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#81 hillbillywingsfan

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 03:43 PM

 

Yes, still in for the cap hit but this clears them up to just send him straight down to GR without waivers again I believe once Ericsson & Smith are back.

but if holland is saying he wont be sent to GR then why was he waived....where does he go then....I have to admit im not very smart on this whole process.


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Posted 06 November 2013 - 03:43 PM

So...would Holland just keep him and try to waive/trade the next guy in line (likely Eaves)?


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Posted 06 November 2013 - 03:44 PM

booooo, now we really lack toughness.

 

 

I loved this guy he was a real character on the ice. Something wings lack in general, Character.

He layed out people and caused scoring chances, sad to see one of our fastest guys gone.

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 03:46 PM

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 03:47 PM

but if holland is saying he wont be sent to GR then why was he waived....where does he go then....I have to admit im not very smart on this whole process.

 

He would stay on the Wings roster until they need to make a move again to clear up cap/roster space but in this case, he just goes through waivers now instead of when the actual move happens.  Very similar to what Emmerton went through right at the start of the season. 



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Posted 06 November 2013 - 03:51 PM

 

He would stay on the Wings roster until they need to make a move again to clear up cap/roster space but in this case, he just goes through waivers now instead of when the actual move happens.  Very similar to what Emmerton went through right at the start of the season. 

so why wouldn't they let him go down to GR to at least play? What is having him not play help?


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Posted 06 November 2013 - 04:02 PM

I really question Holland sometimes...why even re-sign Cleary, I mean really?

 

The Wings brass practice their own form of nepotism, always signing their old buddies over much better and/or more qualified players.

 

It sucks big time, but as we have been shown clear as day over the last few years, that's how it works upstairs with the Wings brass.



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Posted 06 November 2013 - 04:15 PM

 

The Wings brass practice their own form of nepotism, always signing their old buddies over much better and/or more qualified players.

 

It sucks big time, but as we have been shown clear as day over the last few years, that's how it works upstairs with the Wings brass.

 

I believe the phrase is "the devil you know is better than the devil you don't". They feel with our system that's even more important. 

 

I get that way of thinking.  Unfortunately Wings brass just seem to take it to a whole other level.


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Posted 06 November 2013 - 04:51 PM

Cleary isn't that bad, you guys obviously don't know hockey that well.  He WILL be resigned and he DOES play hard and contribute every night.


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Posted 06 November 2013 - 04:52 PM

 

I believe the phrase is "the devil you know is better than the devil you don't". They feel with our system that's even more important. 

 

I get that way of thinking.  Unfortunately Wings brass just seem to take it to a whole other level.

 

Speaking of [D]evils...I still kinda miss Brunner. And I've always been against signing Jagr, but he signed with NJ for, what, 2 million? I would've gladly taken him over Cleary.


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Posted 06 November 2013 - 05:04 PM

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 05:09 PM

I'm kind of surprised it was Tootoo. Sammy next in line for this please. What could it hurt? No one takes him and we are back where we are at. Tootoo has more use than he does at this point.

 

Waiving Samuelsson would (because nobody's going to claim him) provide only $100K in cap relief.


 

Speaking of [D]evils...I still kinda miss Brunner. And I've always been against signing Jagr, but he signed with NJ for, what, 2 million? I would've gladly taken him over Cleary.

 

$2.5m per season. He spurned the Wings' offer because he wanted more money and guaranteed top-six time. Now he's on one of the worst teams in the league, one that is also near-bankrupt and is thus unlikely to improve next season.

 

Too bad for him.



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Posted 06 November 2013 - 05:22 PM

So wait, the reason Emmerton was waived and brought back, and the reason Tootoo was waived and (apparently) coming back, is so they don't have to go through waivers later?  So waivers is a one-time deal, and then players can go up and down at will?

 

Otherwise, what sense does this make?


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Posted 06 November 2013 - 05:41 PM

So wait, the reason Emmerton was waived and brought back, and the reason Tootoo was waived and (apparently) coming back, is so they don't have to go through waivers later?  So waivers is a one-time deal, and then players can go up and down at will?

 

Otherwise, what sense does this make?

 

Not a one-time deal. If 30 days pass or they play 10 games after they are waived, then they are eligible for waivers again.

 

It's always been this way.  The only difference is they eliminated the re-entry waivers in the most recent CBA.


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Posted 06 November 2013 - 05:41 PM

 
I'm pretty certain that re-entry waivers were done away with in the new CBA.


Yes re-entry waivers should be gone. I was referring to if we sent him back down to grr once he came back up to the NHL. If we wanted to send him down once more, that's where I was confused if he would be exempt from passing waivers again and technically on a two way contract from that point on.

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 05:43 PM

Bottom-line it allows more flexibility under the cap by allowing players to be sent down and called up at will until they hit that mark.


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Posted 06 November 2013 - 05:47 PM

$2.5m per season. He spurned the Wings' offer because he wanted more money and guaranteed top-six time. Now he's on one of the worst teams in the league, one that is also near-bankrupt and is thus unlikely to improve next season.

 

Too bad for him.

 

Yes, I know Brunner's story. And I'm well aware of NJ's struggles. (I'm ten minutes away from Trenton.) Doesn't mean I can't miss Brunner.


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Posted 06 November 2013 - 05:57 PM

So wait, the reason Emmerton was waived and brought back, and the reason Tootoo was waived and (apparently) coming back, is so they don't have to go through waivers later?  So waivers is a one-time deal, and then players can go up and down at will?
 
Otherwise, what sense does this make?

 
I'm not sure if this has been covered already but Khan makes it sound like if Tootoo clears he won't be sent to GR now because they don't need to clear a spot until the 15th when Ericsson comes off LTIR.
 

So when Holland said he won't be sent to Grand Rapids, he really meant he won't be sent yet.
 

If Tootoo, 30, is not claimed, the Red Wings have the option of assigning him to the Grand Rapids Griffins. But general manager Ken Holland said they won't send him down on Thursday. They wouldn't need to make a move until defenseman Jonathan Ericsson comes off long-term injured reserve on Nov. 15.
If and when Tootoo is assigned to Grand Rapids, the Red Wings would receive only $925,000 in cap relief

 
http://www.mlive.com...ck_waiving.html



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Posted 06 November 2013 - 06:10 PM

Cleary isn't that bad, you guys obviously don't know hockey that well.  He WILL be resigned and he DOES play hard and contribute every night.


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Posted 06 November 2013 - 06:11 PM

I don't expect Tootoo to clear.  If he does I guess it means I suck at evaluating hockey players because when he plays he looks pretty valuable to me.







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