being sluggish in their first games back from a long trip so I will wait until Saturday haha. GO WINGS

Weiss keeps looking for Cleary but he's too erratically retarded and Alfredsson is losing a step, especially at the end of a road trip.

 

Kindl played good.  Quincey is a giveaway machine and has terrible defensive awareness.

 

DeKeyser was due for his 1st and glad he got it.  So many posts and cross bars.  Funny his 1st career goal would be so much like the ones that Lids got his whole career.  That kid has a very bright future.

 

They play the Jets again in a week.  Let's see what Wings team shows up and what Jets team does too.  Both teams are very bi-polar.


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 11:32 PM

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Audio:  Coach Babcock, Helm, Tootoo, Zetterberg, Kronwall.

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 11:55 PM

Dream lineup without upgrading through trades

Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Bert
Alfredsson-Weisse-Franzen
Nyquist-Andersson-Tatar
Abdelkader-Helm-Cleary





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